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I am married, for 6 years. Eli is my 3rd (and last). Aurora is almost 6, and Emma is almost 4. They are great big sisters. I am a SAHM, and spent most of my pregnancy on bedrest due to pre-term labor. We just got back from PT, and they want Eli to start coming 2x a week. Yuck! Its such a bad drive down there. Too much traffic! J <lickjohnson@...> wrote:

Crissy,Yes, I totally agree. Way too much in common. Are you married? Is Eli your first child? Are you a working or stay-at-home mom? So many questions I have for you now!=)> > I honestly think one of the best things we can do as> > parents of banded children is to show them off. By> > showing them off, in a small scale, we will build> > awareness out there about plagio/tort and hopefully> > help another parent, and so on and so on (I sound like> > that 70s

shampoo commercial!). > > > > It might seem like a small thing and not really doing> > anything, but ask yourself, how many people ask you> > about the helmet. And who do you go to first when you> > have a problem -- another parent. Way before you talk> > to your pediatrician about it. > > > > I have already had 2 people ask, in addition to those> > at daycare who have asked the teachers, about my son's> > helmet. Now, if one of those parents has a friend who> > is a new parent talking about the problems their child> > is having -- they just might remember our situation> > and someone talking about a helmet. Am I making sense?> > > > > > So show your children off proudly! Plus, it might help> > with the stigma that seems to be attached to the> > helmet.> > --- usviteacher <usviteacher@h...>

wrote:> > > > > Hello..your families story sounds just like> > > mines..Plagio..was noted > > > in DS charts from early-on..Pedi never discussed it> > > with me..months > > > and months went by..and of course..I would ask PEDI> > > about the shape of > > > DS head..and I got the "it will round out..when the> > > baby starts > > > sitting and crawling"..it did not!> > > > > > Now, at 9 1/2 months..Andres received his Hanger> > > Helmet (been wearing > > > it for almost 2 weeks now) after..I told the PEDI> > > that I need a RE: to > > > find out whats going on with Andres head! It brings> > > tears to my eyes > > > to know that if Andres's PEDI referred us to see the> > > specalist much > > > earlier..reposition would of probably

worked..or> > > Andres would of had > > > to wear a Helmet..for a much shorter time..and> > > would of probably > > > gotten much better results!> > > > > > What can we do as parents?> > > > > > Hazel> > > > > > Andres.. 9 1/2 months, Hanger Helmet ( almost 2> > > weeks), Southern, CA> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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I am married, for 6 years. Eli is my 3rd (and last). Aurora is almost 6, and Emma is almost 4. They are great big sisters. I am a SAHM, and spent most of my pregnancy on bedrest due to pre-term labor. We just got back from PT, and they want Eli to start coming 2x a week. Yuck! Its such a bad drive down there. Too much traffic! J <lickjohnson@...> wrote:

Crissy,Yes, I totally agree. Way too much in common. Are you married? Is Eli your first child? Are you a working or stay-at-home mom? So many questions I have for you now!=)> > I honestly think one of the best things we can do as> > parents of banded children is to show them off. By> > showing them off, in a small scale, we will build> > awareness out there about plagio/tort and hopefully> > help another parent, and so on and so on (I sound like> > that 70s

shampoo commercial!). > > > > It might seem like a small thing and not really doing> > anything, but ask yourself, how many people ask you> > about the helmet. And who do you go to first when you> > have a problem -- another parent. Way before you talk> > to your pediatrician about it. > > > > I have already had 2 people ask, in addition to those> > at daycare who have asked the teachers, about my son's> > helmet. Now, if one of those parents has a friend who> > is a new parent talking about the problems their child> > is having -- they just might remember our situation> > and someone talking about a helmet. Am I making sense?> > > > > > So show your children off proudly! Plus, it might help> > with the stigma that seems to be attached to the> > helmet.> > --- usviteacher <usviteacher@h...>

wrote:> > > > > Hello..your families story sounds just like> > > mines..Plagio..was noted > > > in DS charts from early-on..Pedi never discussed it> > > with me..months > > > and months went by..and of course..I would ask PEDI> > > about the shape of > > > DS head..and I got the "it will round out..when the> > > baby starts > > > sitting and crawling"..it did not!> > > > > > Now, at 9 1/2 months..Andres received his Hanger> > > Helmet (been wearing > > > it for almost 2 weeks now) after..I told the PEDI> > > that I need a RE: to > > > find out whats going on with Andres head! It brings> > > tears to my eyes > > > to know that if Andres's PEDI referred us to see the> > > specalist much > > > earlier..reposition would of probably

worked..or> > > Andres would of had > > > to wear a Helmet..for a much shorter time..and> > > would of probably > > > gotten much better results!> > > > > > What can we do as parents?> > > > > > Hazel> > > > > > Andres.. 9 1/2 months, Hanger Helmet ( almost 2> > > weeks), Southern, CA> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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Hi ! I'm glad you found this group. You'll probably find that

many of us share your frustrations with the whole process. It is

frustrating. The whole staring issue is actually what drew me to

join this group. My son got his helmet 7wks ago and I wasn't worried

about what people thought of it until we started going places with it

on. People can really be nosey! I've gotten more comfortable with

it now, but it really really bothered me at first. I've had the same

person stop me twice in the grocery store, then follow me out to my

van to ask about it, people stopping me in full stride to ask about

it, laughing...it drives me nuts! People need to mind their own

business a little more I think. But, I told myself that every person

I take the time to explain it to will be one more person who won't

have to ask the next person and might not stare as much in the

future. The greater lengths they go to to get my attention, the

stronger the language/more drama I use to explain it. The woman who

followed me out to my van got the " he had a deformity and the helmet

is supposed to fix it " answer. The more polite people get " he had a

flat spot and the helmet is reshaping his head " answer! Hang in

there! It sounds like he's adjusting to it well and it will all be

worth it in the end!

*9mo*tort resolved*lft plagio*STARband 7wks

Conner *2yrs

NC USA

>

> Hi my name is and I just joined this group yesterday so I am a

> little unsure of how it works.. I have an 8 month old son Gavin who

was

> diagnosed with plagiocephly around 3 months. The doctors assured us

it

> would fix itself once he started sitting up, rolling etc...well it

> didn't. Around 5 months I asked to see a specialist at Dornbecker

> Children's hospital in Portland, Oregon. The specialist said if she

were

> me should would wait another 6 weeks to see if it improved on its

own.

> So we left and I began thinking if I wanted anything done about

this I

> was going to have to take charge. It was almost like they didn't

want to

> hassle with it. I called back and told them I was going ahead with

the

> helmet. So we made a appointment for the scan at Hanger. We had the

scan

> done on a Friday and the helmet was supposed to be done in 2 weeks,

so

> when 2 and ½ weeks went by and I hadn't heard anything I decided to

> call. The receptionist told he that the she didn't know what was

going

> on with the helmet and she would have to call me back. So the next

day

> she called to tell me that they were holding off to hear if the

> insurance was going to cover the helmet. I was so angry, at the

initial

> scan I told the man that I was paying for the helmet wether the

> insurance covered it or not! I feel like since I am a younger mother

> they maybe thought I wouldn't pay for it or something. So almost 3

weeks

> later they were just sending the scan to have the helmet made. Last

> Friday more than a month after the first appointment we got the call

> that the helmet was finally in. Gavin was fitted and he made a few

> adjustments but he seemed to tolerate it fairly well, he even fell

> asleep with it on in the car on the ride home. So today is day 6

and he

> just slept with the helmet on all night for the first time, he did

ok,

> only waking once. I am having a way harder time than I think he is.

I

> feel awful when he gets really upset and I can tell he is frustrated

> with this giant plastic thing on his head. I hate not being able to

kiss

> his head and snuggle with him without fear of a black eye. I know I

> should care what other people say or the stares but it is way harder

> than I expected. People can be so rude! I was wonder if anyone could

> tell me how they clean their helmet? I was told to use alcohol and

water

> but it seems that the area of the helmet that touches his forehead

is

> stinky and that doesn't seem to help. Also it seems that his helmet

sits

> so low on his face that he can barely see. He has to tip his head

back

> just to look at things. I was thinking of asking to have it trimmed

at

> our check up but I don't even know if that is possible. I'm sorry

this

> post is so long and thanks to anyone who spent the time to read

it...I

> am feeling very alone and a bit helpless. I'm glad I found this

group.

>

>

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Hi -

Welcome. I totally understand your frustration - good for you for

taking charge of the situation! I would be concerned with the 4 week

delay between cast and fitting as well, 2 weeks should be the limit

because younger babies grow so fast that a month can make a big

difference in the head shape and the helmet might not fit correctly.

However, it doesn't sound like you are overly concerned about the

fit, aside from it coming down low on his forehead. Are you

comfortable with the way it is fitting overall? If it's not too

tight or leaving red marks, hopefully it is fine.

I looked at Gavin's pictures (very cute!) and I would say his band

comes down as far as my son's band does (you can see pictures of him

under Jake W. in Our Plagio Babies/J to compare). Does he have

significant forehead bulging? If so, it's important that the band

covers the entire forehead all the way down, just over the brow line

to hold the prominent side in place. I mentioned it to my therapist

at our initial fitting as well, but he didn't shave any of it away

and my son has been fine with it (he sometimes almost falls over

looking all the way up at planes in the sky, but generally, he's

fine).

Strangers are sometimes hard to deal with, but it does get better as

time goes by. I don't notice people staring very much because I'm

usually in my own little world, and sometimes they even catch me off

guard and I have to think, " wait, are they talking to me? oh right,

the helmet, " because I am just so used to him wearing it. In the

end, you're doing what's best for your son, and as long as you know

that, who cares what other people have to say?

Hang in there and good luck!

Jake-20m (tort resolved/rt plagio/DOCBand 15 weeks)

Jordan-4

>

> Hi my name is and I just joined this group yesterday so I am

a

> little unsure of how it works.. I have an 8 month old son Gavin

who was

> diagnosed with plagiocephly around 3 months. The doctors assured

us it

> would fix itself once he started sitting up, rolling etc...well it

> didn't. Around 5 months I asked to see a specialist at Dornbecker

> Children's hospital in Portland, Oregon. The specialist said if

she were

> me should would wait another 6 weeks to see if it improved on its

own.

> So we left and I began thinking if I wanted anything done about

this I

> was going to have to take charge. It was almost like they didn't

want to

> hassle with it. I called back and told them I was going ahead with

the

> helmet. So we made a appointment for the scan at Hanger. We had

the scan

> done on a Friday and the helmet was supposed to be done in 2

weeks, so

> when 2 and ½ weeks went by and I hadn't heard anything I decided to

> call. The receptionist told he that the she didn't know what was

going

> on with the helmet and she would have to call me back. So the next

day

> she called to tell me that they were holding off to hear if the

> insurance was going to cover the helmet. I was so angry, at the

initial

> scan I told the man that I was paying for the helmet wether the

> insurance covered it or not! I feel like since I am a younger

mother

> they maybe thought I wouldn't pay for it or something. So almost 3

weeks

> later they were just sending the scan to have the helmet made. Last

> Friday more than a month after the first appointment we got the

call

> that the helmet was finally in. Gavin was fitted and he made a few

> adjustments but he seemed to tolerate it fairly well, he even fell

> asleep with it on in the car on the ride home. So today is day 6

and he

> just slept with the helmet on all night for the first time, he did

ok,

> only waking once. I am having a way harder time than I think he

is. I

> feel awful when he gets really upset and I can tell he is

frustrated

> with this giant plastic thing on his head. I hate not being able

to kiss

> his head and snuggle with him without fear of a black eye. I know I

> should care what other people say or the stares but it is way

harder

> than I expected. People can be so rude! I was wonder if anyone

could

> tell me how they clean their helmet? I was told to use alcohol and

water

> but it seems that the area of the helmet that touches his forehead

is

> stinky and that doesn't seem to help. Also it seems that his

helmet sits

> so low on his face that he can barely see. He has to tip his head

back

> just to look at things. I was thinking of asking to have it

trimmed at

> our check up but I don't even know if that is possible. I'm sorry

this

> post is so long and thanks to anyone who spent the time to read

it...I

> am feeling very alone and a bit helpless. I'm glad I found this

group.

>

>

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[sPAM]Re: Re: New to the group..

Hello ,

I thought I was reading my mind when I read your message. :)

I'm so happy you found this support group, it helped me so much from the beginning.

About the stare outside, I put stickers on his helmet "staring is rude". I couldn't help it, after 3 weeks I couldn't stand it anymore & got tired of explaning what I consider my business, not everybody's business at the store... :)

I washed the helmet once with shower gel, it was way to stinky for me even when we clean it twice a day with alcool. The orthotist didn't notice anything, to me it is just plastic & foam so I thought that was ok to do it...

I also use the toodler shampoo "burst of watermelon" from l'Oreal Kids, it's really helping too. (my orthotist told me to use that shampoo).

Sorry for the spelling mistake, I'm french & still learning English...

I just want you to know that you are not alone in this.

You will see results really soon & that helps a lot too to get use with the idea of your baby wearing a helmet.

Bye-bye,

Karine.

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Hi -

Blisters are definitely not good. I would maybe give them one chance

to fix/adjust the helmet, and if it is causing major red spots or

still seems too tight, I would demand for them to make a new one

(from a new cast). I really think the culprit is waiting 4 weeks for

the helmet to be made. That's really inexcusable on their part.

I don't think I've seen a Hanger band that opens in the back before.

My son's opens on the right, the side of his flat spot. At Cranial

Tech, they make the adjustments by visually assessing the change in

his head (they compare it to his beginning head mold) and measuring

the circumference of his head to see how much it's grown. I think

some other orthos may scan at every visit. Generally though they

just shave a little at a time, so that the head has room to grow in

that area (they should only shave in the area of the flat spots) and

younger babies that grow fast might have to go in sooner for another

adjustment if the band gets too snug before the next scheduled

appointment.

Please let us know what the ortho says today. Good luck!

Jake-20m (tort resolved/rt plagio/DOCBand 15 weeks)

Jordan-4

> > >

> > > Hi my name is and I just joined this group yesterday so

I am

> > a

> > > little unsure of how it works.. I have an 8 month old son Gavin

> > who was

> > > diagnosed with plagiocephly around 3 months. The doctors

assured

> > us it

> > > would fix itself once he started sitting up, rolling

etc...well it

> > > didn't. Around 5 months I asked to see a specialist at

Dornbecker

> > > Children's hospital in Portland, Oregon. The specialist said if

> > she were

> > > me should would wait another 6 weeks to see if it improved on

its

> > own.

> > > So we left and I began thinking if I wanted anything done about

> > this I

> > > was going to have to take charge. It was almost like they

didn't

> > want to

> > > hassle with it. I called back and told them I was going ahead

with

> > the

> > > helmet. So we made a appointment for the scan at Hanger. We had

> > the scan

> > > done on a Friday and the helmet was supposed to be done in 2

> > weeks, so

> > > when 2 and ½ weeks went by and I hadn't heard anything I

decided

> to

> > > call. The receptionist told he that the she didn't know what

was

> > going

> > > on with the helmet and she would have to call me back. So the

next

> > day

> > > she called to tell me that they were holding off to hear if the

> > > insurance was going to cover the helmet. I was so angry, at the

> > initial

> > > scan I told the man that I was paying for the helmet wether the

> > > insurance covered it or not! I feel like since I am a younger

> > mother

> > > they maybe thought I wouldn't pay for it or something. So

almost 3

> > weeks

> > > later they were just sending the scan to have the helmet made.

Last

> > > Friday more than a month after the first appointment we got the

> > call

> > > that the helmet was finally in. Gavin was fitted and he made a

few

> > > adjustments but he seemed to tolerate it fairly well, he even

fell

> > > asleep with it on in the car on the ride home. So today is day

6

> > and he

> > > just slept with the helmet on all night for the first time, he

did

> > ok,

> > > only waking once. I am having a way harder time than I think he

> > is. I

> > > feel awful when he gets really upset and I can tell he is

> > frustrated

> > > with this giant plastic thing on his head. I hate not being

able

> > to kiss

> > > his head and snuggle with him without fear of a black eye. I

know I

> > > should care what other people say or the stares but it is way

> > harder

> > > than I expected. People can be so rude! I was wonder if anyone

> > could

> > > tell me how they clean their helmet? I was told to use alcohol

and

> > water

> > > but it seems that the area of the helmet that touches his

forehead

> > is

> > > stinky and that doesn't seem to help. Also it seems that his

> > helmet sits

> > > so low on his face that he can barely see. He has to tip his

head

> > back

> > > just to look at things. I was thinking of asking to have it

> > trimmed at

> > > our check up but I don't even know if that is possible. I'm

sorry

> > this

> > > post is so long and thanks to anyone who spent the time to read

> > it...I

> > > am feeling very alone and a bit helpless. I'm glad I found this

> > group.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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I posted a few pics in the " Gavin " folder.. I moved our

appointment up today so we go at noon. Gavin woke this morning will all

the skin missing between his eyes it looks comparable to when you fall

down and skin your knee. I just feel sick about it. I am taking all the

advice from everyone and going with a list of questions and concerns. I

hope something can be done to correct the helmet because I feel as if I

am torturing my baby. Someone said to me yesterday I can't help but

stare at your baby with that thing on his head, I said THANK YOU we get

that a lot! I am trying to stay positive and not let peoples comments

get to me. All I care about at this point is making this a more

comfortable experience for Gavin. I will let everyone know what happens

at the appointment.

Gavin-8m (plagio/ Hanger helmet 1 week)

> > > >

> > > > Hi my name is and I just joined this group yesterday so

> I am

> > > a

> > > > little unsure of how it works.. I have an 8 month old son Gavin

> > > who was

> > > > diagnosed with plagiocephly around 3 months. The doctors

> assured

> > > us it

> > > > would fix itself once he started sitting up, rolling

> etc...well it

> > > > didn't. Around 5 months I asked to see a specialist at

> Dornbecker

> > > > Children's hospital in Portland, Oregon. The specialist said if

> > > she were

> > > > me should would wait another 6 weeks to see if it improved on

> its

> > > own.

> > > > So we left and I began thinking if I wanted anything done about

> > > this I

> > > > was going to have to take charge. It was almost like they

> didn't

> > > want to

> > > > hassle with it. I called back and told them I was going ahead

> with

> > > the

> > > > helmet. So we made a appointment for the scan at Hanger. We had

> > > the scan

> > > > done on a Friday and the helmet was supposed to be done in 2

> > > weeks, so

> > > > when 2 and ½ weeks went by and I hadn't heard anything I

> decided

> > to

> > > > call. The receptionist told he that the she didn't know what

> was

> > > going

> > > > on with the helmet and she would have to call me back. So the

> next

> > > day

> > > > she called to tell me that they were holding off to hear if the

> > > > insurance was going to cover the helmet. I was so angry, at the

> > > initial

> > > > scan I told the man that I was paying for the helmet wether the

> > > > insurance covered it or not! I feel like since I am a younger

> > > mother

> > > > they maybe thought I wouldn't pay for it or something. So

> almost 3

> > > weeks

> > > > later they were just sending the scan to have the helmet made.

> Last

> > > > Friday more than a month after the first appointment we got the

> > > call

> > > > that the helmet was finally in. Gavin was fitted and he made a

> few

> > > > adjustments but he seemed to tolerate it fairly well, he even

> fell

> > > > asleep with it on in the car on the ride home. So today is day

> 6

> > > and he

> > > > just slept with the helmet on all night for the first time, he

> did

> > > ok,

> > > > only waking once. I am having a way harder time than I think he

> > > is. I

> > > > feel awful when he gets really upset and I can tell he is

> > > frustrated

> > > > with this giant plastic thing on his head. I hate not being

> able

> > > to kiss

> > > > his head and snuggle with him without fear of a black eye. I

> know I

> > > > should care what other people say or the stares but it is way

> > > harder

> > > > than I expected. People can be so rude! I was wonder if anyone

> > > could

> > > > tell me how they clean their helmet? I was told to use alcohol

> and

> > > water

> > > > but it seems that the area of the helmet that touches his

> forehead

> > > is

> > > > stinky and that doesn't seem to help. Also it seems that his

> > > helmet sits

> > > > so low on his face that he can barely see. He has to tip his

> head

> > > back

> > > > just to look at things. I was thinking of asking to have it

> > > trimmed at

> > > > our check up but I don't even know if that is possible. I'm

> sorry

> > > this

> > > > post is so long and thanks to anyone who spent the time to read

> > > it...I

> > > > am feeling very alone and a bit helpless. I'm glad I found this

> > > group.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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, i just read your post and almost cried! I am so sorry that

happened! We had a similiar experience and I felt so guilty for a

long time. It took me almost a month to get over it. Much longer

than it did ! His sweet little head will heal, and in the end

you'll surely be glad you did all you could do to reshape his little

noggin! Try hard not to take it personally. It was not your fault.

There was no way for you to know that would happen. Most babies fuss

with a new helmet, so don't feel guilty! You are not torturing your

child, you're helping him. You're a great mom to be so concerned and

I'm sure they'll get it fixed (or have gotten it fixed rather). Let

us know what happens. Hang in there!

9mo, tort resolved, lft plagio, STARband 7wks

Conner 2yrs

NC USA

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi my name is and I just joined this group yesterday

so

> > I am

> > > > a

> > > > > little unsure of how it works.. I have an 8 month old son

Gavin

> > > > who was

> > > > > diagnosed with plagiocephly around 3 months. The doctors

> > assured

> > > > us it

> > > > > would fix itself once he started sitting up, rolling

> > etc...well it

> > > > > didn't. Around 5 months I asked to see a specialist at

> > Dornbecker

> > > > > Children's hospital in Portland, Oregon. The specialist

said if

> > > > she were

> > > > > me should would wait another 6 weeks to see if it improved

on

> > its

> > > > own.

> > > > > So we left and I began thinking if I wanted anything done

about

> > > > this I

> > > > > was going to have to take charge. It was almost like they

> > didn't

> > > > want to

> > > > > hassle with it. I called back and told them I was going

ahead

> > with

> > > > the

> > > > > helmet. So we made a appointment for the scan at Hanger. We

had

> > > > the scan

> > > > > done on a Friday and the helmet was supposed to be done in 2

> > > > weeks, so

> > > > > when 2 and ½ weeks went by and I hadn't heard anything I

> > decided

> > > to

> > > > > call. The receptionist told he that the she didn't know what

> > was

> > > > going

> > > > > on with the helmet and she would have to call me back. So

the

> > next

> > > > day

> > > > > she called to tell me that they were holding off to hear if

the

> > > > > insurance was going to cover the helmet. I was so angry, at

the

> > > > initial

> > > > > scan I told the man that I was paying for the helmet wether

the

> > > > > insurance covered it or not! I feel like since I am a

younger

> > > > mother

> > > > > they maybe thought I wouldn't pay for it or something. So

> > almost 3

> > > > weeks

> > > > > later they were just sending the scan to have the helmet

made.

> > Last

> > > > > Friday more than a month after the first appointment we got

the

> > > > call

> > > > > that the helmet was finally in. Gavin was fitted and he

made a

> > few

> > > > > adjustments but he seemed to tolerate it fairly well, he

even

> > fell

> > > > > asleep with it on in the car on the ride home. So today is

day

> > 6

> > > > and he

> > > > > just slept with the helmet on all night for the first time,

he

> > did

> > > > ok,

> > > > > only waking once. I am having a way harder time than I

think he

> > > > is. I

> > > > > feel awful when he gets really upset and I can tell he is

> > > > frustrated

> > > > > with this giant plastic thing on his head. I hate not being

> > able

> > > > to kiss

> > > > > his head and snuggle with him without fear of a black eye. I

> > know I

> > > > > should care what other people say or the stares but it is

way

> > > > harder

> > > > > than I expected. People can be so rude! I was wonder if

anyone

> > > > could

> > > > > tell me how they clean their helmet? I was told to use

alcohol

> > and

> > > > water

> > > > > but it seems that the area of the helmet that touches his

> > forehead

> > > > is

> > > > > stinky and that doesn't seem to help. Also it seems that his

> > > > helmet sits

> > > > > so low on his face that he can barely see. He has to tip his

> > head

> > > > back

> > > > > just to look at things. I was thinking of asking to have it

> > > > trimmed at

> > > > > our check up but I don't even know if that is possible. I'm

> > sorry

> > > > this

> > > > > post is so long and thanks to anyone who spent the time to

read

> > > > it...I

> > > > > am feeling very alone and a bit helpless. I'm glad I found

this

> > > > group.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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