Re: Re: Houston Endo

[Guest guest]

Get copies of the labs the doctors. You have a right to them. Keep us posted.

Kate G

At 01:21 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote:

>Kate, I'm all new to being hypo so I'm not all clear on what is what

>and do not know exactly what I should push for with the doc. I did

>ask that my free T3s and free T4s be looked at as well as iron. Dr.

>Kormeir tested my cortisol wondering if my adrenals were taxed. Both

>of the docs said that my cortisol looked fine and didn't discuss it

>any further. I am still waiting to get the test results from Dr.

> and to get my prescription to Armour. We did not discuss at

>that point what levels my TSH should be at. I will discuss this with

>him at the next appt.

>

>Here is his contact info:

>Dr. K. , M.D.

>1200 Binz, Ste 1410

>Houston, TX 77004

>

>

>And yes, he seems to accept all insurance plans. I have United

>Healthcare. I paid my copay but haven't seen yet if they were ok with

>paying for everything else.

>

>-Janet

[Guest guest]

I'd call and ask for the ranges. You might ask if they are just saying the

" lab " was normal or you are normal. Hehe. You might also ask again about

" normal " with symptoms.

Kate G

At 02:23 PM 3/25/2008, you wrote:

>I got my lab results from Dr. today -- along with a prescription to

>Armour. It came in the mail so there wasn't any discussion about any of

>the information. There was a cover form for the lab report. In the comment

>line it was written " thyroid normal, no TSH done, will match to Armour

>1/2 gr, recheck in 6 weeks.

>

>In the test results,

>T3 Total: 178

>T4 (Thyroxine): 10.3

>Free T4 (Thyroxine): 1.30

>

>I'm not sure if this is in the area of being " normal " based on the

>numbers. I'm frustrated that he didn't check any iron levels or anything

>else that we had talked about. So maybe Dr. isn't the best option. :-(

>

>But I'm happy to now have a script for Armour. Can I go to any pharmacy to

>get this?

>

>-Janet

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Did the labs have what the normal range

is? It would be helpful if you could post them, if they are

available. So I’m trying to remember. Where you on any

thyroid replacement before? Is this a 30 mg starting dose or is it 30 mg

increase?

Kim in No Texas

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Janet Daghri

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:24

PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Houston

Endo

I got my lab results

from Dr. today -- along with a prescription to Armour. It came in the

mail so there wasn't any discussion about any of the information. There was a

cover form for the lab report. In the comment line it was written " thyroid

normal, no TSH done, will match to Armour 1/2 gr, recheck in 6 weeks.

In the test results,

T3 Total: 178

T4 (Thyroxine): 10.3

Free T4 (Thyroxine):

1.30

I'm not sure if this

is in the area of being " normal " based on the numbers. I'm frustrated

that he didn't check any iron levels or anything else that we had talked about.

So maybe Dr. isn't the best option. :-(

But I'm happy to now

have a script for Armour. Can I go to any pharmacy to get this?

-Janet

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the details. It is all

sounding familiar now.

Are your body temps basal (first thing in

the AM) or during the day? I go to Dr R. He is concerned with the

basal temps.

You really have to get rid of the

soy. I have been told that soy oil should not be a problem though. It

is my understanding that soy lecithin is essentially an oil too. That

makes it quite a bit easier. Soy is an anithyroid.

Have you had your ferritin or iron low?

I don’t think you are supposed to supplement iron unless you know you

need it for sure.

Are you replacing the Levoxyl with Armour

or adding the Armour to the Levoxyl.? ½ grain or 30 mg of Armour

is a pretty small dose. As Jan says, what everyone needs is highly

individual but 30 mg is pretty low.

I’m sure others will chime in with

their thoughts.

Hang in there!

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Janet Daghri

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008

12:01 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Houston

Endo

On the

lab report there is a column for " Expected Range " .

I've listed what it says below:

T3 Total: 90-200 (mine is 178)

T4: 4.4-12.5 (mine is 10.3)

Free T4: 0.73-1.95 (mine is 1.3)

I have been on Levoxyl .05 mg for 2 months now. That was prescribed by

Dr. Kormeir. I wanted to give Armour a try which led me to find Dr. on

the Armour doc list for Houston.

Dr. Kormeir found me to be sub-clinically hypothyroid after a TSH Stimulation

test was done. My numbers went up by 10x -- not sure what that means other than

my thyroid didn't handle the hormone stimulation well.

I discussed with Dr. that I have felt like I had hypo symptoms

for nearing 9 years now but was told that my numbers were within the ok range.

He said that it could take up to 3-4 months before I started feeling much of a

difference from the medication. 9 years is a long time for my body to be

functioning at below normal. I do feel some better than before. I have a bit

more energy and I sleep better most nights. My body temp has gone up from 96.7

to 98.2. I'm hoping that change will keep me from getting sick all the time. I

also have less headaches than I did before. So these are good signs. I still

have cold hands and feet, brain fog, low energy in the afternoons, weight that

won't budge and low s*x drive. Some days are worse than others with these

symptoms. I'm hoping that taking Armour will make me feel that much better.

After joining this group I have learned to restrict my soy intake. I

haven't been able to completely kick it out of my diet but I have reduced it

quite a bit. I have started taking an iron supplement (65 mg) as well as a

chelated magnesium supplement (250-500 mg depending on if I remember to take

the second pill). The magnesium may be what is responsible for my better nights

sleep.

I will give this route some time and see how I'm doing. I might end up

heading up to see Dr. R in Lubbock.

-Janet

[Guest guest]

If you think that you may want to come to Lubbock to see Dr R, you may want to get an appointment made. My friend wanted to get in, and it was going to be June before she could get in. She knows she is hypoT among other things. I don't know if she went ahead and made an appointment. I hope she did. She really is fatigued and trying to keep up with a 14 and 12 year old daughter. Marcie Janet Daghri wrote: On the lab report there is a column for "Expected Range". I've listed what it says below: T3 Total: 90-200 (mine is 178) T4: 4.4-12.5 (mine is 10.3) Free T4: 0.73-1.95 (mine is 1.3) I have been on Levoxyl .05 mg for 2 months now. That

was prescribed by Dr. Kormeir. I wanted to give Armour a try which led me to find Dr. on the Armour doc list for Houston. Dr. Kormeir found me to be sub-clinically hypothyroid after a TSH Stimulation test was done. My numbers went up by 10x -- not sure what that means other than my thyroid didn't handle the hormone stimulation well. I discussed with Dr. that I have felt like I had hypo symptoms for nearing 9 years now but was told that my numbers were within the ok range. He said that it could take up to 3-4 months before I started feeling much of a difference from the medication. 9 years is a long time for my body to be functioning at below normal. I do feel some better than before. I have a bit more energy and I sleep better most nights. My body temp has gone up from 96.7 to 98.2. I'm hoping that change will keep me from getting sick all the time. I also have less headaches than I did before. So these are good signs. I still

have cold hands and feet, brain fog, low energy in the afternoons, weight that won't budge and low s*x drive. Some days are worse than others with these symptoms. I'm hoping that taking Armour will make me feel that much better. After joining this group I have learned to restrict my soy intake. I haven't been able to completely kick it out of my diet but I have reduced it quite a bit. I have started taking an iron supplement (65 mg) as well as a chelated magnesium supplement (250-500 mg depending on if I remember to take the second pill). The magnesium may be what is responsible for my better nights sleep. I will give this route some time and see how I'm doing. I might end up heading up to see Dr. R in Lubbock. -Janet

[Guest guest]

Just keep in mind that your labs might not

correlate with how you feel. A lot of us have pretty normal looking labs

but still definitely have symptoms of hypothyroidism. As you have noted,

it might take changing a doctor who will treat according to symptoms, basal

temps and physical exam along with the labs.

It sounds like you are doing okay with the

soy.

I hope the 30 mg helps you feel better!

Kim in No Texas

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Janet Daghri

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008

1:44 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Houston

Endo

Marcie, thanks for

the schedule warning on Dr. R. I will keep that in mind if I end up giving up

on Houston

docs.

Kim, my temps are

basal. The Armour is instead of Levoxyl that I am currently taking. I know that

I'm on a small amount of meds. I figure it is just for starters and to see how

things go. But with this second round of tests showing that I am " within

range " it seems that I will likely stay on the smaller dosage.

I didn't realize that

soy oils and soy lecithin are not really a problem. That is what I have a

harder time getting out of my diet. I'm very careful on what I eat first thing

after taking my meds in the morning. I don't really use soy in any other way

like protein powders, diet items that use soy protein, etc. Chinese/Japanese

foods are really the only time I know I get soy outside of an ingredient in

breads or packaged foods (which I don't do too much of anyway). I only eat

oriental food on an occasional basis.

Thanks so much for

all the comments and support! I've been learning a lot from this group!!! Janet