Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 The gluten-free oat flakes are available at Mad Woman Bakery in south Minneapolis Madwoman Foods 2900 13th Ave S Minneapolis, MN 55407 Fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I find the last paragraph inconsistent with everything I have heard or read about gluten intolerance - can you share the sources or links on this? My understanding (and personal experience w/ two kids, one with and one without gluten intolerance) is that early introduction in a child with a family history of sensitivity is MORE likely to cause intolerance. Below is a link to one journal article that gives stats on breastfeeding and introduction of gluten affecting the sensitivity: http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FPNS%2FPNS64_04% 2FS0029665105000534a.pdf & code=9fb61afb9aefdfdadb323feb4fadd1e3 --- In trad-foods-MN , " realfoodie2003 " > > And lastly, (I think this is a big one since I am so into prevention!) > there has been research to show that if you introduce gluten to an > infant between 4-6 months of age, you may keep them from developing a > gluten intolerance in their lifetime. I don't have info about how, how > much or anything else, but there you have it parents of young babies! > Start digging to figure it out! (I thought this was most interesting > as parents of breastfed babies who are doing it " right " , usually don't > introduce solids until at least 6 months which would mean that the > window has been missed.) > > Hope to see you all at the Swap tomorrow! > > Kathy RN > Optimal Health Connection > Woodbury, MN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 , I know!!! And I'm sorry, I can't give you any further info...it wasn't really part of the presentation. It came from a question in the audience and the speaker confirmed it. I asked several people afterward to make sure I got it right and yes, you SHOULD introduce gluten between 4-6 months of age to PREVENT developing an intolerance. It is too late for our kids, but you'd better believe that if I was pregnant or had a newborn I would be on the internet trying to figure this out! Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Here is a discussion of a study on the introduction of gluten and the risk of developing type 1 diabetes. " However if cereals were introduced while the child was still breastfeeding the risk of islet autoimmunity was reduced and this reduction was independent of the child's age at initial cereal exposure. " http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/solids-diabetes.html > > Hi Kathy and All, > > I have been busy trying to get a new business up and running before > the end of the year, but have a couple of tidbits that I have been > wanting to share with you from a recent conference about gluten > sensitivity that I attended. > > Without having had time to review my notes as I had wanted, the first > is that it is that gluten sensitivity should not be regarded as a > disease of the bowel. It is implicated in a small but significant > (maybe 3-7%) number of persons with any kind of health problem whether > it be autoimmune, psychological, other organ-related such as thyroid, > gallbladder etc., even cancer. > > There is now a good, rather inexpensive saliva test that I and maybe > some of our other practitioners might be offering. > > Celiac disease requires lifelong abstinence from gluten. No cheating! > > Most people with gluten sensitivity can tolerate oats, but you need to > get ones that have not been processed in a factory with wheat and thus > contaminated. Bob's Red Mill has these (they must be labeled at such). > I haven't been able to find them yet though. > > And lastly, (I think this is a big one since I am so into prevention!) > there has been research to show that if you introduce gluten to an > infant between 4-6 months of age, you may keep them from developing a > gluten intolerance in their lifetime. I don't have info about how, how > much or anything else, but there you have it parents of young babies! > Start digging to figure it out! (I thought this was most interesting > as parents of breastfed babies who are doing it " right " , usually don't > introduce solids until at least 6 months which would mean that the > window has been missed.) > > Hope to see you all at the Swap tomorrow! > > Kathy RN > Optimal Health Connection > Woodbury, MN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Here is another good blurb about solids and the research out there: http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/solids-when.html#window > > Hi Kathy and All, > > I have been busy trying to get a new business up and running before > the end of the year, but have a couple of tidbits that I have been > wanting to share with you from a recent conference about gluten > sensitivity that I attended. > > Without having had time to review my notes as I had wanted, the first > is that it is that gluten sensitivity should not be regarded as a > disease of the bowel. It is implicated in a small but significant > (maybe 3-7%) number of persons with any kind of health problem whether > it be autoimmune, psychological, other organ-related such as thyroid, > gallbladder etc., even cancer. > > There is now a good, rather inexpensive saliva test that I and maybe > some of our other practitioners might be offering. > > Celiac disease requires lifelong abstinence from gluten. No cheating! > > Most people with gluten sensitivity can tolerate oats, but you need to > get ones that have not been processed in a factory with wheat and thus > contaminated. Bob's Red Mill has these (they must be labeled at such). > I haven't been able to find them yet though. > > And lastly, (I think this is a big one since I am so into prevention!) > there has been research to show that if you introduce gluten to an > infant between 4-6 months of age, you may keep them from developing a > gluten intolerance in their lifetime. I don't have info about how, how > much or anything else, but there you have it parents of young babies! > Start digging to figure it out! (I thought this was most interesting > as parents of breastfed babies who are doing it " right " , usually don't > introduce solids until at least 6 months which would mean that the > window has been missed.) > > Hope to see you all at the Swap tomorrow! > > Kathy RN > Optimal Health Connection > Woodbury, MN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Also here is another post that my LLL leader found for me that seemed very relavent to our discussion. It is posted by a lactation consultant and seems very inline with GAPS. http://community.lsoft.com/SCRIPTS/WA-LSOFTDONATIONS.EXE? A2=ind0802D & L=LACTNET & P=R7256 & I=-3 & d=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches > > Hi Kathy and All, > > I have been busy trying to get a new business up and running before > the end of the year, but have a couple of tidbits that I have been > wanting to share with you from a recent conference about gluten > sensitivity that I attended. > > Without having had time to review my notes as I had wanted, the first > is that it is that gluten sensitivity should not be regarded as a > disease of the bowel. It is implicated in a small but significant > (maybe 3-7%) number of persons with any kind of health problem whether > it be autoimmune, psychological, other organ-related such as thyroid, > gallbladder etc., even cancer. > > There is now a good, rather inexpensive saliva test that I and maybe > some of our other practitioners might be offering. > > Celiac disease requires lifelong abstinence from gluten. No cheating! > > Most people with gluten sensitivity can tolerate oats, but you need to > get ones that have not been processed in a factory with wheat and thus > contaminated. Bob's Red Mill has these (they must be labeled at such). > I haven't been able to find them yet though. > > And lastly, (I think this is a big one since I am so into prevention!) > there has been research to show that if you introduce gluten to an > infant between 4-6 months of age, you may keep them from developing a > gluten intolerance in their lifetime. I don't have info about how, how > much or anything else, but there you have it parents of young babies! > Start digging to figure it out! (I thought this was most interesting > as parents of breastfed babies who are doing it " right " , usually don't > introduce solids until at least 6 months which would mean that the > window has been missed.) > > Hope to see you all at the Swap tomorrow! > > Kathy RN > Optimal Health Connection > Woodbury, MN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I almost hate to bring this back up, BUT, I did a little research and apparently, it was (first?) reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in Vol. 293 No. 19, on May 18, 2005. The link is http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/293/19/2343 for those who would like to read the abstract. My impression is that the study was not terribly convincing. It does support though, that you certainly should NOT introduce cereal/gluten in the first 3 months of life AND to breastfeed as long as possible! Nothing new there! Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 So I looked at the conclusions of their study and only 25 children actually developed CDA. There was only a slight higher risk of the children were exposed AFTER six months, BUT this higher risk could be attributed to the fact that these children got MORE gluten containing foods than the children who were exposed between 4 and 6 months. Maybe the study proves that the more gluten containing foods a child is exposed to before 1 year, the higher the risk of developing CDA. They did not study children in the traditional foods community who don't give their children any gluten until a year or even 2 years and all those grains are soaked or fermented. It proves nothing for those of us who delay giving grains to our children until they are older. It just furthers some people's theory that studies can be dangerous when the results are over-simplified. Maybe they should do a study on children who are at increased risk for CDA and who aren't given grains until they are 2 and are also given lots of foods containing probiotics. > > I almost hate to bring this back up, BUT, I did a little research and > apparently, it was (first?) reported in the Journal of the American > Medical Association (JAMA) in Vol. 293 No. 19, on May 18, 2005. The > link is http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/293/19/2343 for > those who would like to read the abstract. > > My impression is that the study was not terribly convincing. It does > support though, that you certainly should NOT introduce cereal/gluten > in the first 3 months of life AND to breastfeed as long as possible! > Nothing new there! > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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