Re: Gel-like Liquid Soaps ???

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie & group,

Could you answer a question about the Conditioning Emulisfier that you sell?

When used in a clear liquid, will the resulting preparation be clear?

UltaMaize?

Thanks,

Pam

Nymphaea Soaps, Etc.

www.nymphaeasoap.com

Re: Gel-like Liquid Soaps ???

In a message dated 7/20/02 6:35:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

maurice@... writes:

> Would the Ultra Maize (all natural thickener from corn) work to form

> >a gel consistency if mixed into a liquid soap (using the usual oils

> >and KOH recipes)?

>

> What is " Ultra Maize " ? It's not listed in the CTFA Dictionary and I

> didn't get any hits from a Google search.

>

>

Hi Maurice and All,

UltraMaize is my name for the product, but the INCI name is:

Hydroxypropyl Starch Phosphate and it is made from cornstarch. It is a new

product that is a thickener/stabilizer for emulsions. It's a pretty neat

ingredient and can be added directly to (cold) a too-thin lotion to provide a

better consistency. I have used it to thicken an easy to make cold-mix

shampoo with the the polyglucose/lactylate blend that I sell---(Botanical

Rose Shampoo in the formulary). You can also use it as part of your overall

formula (see Botanical Rose Lotion in formulary). So, it is an interesting

ingredient that is somewhat unique.

As far as the liquid soap goes....I don't make liquid soap or use it or even

like it, but I do have some that I bought a while back. I have tried the

UltraMaize with it and it did not do a good job as a thickener. The

Conditioning Thickener-crothix that I have DID thicken it quite nicely. So,

I don't know that I would recommend the UltraMaize for liquid soap, but maybe

it would work in other liquid soaps??? The Conditioning Thickener-crothix is

worth a try too. Or you could switch to surfactants, which is my personal

favorite

Hope this helps. Have a good day!

Angie

The Herbarie...Visit us at: http://www.theherbarie.com for Body Care

Products and Bulk Ingredients...Botanical Extracts and Proteins, Ultra-Mild

Surfactant Blends, Conditioning Emulsifiers.

[Guest guest]

> UltraMaize is my name for the product

Hi Angie.

I know this is a common practice with resellers, but what is wrong with

calling it by the given name from the manufacturer so that people know what

it is and Maurice and others can answer questions about it?

Pat.

Peace, Joy, Serenity

House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc.

pat@...

http://www.houseofscents.com/