Guest guest Posted October 30, 1999 Report Share Posted October 30, 1999 Thought you all might be interested -- I know the Fentanyl/Versed combo is the most commonly used one, at least for me, so I thought I'd pass the word to you all. They are recommending using propofol instead. Just something to ask the doc about, if you are concerned (ONE more question for the doc!!). Take care, http://pediatrics.medscape.com/reuters/prof/1999/10/10.25/cl10259g.html Remifentanil Plus Midazolam Not Recommended For Conscious Sedation in Children WESTPORT, Oct 25 (Reuters Health) - Remifentanil, when used in combination with midazolam for sedation and analgesia in children undergoing brief painful procedures, causes " ...a high incidence of life-threatening respiratory depression at subtherapeutic levels. " Dr. S. Litman of the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry in Rochester, New York, administered midazolam followed by remifentanil to 17 children, aged 2 to 12 years scheduled to undergo brief procedures including " ...bone marrow biopsy, renal biopsy and closed fracture reduction. " Although remifentanil successfully sedated the children in 17 out of 20 procedures performed, four children developed hypoxemia and 10 developed apnea. Verbal prompting corrected both conditions in all patients but on, a 2-year-old who did not respond to verbal instructions. Dr. Litman writes that " ...the combination of midazolam and remifentanil was not a useful conscious sedation technique...due to a high incidence of respiratory depression at subtherapeutic doses and frequent need for additional sedatives to provide patient comfort. " He adds that his institution has " ...since discontinued the use of the remifentanil and midazolam combination...and all subsequent patients receive a propofol-based technique. " In an interview with Reuters Health, Dr. Litman noted that " ...remifentanil is more dangerous than propofol. " He added that even though propofol induces unconsciousness, it has a safe history and a " ...therapeutic ratio that is wider than most other sedatives. " An anesthesiologist should be present when using propofol, according to the Rochester clinician, or there could be liability issues. Dr. Litman writes in the article that remifentanil " ...is generally contraindicated in children younger than 4 or 5 years, or in older children with cognitive impairment, " and he advises that " ...patients be selected based on their ability to comprehend that they will be frequently prompted to breathe throughout the procedure. " He further recommends that " ...practitioners who administer this combination of sedatives should expect respiratory depression, be alert to its onset, and be skilled in airway maintenance techniques. " Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med 1999;153:1085-1088. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 In a message dated 10/31/99 4:06:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, williamk@... writes: << Thought you all might be interested -- I know the Fentanyl/Versed combo is the most commonly used one, at least for me, so I thought I'd pass the word to you all. >> , thanks for the article! had the Fentanyl/Versed combo during his three procedures this year (endoscopy, liver biopsy, colonoscopy), and he required O2 support all three times. I'll pass the article on to his doctors. Thanks again! Debbie, Mom to , 3.5 yrs old, Severe Combined Immunodeficiency post Bone Marrow Transplant, IVIG Dependant, gastrostomy tube fed, gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) with hiatal hernia, Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD), epilepsy, hypotonic cerebral palsy, developmental delays, cortical vision impairment, non-verbal, who happens to look like a very young Rob Lowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 Thanks for the info , We have always used Chloral Hydrate and have had great results. is never groggy after. ;o) Article on Conscious Sedation in Children > > >Thought you all might be interested -- I know the Fentanyl/Versed combo >is the most commonly used one, at least for me, so I thought I'd pass >the word to you all. They are recommending using propofol instead. Just >something to ask the doc about, if you are concerned (ONE more question >for the doc!!). >Take care, > > >http://pediatrics.medscape.com/reuters/prof/1999/10/10.25/cl10259g.html >Remifentanil Plus Midazolam Not Recommended For Conscious >Sedation in Children > > >WESTPORT, Oct 25 (Reuters Health) - Remifentanil, when used in >combination with midazolam for sedation and >analgesia in children undergoing brief painful procedures, causes " ...a >high incidence of life-threatening respiratory >depression at subtherapeutic levels. " > >Dr. S. Litman of the University of Rochester School of Medicine >and Dentistry in Rochester, New York, >administered midazolam followed by remifentanil to 17 children, aged 2 >to 12 years scheduled to undergo brief procedures >including " ...bone marrow biopsy, renal biopsy and closed fracture reduction. " > >Although remifentanil successfully sedated the children in 17 out of 20 >procedures performed, four children developed >hypoxemia and 10 developed apnea. Verbal prompting corrected both >conditions in all patients but on, a 2-year-old who did >not respond to verbal instructions. > >Dr. Litman writes that " ...the combination of midazolam and remifentanil >was not a useful conscious sedation >technique...due to a high incidence of respiratory depression at >subtherapeutic doses and frequent need for additional >sedatives to provide patient comfort. " > >He adds that his institution has " ...since discontinued the use of the >remifentanil and midazolam combination...and all >subsequent patients receive a propofol-based technique. " > >In an interview with Reuters Health, Dr. Litman noted that > " ...remifentanil is more dangerous than propofol. " He added >that even though propofol induces unconsciousness, it has a safe history >and a " ...therapeutic ratio that is wider than most >other sedatives. " An anesthesiologist should be present when using >propofol, according to the Rochester clinician, or there >could be liability issues. > >Dr. Litman writes in the article that remifentanil " ...is generally >contraindicated in children younger than 4 or 5 years, or in >older children with cognitive impairment, " and he advises that > " ...patients be selected based on their ability to comprehend >that they will be frequently prompted to breathe throughout the >procedure. " > >He further recommends that " ...practitioners who administer this >combination of sedatives should expect respiratory >depression, be alert to its onset, and be skilled in airway maintenance >techniques. " > >Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med 1999;153:1085-1088. > >>This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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