Re: for all of you hardcore antivacciners out there...

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Cheryl, Go and get a metals test. There are other metals taht were in his vaccines that can also be neurotoxic.. The tests are not invasive-so what the heck. He could also have heavy metals fromother sources and having difficulty eliminating them. Just my simple opinion. maurineCheryl Lowrance wrote: Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt son never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about shooting my kids

up with vaccines...I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on. Opinions? Comments?Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune dysfunction. I'm definitely in the "no vaccine" camp so please, no e- mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced long

ago.Cheryl

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When you say you "looked them up". Where did you get that information

from?

Was it put out by the vaccine manufacturer perchance?

Are you really just going to take their word for it?

You think they are that trust worthy?

There have recently been some independent groups getting a hold of

"mercury free" vaccines and having them tested at independent labs.

And guess what? The 4 that they tested were all chock full of mercury.

So when you say "None of my son's shots contained mercury"

I ask you "How do you KNOW that?" Did you get a sample on the day they

were injected and take it to an independent lab for testing?

Because that's the only way I would feel confident to KNOW. And even

then I'd want to go into the lab and follow the sample around and watch

the whole testing process myself.

"Poisoning People for Profit" - Its big business, and it pays really

well. Poison drugs, poison food, poison vaccine, poison toys, poison

cosmetics, poison water, poison land, poison ocean, poison air, it just

goes on and on. There is no economic incentive to stop besides the

occasional successful law suit, which is why they even lobby to have

laws changed to protect them. Then its all pure profit.

So should you do a metals test? Yes, absolutely.

Just be careful, because even metals tests are not always accurate.

Mercury quickly leaves your blood and gets deep into cells. Its tricky

to test for, and if your not able to excrete it properly (like many ASD

kids) then it won't show up directly on a hair test.

Get a porhyrins test done. Do a hair test and use Cutlers counting

rules to see if you have mineral derangement. Don't do a challenge

test.

Cheers

Cheryl Lowrance wrote:

Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt

son

never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about

shooting my kids up with vaccines...

I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:

None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not

even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals

test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't

chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've

been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on.

Opinions? Comments?

Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was

caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was

born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his

already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I

don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune

dysfunction. I'm definitely in the "no vaccine" camp so please, no e-

mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced

long ago.

Cheryl

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Hey Cheryl--haven't been on list for a while but this my two cents--probably some will disagree. As Amy Yasko proves in many of the urine toxic metal reports that she has in her book, when autistic children detox whether it be by fighting viruses, bacteria, etc, they do, in fact, drop metals. The porphyrin (watch spelling) test is supposed to show evidence of metal toxicity, however, I have seen parents post their NT children's poryphyrin tests and sometimes the NTs appear to be just as toxic as the affected child. I'm not really sold on the porphyrin test--I personally think it's safe to assume that your child is metal toxic because (again this is my opinion) autistic children have impaired detoxification with everything they come in contact with (due to their damaged immune systems and some

genetic predisposition) whether it be metals, pesticides, etc. Stan's son seemed to do great without chelation and I think there are those that can get away without doing any sort of chelation and still achieve recovery by addressing viruses, etc. B12 may be sufficient to help methylate and detox. I think my son will need some sort of chelation but his gut is in bad shape and he does not take supplements well so I'm trying to do different methods (we just bought a sauna and Luke is starting to sweat for the first time in months!!!!) BTW, I saw Goldberg last week and we actually loved him! Didn't mention the infrared sauna, of course. I agree with you about vax's not being the sole reason for autism but I keep asking myself, why so many children born with such fragile immune systems?? I also have heard of autistic children having clear porphyrin tests. Basically (as many I'm

sure will disagree), I think the test is pointless. I think their is a number on there that is supposed to reflect brain inflammation or stress or something (is it neopterin??? hopefully a smarter person will chime in!) but only DANs will address that. HTH Beth

Subject: for all of you hardcore antivacciners out there...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, May 1, 2008, 10:36 PM

Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt son never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about shooting my kids up with vaccines...I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on. Opinions? Comments?Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I don't doubt that they've played some kind of

role in his immune dysfunction. I'm definitely in the "no vaccine" camp so please, no e- mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced long ago.Cheryl

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> When you say you " looked them up " . Where did you get that

> information from?

>

NVIC/909shot Merc calc.

>

>

> Was it put out by the vaccine manufacturer perchance?

>

Not to my knowledge. I'm guessing it was put out by NIVIC?

>

>

> You think they are that trust worthy?

>

Of course not.

>

> I ask you " How do you KNOW that? " Did you get a sample on the day

> they were injected and take it to an independent lab for testing?

>

Fair question and all I can say to that is I *don't* know. Isn't

that the true problem that *everyone* has with vaccines? What's

*really* in there?

>

> So should you do a metals test? Yes, absolutely.

>

> Just be careful, because even metals tests are not always

> accurate. Mercury quickly leaves your blood and gets deep into

> cells. Its tricky to test for, and if your not able to excrete it

> properly (like many ASD kids) then it won't show up directly on a

> hair test.

>

> Get a porhyrins test done. Do a hair test and use Cutlers counting

> rules to see if you have mineral derangement. Don't do a challenge

> test.

>

Oh, I definitely am not likely to do a challenge test. If I have to

chelate, I have to find another doc that will do it with me. I'll be

getting the porphyrins test for sure, though. I'm not even planning

on wasting my time with a hair test.

Thanks for the input.

Cheryl

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>

> Cheers

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>

>

> Cheryl Lowrance wrote:

>

>> Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt son

>> never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about

>> shooting my kids up with vaccines...

>>

>> I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:

>> None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not

>> even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals

>> test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't

>> chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've

>> been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on.

>> Opinions? Comments?

>>

>> Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was

>> caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was

>> born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his

>> already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I

>> don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune

>> dysfunction. I'm definitely in the " no vaccine " camp so please, no e-

>> mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced

>> long ago.

>>

>> Cheryl

>>

>>

>

>

>

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This is pretty much Dr. G's take on it.  Clean up the immune system and metals will come out on their own.  We've been doing so much work with his immune system for so long that I'm not sure what a porphyrins test would say!  I know Dr. G wouldn't be happy about it but seriously, I'm really curious.  It doesn't help that I just read Evidence of Harm for the first time (I know, bad mom!  It's been sitting around collecting dust until recently).  That's what really got me all fired up.  I don't know what I would do with the results (since we are patients of Dr. G) so right now it's just another test I'm thinking of getting done just to "see".  Since Labcorp is doing them now it shouldn't be more than a few bucks so I'm probably going to do it.CherylHey Cheryl--haven't been on list for a while but this my two cents--probably some will disagree.  As Amy Yasko proves in many of the urine toxic metal reports that she has in her book, when autistic children detox whether it be by fighting viruses, bacteria, etc, they do, in fact, drop metals.  The porphyrin (watch spelling) test is supposed to show evidence of metal toxicity, however, I have seen parents post their NT children's poryphyrin tests and sometimes the NTs appear to be just as toxic as the affected child.  I'm not really sold on the porphyrin test--I personally think it's safe to assume that your child is metal toxic because (again this is my opinion) autistic children have impaired detoxification with everything they come in contact with (due to their damaged immune systems and some genetic predisposition) whether it be metals, pesticides, etc.  Stan's son seemed to do great without chelation and I think there are those that can get away without doing any sort of chelation and still achieve recovery by addressing viruses, etc. B12 may be sufficient to help methylate and detox.  I think my son will need some sort of chelation but his gut is in bad shape and he does not take supplements well so I'm trying to do different methods (we just bought a sauna and Luke is starting to sweat for the first time in months!!!!)  BTW, I saw Goldberg last week and we actually loved him!  Didn't mention the infrared sauna, of course.  I agree with you about vax's not being the sole reason for autism but I keep asking myself, why so many children born with such fragile immune systems?? I also have heard of autistic children having clear porphyrin tests.  Basically (as many I'm sure will disagree), I think the test is pointless.  I think their is a number on there that is supposed to reflect brain inflammation or stress or something (is it neopterin??? hopefully a smarter person will chime in!) but only DANs will address that. HTH  Beth--- On Thu, 5/1/08, Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowranceca (DOT) rr.com> wrote:From: Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowranceca (DOT) rr.com>Subject: for all of you hardcore antivacciners out there...To: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, May 1, 2008, 10:36 PMOkay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt son never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about shooting my kids up with vaccines...I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on. Opinions? Comments?Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune dysfunction. I'm definitely in the "no vaccine" camp so please, no e- mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced long ago.CherylBe a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Thanks--I can't even imagine what he would say!!!!!!!!!!!> BTW, I saw Goldberg last week and we actually loved him! Didn't > mention the infrared sauna, of course.

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You're secret's safe with me!

Cheryl

> BTW, I saw Goldberg last week and we actually loved him! Didn't

> mention the infrared sauna, of course.

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I would also do it as well. We did it for my unvacinated child and his

test turned out good (according to his DAN! best one he's ever seen)

but we also did another one there as well for Oxidative Stress and he

had very high markers in that area and I never suspected my child for

being a viral kid.

Quoting Maurine Meleck :

> Cheryl, Go and get a metals test. There are other metals taht were

> in his vaccines that can also be neurotoxic.. The tests are not

> invasive-so what the heck.

> He could also have heavy metals fromother sources and having

> difficulty eliminating them.

> Just my simple opinion.

> maurine

>

> Cheryl Lowrance wrote:

> Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt son

> never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about

> shooting my kids up with vaccines...

>

> I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:

> None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not

> even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals

> test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't

> chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've

> been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on.

> Opinions? Comments?

>

> Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was

> caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was

> born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his

> already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I

> don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune

> dysfunction. I'm definitely in the " no vaccine " camp so please, no e-

> mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced

> long ago.

>

> Cheryl

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Cheryl..perhaps this will help explain how children with ASD are not necessarily exposed to Toxic metals but have a malfunctioning metallothionein and actually can have more then just toxic levels of Mercury. Its about their bodies inability to maintain homeostasis or the metal in their body. So they have scewed level. The trigger for the malfunction can be indeed many causes not just vaccines but can also include vaccines with thing other then just Mercury. http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/health_autism2.html#2 http://www.supernutrient.com/Autism/index.php I won my own little battle today..I convinced my neurologist to Run a full metal panel as well as a million other things she might be deficient in. She said no

quite a few times but after giving her the info I just sent you the link for..she finally said yes. I was SOOOO happy She finally caved and did it for me. She had originally only ordered a lead test and that it. Best of all this will be covered by my insurance and now I can take the results to the DAN doc. in a few weeks when I get the levels back..One less expense hopefully.Laureen Forman wrote: I would also do it as well. We did it for my unvacinated child and his

test turned out good (according to his DAN! best one he's ever seen) but we also did another one there as well for Oxidative Stress and he had very high markers in that area and I never suspected my child for being a viral kid.Quoting Maurine Meleck <maurine_meleck>:> Cheryl, Go and get a metals test. There are other metals taht were > in his vaccines that can also be neurotoxic.. The tests are not > invasive-so what the heck.> He could also have heavy metals fromother sources and having > difficulty eliminating them.> Just my simple opinion.> maurine>> Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowranceca (DOT) rr.com> wrote:> Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt son> never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about>

shooting my kids up with vaccines...>> I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:> None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not> even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals> test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't> chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've> been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on.> Opinions? Comments?>> Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was> caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was> born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his> already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I> don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune> dysfunction. I'm definitely in the "no vaccine" camp so please, no e->

mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced> long ago.>> Cheryl>>>>>>> ---------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. Deo Productions: Model ManagementContact www.sAngels.com * www.Deo.com APRIL 2ND IS NATIONAL AUTISM DAY! APRIL IS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH. MY BLOG : http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view & friendID=6997241 & blogID=373303106

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I think he would go easier on a sauna than on HBOT s I cannot see how

it could hurt a kid wheras he has an argument against HBOT which is

the same one for NOT doing any kind of ozone therapy...I actually

would ask him just to make sure it isn't UNSAFE in his opion even if

he will prbably think it is useless. He wasn't neutral on HBOT when

my friends kid became his patient...same take as on chelating on an

injured gut basically...don't go moving oxygen around a metals toxic

kid, can't control where it goes and what it moves around with it and

the effects if there are any are temporary. Black cup o coffee

theory, basically, which means I can get our cery constipated kid to

have a bm if I give him a cup of cofee or two...and it will do

NOTHING to address the underlying reason his bowels are not working

(clostridia in our case, just confirmed)long term...and there are

probably a dozen reasons why a 3 yo should not drink two strong cups

o coffee a day even if there is a laxative effect that seems like

such a superficial positive....well, there you go. I think if you

are seeing G and doing sauna I would mention it just to make sure it

cannot be BAD with any of the drugs he is on etc...if it is just a

waste of time or money in his opion...disagree and waste away. Just

make sure there is no negative to it that you might not have

considered or no about. As for chelating...we have that debate in

our house too...we are doing Pfeiffer and the next round of stuff is

supposed to really get the metals moving out of his repaired immune

system. They say they want his zinc levels etc to be in a certain

place before they begin...so SLOW. Diet changes have had the biggest

impact in this house, so far...and are also the trickiest to get on

board...I have heard there was a mom on this list who did the Andy

Cutler protocal with great success....

> >

> > Subject: for all of you hardcore antivacciners out

> > there...

> > To: mb12 valtrex

> > Date: Thursday, May 1, 2008, 10:36 PM

> >

> > Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt

son

> > never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about

> > shooting my kids up with vaccines...

> >

> > I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:

> > None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up -

not

> > even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a

metals

> > test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc

won't

> > chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've

> > been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on.

> > Opinions? Comments?

> >

> > Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was

> > caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was

> > born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at

his

> > already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I

> > don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune

> > dysfunction. I'm definitely in the " no vaccine " camp so please,

no e-

> > mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was

convinced

> > long ago.

> >

> > Cheryl

> >

> >

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo!

Mobile.

> > Try it now.

> >

> >

>

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Cheryl,

I never thought vaccines affected . well, I shouldn't say that.

He did get fussy. but I don't think they contributed to his autism.

and the labs pretty much support that. He has " discrete evidence of

mercury toxicity " ...not a big deal at all. very much on the back

burner for us. However, I was surprised that his labs indicated that

he is high in arsenic. I didn't realize this until his DAN! finally

saw the results at our last appointment. She thought it might be from

arsenic in chicken feed. So, you never know what you might find

Kari

>

> Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt son

> never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about

> shooting my kids up with vaccines...

>

> I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:

> None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not

> even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals

> test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't

> chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've

> been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on.

> Opinions? Comments?

>

> Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was

> caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was

> born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his

> already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I

> don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune

> dysfunction. I'm definitely in the " no vaccine " camp so please, no e-

> mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced

> long ago.

>

> Cheryl

>

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Bradstreet talks about poryph levels in ASD versus NT kids in his latest

online DAN presentation (2007). Apparently they found NO DIFFERENCE in

levels fwiw.

natasa x

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My son did not have any mercury in his vaccines either. Although some

of the vaccines were made using mercury but the end amount doesnt

have to be listed as an ingredient if its not used as a

preservative.I think his immune sytem was hurt by them also. I did a

hair test by doctors data called hair elements..(not hair toxic

metals). He showed extremely low levels of mercury but high in some

other things. Going by Andy Cutlers hair test counting rules my son

showed as mercury toxic. Many autistic children dont show mercury in

hair as it binds inside the body and doesnt get excreted... thats the

whole problem. We decided to try a few real low dose chelation rounds

and after his 4th round did a urine test. Low and behold, there was

mercury and quite a bit.Especially being we were only giving a total

of 53 mg over a 3 day period. Mercury is in our enviorment. Thats why

fish are getting higher and higher amounts. Well so are we. And some

children dont have systems that can filter it out as well as

others.Thats my take on it anyways. I would say do a hair test if you

think it may be an issue. Mercury binds to tissues( including brain )

and doesnt show up in blood, urine or feces for very long.. not even

a month. Same with lead..leadgets absorbed into bones and brain. They

still test childrens blood levels though. It only tests for resent

exposure. If my son was affected by a high amount of lead ingested 2

months ago he would test ok. ughhhh Hope this helps

,.I

>

> Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt

son

> never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about

> shooting my kids up with vaccines...

>

> I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:

> None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up -

not

> even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a

metals

> test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc

won't

> chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've

> been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on.

> Opinions? Comments?

>

> Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was

> caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He

was

> born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at

his

> already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I

> don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune

> dysfunction. I'm definitely in the " no vaccine " camp so please, no

e-

> mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was

convinced

> long ago.

>

> Cheryl

>

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I am there also Cheryl"l.largey" wrote: My son did not have any mercury in his vaccines either. Although some of the vaccines were made using mercury but the end amount doesnt have to be listed as an ingredient if its not used as a preservative.I think his immune sytem was hurt by them also. I did a hair test by doctors data called hair elements..(not hair toxic metals). He showed extremely low levels of mercury but high in some other things. Going by Andy Cutlers hair test counting rules

my son showed as mercury toxic. Many autistic children dont show mercury in hair as it binds inside the body and doesnt get excreted... thats the whole problem. We decided to try a few real low dose chelation rounds and after his 4th round did a urine test. Low and behold, there was mercury and quite a bit.Especially being we were only giving a total of 53 mg over a 3 day period. Mercury is in our enviorment. Thats why fish are getting higher and higher amounts. Well so are we. And some children dont have systems that can filter it out as well as others.Thats my take on it anyways. I would say do a hair test if you think it may be an issue. Mercury binds to tissues( including brain ) and doesnt show up in blood, urine or feces for very long.. not even a month. Same with lead..leadgets absorbed into bones and brain. They still test childrens blood levels though. It only tests for resent exposure. If my son was affected

by a high amount of lead ingested 2 months ago he would test ok. ughhhh Hope this helps,.I >> Okay, I stopped vaccinating my asd child when he was 2 and my nt son > never got a single shot so let's not start thinking I'm all about > shooting my kids up with vaccines...> > I have no intention of starting them again but I have a question:> None of my son's shots contained mercury (yes, I looked them up - not > even trace amounts). Does it make sense for me to still do a metals > test? I've been thinking about getting one even though our doc won't > chelate. I'm curious about it, though so I thought I'd ask. I've > been thinking about getting one just to see what's going on. > Opinions? Comments?>

> Just so we're clear, although I've never believed my son's asd was > caused by vax, I don't think they've helped him any at all. He was > born with a poor immune system and each was just another stab at his > already fragile system so while he never got mercury from them, I > don't doubt that they've played some kind of role in his immune > dysfunction. I'm definitely in the "no vaccine" camp so please, no e- > mails trying to convince me to never vaccinate again, I was convinced > long ago.> > Cheryl>

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