Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Anyone who is familiar with the child can do the ABLLS. That would be the parents or the therapist/teacher who is working closely with him. ABLLS-R >I have an 8 year old boy (Aspergers) in first grade in public school. > We see a private Speech Therapist who has diagnosed Dyslexia. I > requested screening for " dyslexia and all related disorders " as well as > the ABLLS-R so we can see where the holes might be and come up with > some academic goals for his IEP (He has one annual goal with 6 > benchmarks, all behavior related.) At first, his teacher said he was > too verbal for the ABLLS, that he was way beyond what it would show. I > told her it was my understanding that there was reading and math on > there also. A date was set for the ARD to discuss the Dyslexia testing - > no mention of the ABLLS-R. Today I got an email that she is finishing > up the ABLLS so I can look at it prior to the ARD. I thought > administering the ABBLS required certain training? Is it not consider > to be a formal diagnostic test? > > Debbie A > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > Texas Disability Network > Calendar of Events > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I would somewhat caution about that reply... If a parent is using the ABLLS as a benchmark for progress and ability - then it SHOULD ONLY be administered by someone who has had appropriate training in how to CORRECTLY administer the ABLLS. Having a different person each year - do that assessment - can give you results that are not accurate. We use the ABLLS to chart progress and to help define IEP goals. We had many issues when different people would administer it - they used different levels of prompting, didn't mark the score sheet accurately, etc. So we never really knew the true picture of his abilities as the ABLLS is defined to show. So - we have since made sure that the same person in the district administer that test. I would ask that the same person administer that test each time - and ask that the person assessing have training in the proper way to administer and score that test. C - or other therapists on this list could best discuss qualifications and why that is important in doing that test correctly. Done properly - the ABLLS is great documentation to show progress made - or to prove progress not made.... Sincerely, Guppy Mouser wrote: Anyone who is familiar with the child can do the ABLLS. That would be the parents or the therapist/teacher who is working closely with him. ABLLS-R >I have an 8 year old boy (Aspergers) in first grade in public school. > We see a private Speech Therapist who has diagnosed Dyslexia. I > requested screening for " dyslexia and all related disorders " as well as > the ABLLS-R so we can see where the holes might be and come up with > some academic goals for his IEP (He has one annual goal with 6 > benchmarks, all behavior related.) At first, his teacher said he was > too verbal for the ABLLS, that he was way beyond what it would show. I > told her it was my understanding that there was reading and math on > there also. A date was set for the ARD to discuss the Dyslexia testing - > no mention of the ABLLS-R. Today I got an email that she is finishing > up the ABLLS so I can look at it prior to the ARD. I thought > administering the ABBLS required certain training? Is it not consider > to be a formal diagnostic test? > > Debbie A > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > Texas Disability Network > Calendar of Events > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 , I agree that the same person should it all the time. In our case, we (the parents) usually do it and are familiar with the Verbal Behavior approach. What I meant in my answer is that there is no needed certification to perform the test. Sorry I was not clear. ABLLS-R > >>I have an 8 year old boy (Aspergers) in first grade in public school. >> We see a private Speech Therapist who has diagnosed Dyslexia. I >> requested screening for " dyslexia and all related disorders " as well as >> the ABLLS-R so we can see where the holes might be and come up with >> some academic goals for his IEP (He has one annual goal with 6 >> benchmarks, all behavior related.) At first, his teacher said he was >> too verbal for the ABLLS, that he was way beyond what it would show. I >> told her it was my understanding that there was reading and math on >> there also. A date was set for the ARD to discuss the Dyslexia testing - >> no mention of the ABLLS-R. Today I got an email that she is finishing >> up the ABLLS so I can look at it prior to the ARD. I thought >> administering the ABBLS required certain training? Is it not consider >> to be a formal diagnostic test? >> >> Debbie A >> >> >> >> Texas Autism Advocacy >> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org >> >> Texas Disability Network >> Calendar of Events >> www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 There are no set guidelines for who should administer The ABLLS and, therefore, there is certainly room for disagreement between parents and school districts regarding this issue. It is not practical to expect the school district to provide the same person to perform each update of The ABLLS as there are so many variables affecting staffing over which administrators may or may not have control. In my experience, those who are likely to complete The ABLLS in a way that is most accurate are those who have considerable experience, not only assessing with it, but also teaching the objectives contained in it. Therefore, in my opinion, it is reasonable for parents to request that The ABLLS will be either directly administered or supervised by someone with this type of experience. If the district does not have anyone on staff with this type of experience they could contract with an outside consultant. There are a quite a few BCBA's in TX who are very familiar with The ABLLS. Gail Wayman, M.Ed., BCBA Wayman Learning Center M. Guppy wrote: > > I would somewhat caution about that reply... > > If a parent is using the ABLLS as a benchmark for progress and ability > - then it SHOULD ONLY be administered by someone who has had > appropriate training in how to CORRECTLY administer the ABLLS. Having > a different person each year - do that assessment - can give you > results that are not accurate. > > We use the ABLLS to chart progress and to help define IEP goals. We > had many issues when different people would administer it - they used > different levels of prompting, didn't mark the score sheet accurately, > etc. So we never really knew the true picture of his abilities as the > ABLLS is defined to show. So - we have since made sure that the same > person in the district administer that test. > > I would ask that the same person administer that test each time - and > ask that the person assessing have training in the proper way to > administer and score that test. > > C - or other therapists on this list could best discuss > qualifications and why that is important in doing that test correctly. > > Done properly - the ABLLS is great documentation to show progress made > - or to prove progress not made.... > > > > Sincerely, > Guppy > > Mouser <ginaam@... <mailto:ginaam%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote: > Anyone who is familiar with the child can do the ABLLS. That would be the > parents or the therapist/teacher who is working closely with him. > > > ABLLS-R > > >I have an 8 year old boy (Aspergers) in first grade in public school. > > We see a private Speech Therapist who has diagnosed Dyslexia. I > > requested screening for " dyslexia and all related disorders " as well as > > the ABLLS-R so we can see where the holes might be and come up with > > some academic goals for his IEP (He has one annual goal with 6 > > benchmarks, all behavior related.) At first, his teacher said he was > > too verbal for the ABLLS, that he was way beyond what it would show. I > > told her it was my understanding that there was reading and math on > > there also. A date was set for the ARD to discuss the Dyslexia testing - > > no mention of the ABLLS-R. Today I got an email that she is finishing > > up the ABLLS so I can look at it prior to the ARD. I thought > > administering the ABBLS required certain training? Is it not consider > > to be a formal diagnostic test? > > > > Debbie A > > > > > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > > > Texas Disability Network > > Calendar of Events > > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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