Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 >Maurice, do you have any information or opinions on this product? You can start here. http://www.personalcarepolymers.com/Site/ProdInfo.asp Maurice ------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 In a message dated 8/25/02 6:05:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jans@... writes: > Good Evening, > Does any one know where to get this? I am looking for a reseller. I do not > want to buy a #50 for over $600. > Maurice, do you have any information or opinions on this product? > Thanks in Advance, > Jan S > www.sweetprairiesoap.com > soap & sundries wholesale/retail > Collapsible Soap Molds in 2 sizes. > Hi Jan, What is your goal for the product? I may be able to help. I sell a product called NatraBath. It is not the same thing as the Natrasorb HFB, but it may have some similar qualities. It absorbs and holds oils, but is water soluble when dissolved in a bath. It also has a soft feel in the bath water. It reportedly can be used in anhydrous products, like balms, to absorb oils, but I have not used it that way, so don't know how it works. I have used it in a bath though and it is excellent. You can find the NatraSorb here: http://www.theherbarie.com/ingredients.html Let me know if I can help. Angie The Herbarie...Visit us at: http://www.theherbarie.com for Body Care Products and Bulk Ingredients...Botanical Extracts and Proteins, Ultra-Mild Surfactant Blends, Conditioning Emulsifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 In a message dated 8/26/02 8:39:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jans@... writes: > Angie, > I used 1 tsp in salt scrub recipe I had worked up. It was perfect. > I then tried skin flow c as a replacement, more natural, at a much larger > rate. Never did as nicely. I think it is the polymers that make the > difference. > After reading all the info Maurice provided, I was worried about the > aluminum that was in the composition of the Natrasorb HFB. > Thanks Angie! > Jan S > www.sweetprairiesoap.com > soap & sundries wholesale/retail > Collapsible Soap Molds in 2 sizes. > jans@... > Hi Jan, The NatraBath is a different animal. The INCI name is: Tapioca Starch and it is pretty benign. I am going to have to " play " with it to see how it works in other applications. Angie The Herbarie...Visit us at: http://www.theherbarie.com for Body Care Products and Bulk Ingredients...Botanical Extracts and Proteins, Ultra-Mild Surfactant Blends, Conditioning Emulsifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Angie, I used 1 tsp in salt scrub recipe I had worked up. It was perfect. I then tried skin flow c as a replacement, more natural, at a much larger rate. Never did as nicely. I think it is the polymers that make the difference. After reading all the info Maurice provided, I was worried about the aluminum that was in the composition of the Natrasorb HFB. Thanks Angie! Jan S www.sweetprairiesoap.com soap & sundries wholesale/retail Collapsible Soap Molds in 2 sizes. jans@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 >After reading all the info Maurice provided, I was worried about the >aluminum that was in the composition of the Natrasorb HFB. CIR Final Report on the Safety Assessment of Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate International Journal of Toxicology Volume: 21 Number: 2 Supplement: 1 Page: p1-p7 Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate is the aluminum salt of the reaction product of octenylsuccinic anhydride with starch. It is used in cosmetics at concentrations as high as 30% as an anticaking agent and a nonaqueous viscosity increasing agent. No information was available on the presence of impurities in the cosmetic-grade ingredient. When used in foods, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate is identified as a modified food starch, and is subject to limitations on heavy metal residues. Oral studies using Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate or its related sodium salt produced no adverse systemic, reproductive, or developmental effects. Dermal injections produced no abnormal skin or systemic reactions in guinea pigs. Ocular toxicity was assessed in rabbits and using an in vitro test (chorioallantoic membrane vascular assay). In both cases no toxicity was seen. An acute inhalation toxicity study in rats was negative. Clinical tests indicated little irritation potential and no sensitization. Absent data on impurities in cosmetic-grade material, it was determined that such material should meet the same impurities requirements established for modified food starches. Based on these available data the Cosmetic Ingredient Review Expert Panel concluded that Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate is safe as used in cosmetic formulations provided that established limitations imposed on heavy metal concentrations are not exceeded. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Maurice, Thanks so much for your invaluable help. Chemistry was never my strong suite. If explained in layman terms I understand. I truly appreciate all you do. Jan S www.sweetprairiesoap.com soap & sundries wholesale/retail Collapsible Soap Molds in 2 sizes. jans@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 >Thanks so much for your invaluable help. Chemistry was never my strong >suite. If explained in layman terms I understand. >I truly appreciate all you do. In the final analysis, Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate from National Starch is safe to use. Some other realities that enter into the decision making. Although there is no hard data to support a link between Alzheimer's Disease and Aluminum, this is the perception in some peoples mind. I have used Dry Flo PC (INCI name Aluminum Starch Octenylsuccinate) in the past. Now I use Dry Flo AF (INCI name: Corn (Zea Mays) Starch Modified). BTW, the " AF " stands for Aluminum Free. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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