Re: Steel-Bow / Isokinator comparison

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Below is part of a post I made for the BW Forum. It is my response to misconstrued information regarding the comparison of the Steel-Bow with the Isokinator. While it might be a little confusing without seeing the website, my points tie in very well with Mr. Kumar's comments and questions post below. That is why it is partial. If someone wishes to read the full post it is on the other Forum. First of all, I own an eXXerwatch and have since 2001. It is a great piece of equipment. I also own a Muscle Gun and the Fitness Bar. They are great pieces of equipment. For some strange reason when 2+2 = 4, this group will tell you that 3+1 does not give the same results. They will not tell you why, just that my 4 doesn't equal their

4. I can understand 3 does not = 4; but when the motion and resistance are the same, please do not insult me by saying 4 does not = 4. One is definitely smaller and more compact than the other. One is also much more versatile than the other. I'll let the readers decide which is which. My eXXerwatch is not for sale. Nor is my Muscle Gun or Fitness Bar. They work and I enjoy using them. The eXXerwatch and Lady Bullworker played a part in the development of the Steel-Bow. So did material and conversations I had with Dr. Lam, the Black Belt Master and Author of Tai Chi Health Books. It was Dr. Lam who complimented me on my use of the term "Fitness Ballet" in my proposed marriage of the two routines. At one time, there was discussion for Dr. Lam to develop the Iso-Motion program. He

was most gracious and courteous to me in my brief correspondence with him. So I will challenge the differences and benefits when I read what I feel are unfair comparisons. If you want to compare... compare. Don't manufacture facts and statements that are not true to support your stance. You want to discuss Pros & Cons, I am very open to discussion. But if your math refuses to agree that both 2+2 and 3+1 = 4, then is no common ground for agreement. And if the math is truly 2+2 and 1.9+2.1 = 4 and you still disagree... there is no light to go on for one to see. Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: Website comparing Steel-Bow to Isokinator I am intrigued to say the least about Isoworker’s website comparison to the Steel-Bow. It is always a simple matter to compare devices… use them side by side and explain how they are different. To leave categories blank for the Steel-Bow when comparing is misleading and deceptive. It appears he has chosen to compare a product he does not own or has never tried. Unfortunately, that is a criteria for evaluation comparison. Here are a few additions for the comparison website: · The weight of the Steel-Bow (SB) is 24 oz. · The spring steel bar inside the Isokinator (I) is flexible as is the coiled spring in the SB. They are both flexible and moving; which is how the resistance is created. · The Kobel designed Powermeter on the SB is a much easier fixed resistance

gauge to observe than the 1.5 inch gauge on the I. · As for superior force… based on what? · The definition of desmondromic, maintaining “fixed resistance” what do you think the Iso-Motion exercises are? · Maximum movement… please explain what SB movements that cannot be done, (ie. Side to side / head to toe). · Exercise environment: why are there limits on the SB? It goes anywhere the I does. · Exercise positions: Did you make this one up? Please explain how the SB cannot be used in similar positions. · Warm-up exercises: are you saying one cannot use the SB if they do not warm up? Furthermore, there are no warm-up instructions on the SB chart? Where did you come up with this statement? · No Muscle pain… this statement is incredulous… resistance levels of any level can result in muscle soreness for certain individuals. · Undisclosed: again… what movement and resistance are you differentiating from between these two? If the movement and the

resistance is the same… other than the size of the device…how are the results different? There are no exercise movements of the Isokinator that cannot be performed by the SB other than ones hands being closer together in the movement. The Isokinator is primarily a PULL device. The Steel-Bow is a PULL-PUSH device… Please explain to all of us why the PUSH motion is no longer beneficial. There is nothing more compact that I know of than the Isokinator. I was impressed with the eXXerwatch from the first time I ever saw it. However, in a side-by-side comparison, please explain which product can do more exercise routines and furthermore, why such routines are no longer beneficial.... ....Stick to the

facts and support your statements. Your unsubstantiated claims against the Steel-Bow are extremely biased and in some points outright deceitful. Bullworker USA In closing, I would like to reiterate Mr. Kumar's comment about Gert Kolbels being an exercise genius. He was, still is and probably always will be. But most important to this exercise genius he possesses; in all of his marketing, to my knowledge, he has never attacked another product in marketing his, nor have I seen "quality" marketers attack the integrity of his products. I hold great admiration for that type of marketing ethic and will readily defend distortions against mine from those whose sole purpose is

to gain a sale. Those type of promoters have always been out there and unfortunately, they always will be. BullworkerUSA shravan kumar wrote: Here is a comparision between iskinator, bullworker and steelbow.http://www.isoworker.com/isokinator+versusThe

following are the advantages of isokinator.automatic cardio vascular exercise after 6 seconds. Muscle blood flow 32 fold increase for up to 6 hours. Brain blood flow increases by 40%.deep muscular massage to the intestines and stimulation of the inner organs.Fat burning 48 hour after burning.I bought isokinator manual over their website few days back and want to give a try of these exercises to test the effectiveness before I buy the equipment. Isokinator or steel bow is great do these exercises but you can do it with a piece of rope also. The only constraint is you should maintain tension through out the range. Today is the second day of training. I did 3 sets of 10 reps each. These are my observations.I am getting the same pump of high rep low-tension training I do at gym.Today before exercise my biceps measured 15.5 after 30 minutes of training it measured to 16.25 inches.For

bodybuilding the pump is of substantial importance and is something to pursue. This also attests its effectiveness on blood flow increase. Here is my question. In the comparison chart I don't see any of these advantages under steel bow. If steel bow isomotion is an extension of isokinator exercise then this is wrong. In Isokinator manual gert lists 7 male exercises and 20 advanced exercises out of which some are the variation of the same exercise. I find around 13 useful exercises over all.How many isomotion exercises steel bow has? Is it similar to the one listed in exxerwatch manual. I would appreciate if any of the steel bow users share their experience with isomotion. After experiencing the pump I got from these exercises there is one thought in my mind. Man this guy gert klbel is a genius in exercise science.

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, Thanks for your explanation. This explains steel bow provides all isokinator benefits plus additional benefits from push motion. Thanks, Kumar wrote: Below is

part of a post I made for the BW Forum. It is my response to misconstrued information regarding the comparison of the Steel-Bow with the Isokinator. While it might be a little confusing without seeing the website, my points tie in very well with Mr. Kumar's comments and questions post below. That is why it is partial. If someone wishes to read the full post it is on the other Forum. First of all, I own an eXXerwatch and have since 2001. It is a great piece of equipment. I also own a Muscle Gun and the Fitness Bar. They are great pieces of equipment. For some strange reason when 2+2 = 4, this group will tell you that 3+1 does not give the same results. They will not tell you why, just that my 4 doesn't equal their 4. I can understand 3 does not

= 4; but when the motion and resistance are the same, please do not insult me by saying 4 does not = 4. One is definitely smaller and more compact than the other. One is also much more versatile than the other. I'll let the readers decide which is which. My eXXerwatch is not for sale. Nor is my Muscle Gun or Fitness Bar. They work and I enjoy using them. The eXXerwatch and Lady Bullworker played a part in the development of the Steel-Bow. So did material and conversations I had with Dr. Lam, the Black Belt Master and Author of Tai Chi Health Books. It was Dr. Lam who complimented me on my use of the term "Fitness Ballet" in my proposed marriage of the two routines. At one time, there was discussion for Dr. Lam to develop the Iso-Motion program. He was most gracious and courteous to me in

my brief correspondence with him. So I will challenge the differences and benefits when I read what I feel are unfair comparisons. If you want to compare... compare. Don't manufacture facts and statements that are not true to support your stance. You want to discuss Pros & Cons, I am very open to discussion. But if your math refuses to agree that both 2+2 and 3+1 = 4, then is no common ground for agreement. And if the math is truly 2+2 and 1.9+2.1 = 4 and you still disagree... there is no light to go on for one to see. Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:54 pm Post

subject: Website comparing Steel-Bow to Isokinator I am intrigued to say the least about Isoworker’s website comparison to the Steel-Bow. It is always a simple matter to compare devices… use them side by side and explain how they are different. To leave categories blank for the Steel-Bow when comparing is misleading and deceptive. It appears he has chosen to compare a product he does not own or has never tried. Unfortunately, that is a criteria for evaluation comparison. Here are a few additions for the comparison website: · The weight of the Steel-Bow (SB) is 24 oz. · The spring steel bar inside the Isokinator (I) is flexible as is the coiled spring in the SB. They are both flexible and moving; which is how the resistance is created. · The Kobel designed Powermeter on the SB is a much easier fixed resistance gauge to observe than the 1.5 inch gauge on

the I. · As for superior force… based on what? · The definition of desmondromic, maintaining “fixed resistance” what do you think the Iso-Motion exercises are? · Maximum movement… please explain what SB movements that cannot be done, (ie. Side to side / head to toe). · Exercise environment: why are there limits on the SB? It goes anywhere the I does. · Exercise positions: Did you make this one up? Please explain how the SB cannot be used in similar positions. · Warm-up exercises: are you saying one cannot use the SB if they do not warm up? Furthermore, there are no warm-up instructions on the SB chart? Where did you come up with this statement? · No Muscle pain… this statement is incredulous… resistance levels of any level can result in muscle soreness for certain individuals. · Undisclosed: again… what movement and resistance are you differentiating from between these two? If the movement and the resistance is the same… other than the size

of the device…how are the results different? There are no exercise movements of the Isokinator that cannot be performed by the SB other than ones hands being closer together in the movement. The Isokinator is primarily a PULL device. The Steel-Bow is a PULL-PUSH device… Please explain to all of us why the PUSH motion is no longer beneficial. There is nothing more compact that I know of than the Isokinator. I was impressed with the eXXerwatch from the first time I ever saw it. However, in a side-by-side comparison, please explain which product can do more exercise routines and furthermore, why such routines are no longer beneficial.... ....Stick to the facts and support your statements. Your

unsubstantiated claims against the Steel-Bow are extremely biased and in some points outright deceitful. Bullworker USA In closing, I would like to reiterate Mr. Kumar's comment about Gert Kolbels being an exercise genius. He was, still is and probably always will be. But most important to this exercise genius he possesses; in all of his marketing, to my knowledge, he has never attacked another product in marketing his, nor have I seen "quality" marketers attack the integrity of his products. I hold great admiration for that type of marketing ethic and will readily defend distortions against mine from those whose sole purpose is to gain a sale. Those type of

promoters have always been out there and unfortunately, they always will be. BullworkerUSA shravan kumar <skvignesh> wrote: Here is a comparision between iskinator, bullworker and steelbow.http://www.isoworker.com/isokinator+versusThe following are the advantages of isokinator.automatic cardio vascular exercise after 6 seconds. Muscle blood flow 32 fold increase for up to 6 hours. Brain blood flow increases by 40%.deep muscular massage to the intestines and stimulation of the inner organs.Fat burning 48 hour after burning.I bought

isokinator manual over their website few days back and want to give a try of these exercises to test the effectiveness before I buy the equipment. Isokinator or steel bow is great do these exercises but you can do it with a piece of rope also. The only constraint is you should maintain tension through out the range. Today is the second day of training. I did 3 sets of 10 reps each. These are my observations.I am getting the same pump of high rep low-tension training I do at gym.Today before exercise my biceps measured 15.5 after 30 minutes of training it measured to 16.25 inches.For bodybuilding the pump is of substantial importance and is something to pursue. This also attests its effectiveness on blood flow increase. Here is my question. In the comparison chart I don't see any of these advantages under steel bow. If steel bow isomotion is an extension of isokinator exercise then this is wrong. In

Isokinator manual gert lists 7 male exercises and 20 advanced exercises out of which some are the variation of the same exercise. I find around 13 useful exercises over all.How many isomotion exercises steel bow has? Is it similar to the one listed in exxerwatch manual. I would appreciate if any of the steel bow users share their experience with isomotion. After experiencing the pump I got from these exercises there is one thought in my mind. Man this guy gert klbel is a genius in exercise science. Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.

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