Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Amazing how healthcare providers spend years looking for answers that can easily be found from someone with a Master of Education degree who is performing an ARD. I believe I can stop learning now, as I have heard it all. Jeff Cunningham, DC Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 OMGosh! That is ridiculous! Unbelieveable! The thing that gets me the most is about the repetetive gestures not lasting long enough...I mean part of being a " spectrum " is the fact that every case is completely different and run from mild to severe. I would request an independent evaluation, I believe they have to pay for it too but I'm not sure on that. Contact the state board of education, they will be able to guide you on what to do next. wrote: Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Yes, that is why I haven't cancelled my appt with a pediatric psychiatrist at the end of April..I was told this would happen... Jeff Cunningham wrote: Amazing how healthcare providers spend years looking for answers that can easily be found from someone with a Master of Education degree who is performing an ARD. I believe I can stop learning now, as I have heard it all. Jeff Cunningham, DC Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Thanks....I already have an appt set up with a pediatric psychiatrist for the end of April... singin4mom wrote: OMGosh! That is ridiculous! Unbelieveable! The thing that gets me the most is about the repetetive gestures not lasting long enough...I mean part of being a " spectrum " is the fact that every case is completely different and run from mild to severe. I would request an independent evaluation, I believe they have to pay for it too but I'm not sure on that. Contact the state board of education, they will be able to guide you on what to do next. wrote: Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could not possibly be on the spectrum. Jeff Cunningham, DC Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Probably not, oh and if she makes any eye contact then she isn't either....or if she lets you touch her, or tries to communicate with you in any way...yeah....it is ridiculous Jeff Cunningham wrote: I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could not possibly be on the spectrum. Jeff Cunningham, DC Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 The school has to pay for it, but the specialist has to be approved I think.... On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM, kelly dawson wrote: > Probably not, oh and if she makes any eye contact then she isn't > either....or if she lets you touch her, or tries to communicate with you in > any way...yeah....it is ridiculous > > Jeff Cunningham <jeff@... <jeff%40jeffcunningham.org>> > wrote: I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will > probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there > are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money > would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children > rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder > what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could > not possibly be on the spectrum. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 He is the only pediatric psychiatrist that specializes in autism in the area from what I have heard, he is the best around.. Bonnie wrote: The school has to pay for it, but the specialist has to be approved I think.... On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM, kelly dawson wrote: > Probably not, oh and if she makes any eye contact then she isn't > either....or if she lets you touch her, or tries to communicate with you in > any way...yeah....it is ridiculous > > Jeff Cunningham <jeff@... <jeff%40jeffcunningham.org>> > wrote: I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will > probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there > are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money > would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children > rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder > what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could > not possibly be on the spectrum. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 who is the dr kelly dawson wrote: He is the only pediatric psychiatrist that specializes in autism in the area from what I have heard, he is the best around.. Bonnie wrote: The school has to pay for it, but the specialist has to be approved I think.... On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM, kelly dawson wrote: > Probably not, oh and if she makes any eye contact then she isn't > either....or if she lets you touch her, or tries to communicate with you in > any way...yeah....it is ridiculous > > Jeff Cunningham <jeff@... <jeff%40jeffcunningham.org>> > wrote: I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will > probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there > are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money > would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children > rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder > what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could > not possibly be on the spectrum. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 kapali Leigh-Ann wrote: who is the dr kelly dawson wrote: He is the only pediatric psychiatrist that specializes in autism in the area from what I have heard, he is the best around.. Bonnie wrote: The school has to pay for it, but the specialist has to be approved I think.... On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM, kelly dawson wrote: > Probably not, oh and if she makes any eye contact then she isn't > either....or if she lets you touch her, or tries to communicate with you in > any way...yeah....it is ridiculous > > Jeff Cunningham <jeff@... <jeff%40jeffcunningham.org>> > wrote: I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will > probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there > are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money > would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children > rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder > what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could > not possibly be on the spectrum. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 dr k kelly dawson wrote: kapali Leigh-Ann wrote: who is the dr kelly dawson wrote: He is the only pediatric psychiatrist that specializes in autism in the area from what I have heard, he is the best around.. Bonnie wrote: The school has to pay for it, but the specialist has to be approved I think.... On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM, kelly dawson wrote: > Probably not, oh and if she makes any eye contact then she isn't > either....or if she lets you touch her, or tries to communicate with you in > any way...yeah....it is ridiculous > > Jeff Cunningham <jeff@... <jeff%40jeffcunningham.org>> > wrote: I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will > probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there > are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money > would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children > rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder > what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could > not possibly be on the spectrum. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 he is good rt? Leigh-Ann wrote: dr k kelly dawson wrote: kapali Leigh-Ann wrote: who is the dr kelly dawson wrote: He is the only pediatric psychiatrist that specializes in autism in the area from what I have heard, he is the best around.. Bonnie wrote: The school has to pay for it, but the specialist has to be approved I think.... On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:13 PM, kelly dawson wrote: > Probably not, oh and if she makes any eye contact then she isn't > either....or if she lets you touch her, or tries to communicate with you in > any way...yeah....it is ridiculous > > Jeff Cunningham <jeff@... <jeff%40jeffcunningham.org>> > wrote: I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will > probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there > are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money > would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children > rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder > what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could > not possibly be on the spectrum. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I guess we'll be moving to Lubbock for the cure. Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > > ------------------------------------ > > Texas Autism Advocacy > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > Texas Disability Network > Calendar of Events > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 The family can use whatever specialist that they like. It doens't have to be a MD ped. psych. It can be a NP, or in my case I will be treating them myself at the parents' requests. Most school districts are pretty good about listening to someone who has knowledge of this and will back off once a diagnosis is rendered using DSM IV criteria. And, regardless of what any of the school M.Ed. geniuses say, the DSM IV is not limited to the MD's. NP's can render the diagnosis. Ph.D. psychologists are also qualified within their scope of practice, which of course is significant in the area of ASD's. The school does not have to pay for your appointments with the psych or NP or whatever you want to use. They only have to pay if THEY request it. They can request it from whomever they want. If you disagree with their assessment, you have many options of appeal up to and including having an attorney ad litem appointed and going to federal court after all state remedies are exhausted. My guess is that they will fold like a cheap card table long before you get to that stage. You are in a town with a major university and I can tell you that my experience is that the universities do NOT kiss up to the local school districts. The psych that they chose in NE Texas turned out to be a really good fellow that refused to be owned by anyone. His evaluation was comprehensive and realistic. It gave a view of my daughter that the school could not refute. One thing that I must say here that will make some people sad. A child just doesn't " get over " ASD. Successful treatment will minimize the symptoms, as in the case of my daughter (using DAN protocols). She is definitely to the point of about 1/2 a day of mainstream schooling, in spite of her special needs. This is the goal. This is what I have been working for. This is why I am going back into practice after thinking I was going to do administrative work for the rest of my life. Getting a child to live a rather normal existence is a GOOD thing. But it does NOT mean the child is cured. There are a multitude of theories and some of them are valid and some are crackpot, but anything that makes a child function better is a good treatment so long as it doesn't hurt the child. Our family has reached a spot in our lives that we never thought possible, using the DAN system. But schools do not understand the difference between a " cure " for autism and the successful treatment. Now is your chance to educate the educators. Your child sounds to be improving, but our kids will not be without challenges any time soon. It took me 8 years to accept that. Now the rest of my career will be spent hopefully preventing the agony that so many of our families have gone through before getting some answers. Best of luck to you and stick to your guns. Jeff Cunningham, DC Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Wow, so I guess my son isn't either! My son who has been diagnosed with mild Aspergers often makes eye contact but when he's upset often doesn't. He usually doesn't mind being touched but sometimes he does. I know if things don't start getting better at my son's school I'm going to have to take him to a ped. psych too. His behavior in school was going really well until he was evaluated and they started all of their " interventions " for him to help him. Now his behavior at school the last couple of months has been getting progressively worse and his teacher is trying to say that the last Thursday he was at school when his behavior was apparently really bad was because I had come in to help out in the class room earlier in the day and that made it worse....yeah, right. kelly dawson wrote: Probably not, oh and if she makes any eye contact then she isn't either....or if she lets you touch her, or tries to communicate with you in any way...yeah....it is ridiculous Jeff Cunningham wrote: I suppose since you are still going to go to the psych, I will probably not cancel my trip to the DAN conference in April. However, there are 2 major universities who have education schools nearby. Perhaps my money would be better spent taking a M.Ed. and doing ARDs about their children rather than doing continuing education for the rest of my life. I wonder what they would say about my PDD-NOS daughter? Well, she is a girl, so could not possibly be on the spectrum. Jeff Cunningham, DC Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 The reason they retested her they said was to be able to model a better therapy and I really think now it is so they could stop giving her therapy..like OT and to get her out of the special ed classroom..they have been trying to do this for months, since she transitioned from eci to special ed...she was diagnosed originally with mild to moderate autism..and now the school says she is cured because she doesn't avoid eye contact(she rarely did to begin with)...and because she doesn't need assistance so much anymore with stairs...what do stairs and autism have in common? and because the few times the LSP went to the classroom her behaviors didn't last long enough...I will still take her to her appt, but will the school even accept what her dr says, since they didn't accept her original dr's dx? Mouser wrote: I guess we'll be moving to Lubbock for the cure. Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > > ------------------------------------ > > Texas Autism Advocacy > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > Texas Disability Network > Calendar of Events > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 That is what they told me about my youngest son, they he may nt even hve autism enymore, so they remove the aid for a little while, cause the teacher though he was getting to attach to her, so they did, and suddenly he start to show regression and bad behavior.... they had a little ooooopsie =)... Aid is back now, and he still autistic of course until they decide he may had being cure (Jackie rolls eyes) Amazing how healthcare providers spend years looking for answers that can easily be found from someone with a Master of Education degree who is performing an ARD. I believe I can stop learning now, as I have heard it all. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 wow...so they are all just stupid....it's just irritating that they make you feel that it is your fault because the school can just fix the child and at home the child is so bad...or that is what they make it seem... CH wrote: That is what they told me about my youngest son, they he may nt even hve autism enymore, so they remove the aid for a little while, cause the teacher though he was getting to attach to her, so they did, and suddenly he start to show regression and bad behavior.... they had a little ooooopsie =)... Aid is back now, and he still autistic of course until they decide he may had being cure (Jackie rolls eyes) Amazing how healthcare providers spend years looking for answers that can easily be found from someone with a Master of Education degree who is performing an ARD. I believe I can stop learning now, as I have heard it all. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Where in the DSM-IV does it stipulate how long behaviors are supposed to last to qualify for the DX? I searched all through my copy and can't find a criteria for that. My son was also originally diagnosed by a school district at age 3 and then after we moved to another school district, the then Chief Psychologist (not the current one) said to me " Your child's not autistic, he's cured " to which I replied, " well hallelujah! By moving 17 miles north into this district, I can cure my child's autism! I should have done this sooner! " His response was " That's not what I meant. " mine was " No, THAT'S what you SAID! " yeah, well it's been pretty litigious ever since. I recommend you get with the Special Education Director at your District and ask what are the specific tests, protocols and qualifications of the evaluator they will accept for the evaluation to be performed. You may have to arrange for the evaluator to observe your child in the classroom setting as well as during unstructured time like recess, I would make these arrangements as far in advance as possible with the Sped Director. You may also want to arrange for the evaluator to observe your child at home to look at behaviors and unstructured time at home as well. Cover as many of the bases as you can so that when you return to ARD, the District members of the committee cannot refute any of the findings. BUT REMEMBER! ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS CONSIDER THE INDEPENDENT EVALUATION! THEY DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT IT! (Even though they paid for it!) They can still go with theirs as the evaluation they choose to use in developing your child's IEP. Hope this helps! Carol --- kelly dawson wrote: > The reason they retested her they said was to be > able to model a better therapy and I really think > now it is so they could stop giving her > therapy..like OT and to get her out of the special > ed classroom..they have been trying to do this for > months, since she transitioned from eci to special > ed...she was diagnosed originally with mild to > moderate autism..and now the school says she is > cured because she doesn't avoid eye contact(she > rarely did to begin with)...and because she doesn't > need assistance so much anymore with stairs...what > do stairs and autism have in common? and because > the few times the LSP went to the classroom her > behaviors didn't last long enough...I will still > take her to her appt, but will the school even > accept what her dr says, since they didn't accept > her original dr's dx? > > Mouser wrote: I > guess we'll be moving to Lubbock for the cure. > > > Lubbock ISD cured > my daughter's Autism > > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now > she doesn't have > > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that > her repetetive > > gestures don't last long enough and her > " meltdowns " are just bad > > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and > so the teachers and > > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she > doesn't fall into the > > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been > told that the school > > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the > speech delayed and > > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just > thought I may suggest > > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, > yes... > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > > > Texas Disability Network > > Calendar of Events > > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Wow, that sounds so much like what is happening with my kindergartener now, only they haven't tried to tell me he's not autistic. My sons behavior in the classroom, while the evaluation process was going on, was getting better and he was doing very well. Then he gets a diagnosis (mild Aspergers) he gets an IEP and an aid and in the last couple of months his behavior has been taking a downward spiral. The last month has been especially bad. What have I noticed when I go in to help in the classroom with kid writing? His aid that used to come in and help him with kid writing is now not coming for kid writing because they have another teacher in the class to help with several " problem " kids, not just my son. Well, my Nick see's this new guy as a replacement for his aid, even though he's not assigned to Nick, and Nick doesn't like it. Several times when I would come in he would be giving this guy a hard time and having meltdowns. Then the behavior would last throughout the day. Gee, doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the change is causing him stress. I have told them his behavior is not worse at home, only at school so that tells me something isn't being handled right since things have gone so badly. Oh, and get this, the autistic support teacher says that Nick needs to learn to just go with the flow sometimes. Gee, ya think? Okay, I'll tell Nick, who is extremely resistant to change and when he's having a meltdown that he just needs to learn to go with the flow, that should solve the problem. UGH! You think we can just get him used to attending school for a few years before we start working so much on the " going with the flow " aspect? CH wrote: That is what they told me about my youngest son, they he may nt even hve autism enymore, so they remove the aid for a little while, cause the teacher though he was getting to attach to her, so they did, and suddenly he start to show regression and bad behavior.... they had a little ooooopsie =)... Aid is back now, and he still autistic of course until they decide he may had being cure (Jackie rolls eyes) Amazing how healthcare providers spend years looking for answers that can easily be found from someone with a Master of Education degree who is performing an ARD. I believe I can stop learning now, as I have heard it all. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hi ladies..I am in the McKinney School District and my son is now 10. He was diagnosed PDD-NOS by the district when he was 3. More testing done when he entered Kinder and he was diagnosed Moderate/Severe Autism and was placed in a STC (structured teach) classroom. We slowly worked him into the gen. ed classroom as he continued to show improvement. When he was 8, we had his annual testing and ARD where we were informed he was NO LONGER autistic.(say what!?)..he has been in a general ed classroom since without an aide and only Resource for support (and he still qualified for speech) so it has been slightly rough with some meltdowns...And my son is most certainly in the Spectrum..But he continues to " grow " in many ways.but we are losing our support as we come closer to the middle school years. Re: Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism Where in the DSM-IV does it stipulate how long behaviors are supposed to last to qualify for the DX? I searched all through my copy and can't find a criteria for that. My son was also originally diagnosed by a school district at age 3 and then after we moved to another school district, the then Chief Psychologist (not the current one) said to me " Your child's not autistic, he's cured " to which I replied, " well hallelujah! By moving 17 miles north into this district, I can cure my child's autism! I should have done this sooner! " His response was " That's not what I meant. " mine was " No, THAT'S what you SAID! " yeah, well it's been pretty litigious ever since. I recommend you get with the Special Education Director at your District and ask what are the specific tests, protocols and qualifications of the evaluator they will accept for the evaluation to be performed. You may have to arrange for the evaluator to observe your child in the classroom setting as well as during unstructured time like recess, I would make these arrangements as far in advance as possible with the Sped Director. You may also want to arrange for the evaluator to observe your child at home to look at behaviors and unstructured time at home as well. Cover as many of the bases as you can so that when you return to ARD, the District members of the committee cannot refute any of the findings. BUT REMEMBER! ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS CONSIDER THE INDEPENDENT EVALUATION! THEY DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT IT! (Even though they paid for it!) They can still go with theirs as the evaluation they choose to use in developing your child's IEP. Hope this helps! Carol --- kelly dawson <kelly_dawson75@ <mailto:kelly_dawson75%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com> wrote: > The reason they retested her they said was to be > able to model a better therapy and I really think > now it is so they could stop giving her > therapy..like OT and to get her out of the special > ed classroom..they have been trying to do this for > months, since she transitioned from eci to special > ed...she was diagnosed originally with mild to > moderate autism..and now the school says she is > cured because she doesn't avoid eye contact(she > rarely did to begin with)...and because she doesn't > need assistance so much anymore with stairs...what > do stairs and autism have in common? and because > the few times the LSP went to the classroom her > behaviors didn't last long enough...I will still > take her to her appt, but will the school even > accept what her dr says, since they didn't accept > her original dr's dx? > > Mouser <ginaamsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:ginaam%40sbcglobal.net> net> wrote: I > guess we'll be moving to Lubbock for the cure. > > > Lubbock ISD cured > my daughter's Autism > > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now > she doesn't have > > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that > her repetetive > > gestures don't last long enough and her > " meltdowns " are just bad > > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and > so the teachers and > > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she > doesn't fall into the > > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been > told that the school > > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the > speech delayed and > > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just > thought I may suggest > > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, > yes... > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > > > Texas Disability Network > > Calendar of Events > > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 My school won't even admit my son has a child psychologist diagnosis of PDD-NOS, so yeah, it's not an isolated problem- and that's scary. Anne -- Re: Re: Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism wow...so they are all just stupid....it's just irritating that they make you feel that it is your fault because the school can just fix the child and at home the child is so bad...or that is what they make it seem... CH wrote: That is what they told me about my youngest son, they he may nt even hve autism enymore, so they remove the aid for a little while, cause the teacher though he was getting to attach to her, so they did, and suddenly he start to show regression and bad behavior.... they had a little ooooopsie =)... Aid is back now, and he still autistic of course until they decide he may had being cure (Jackie rolls eyes) Amazing how healthcare providers spend years looking for answers that can easily be found from someone with a Master of Education degree who is performing an ARD. I believe I can stop learning now, as I have heard it all. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 And to think that I have been homeschooling for the past 11 years because I thought it was going to be better for my son. He could have been cured by now. Your experience is similar to mine when my son was younger. I didn't have the time or patience for the battle, and chose to teach my son myself. We really have fun together. I would recommend it to anyone. We are all either fight or flight. I guess I was flight. Good Luck Pat > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Wow, I must move there immediately. It is the holy grail of ISD's. This is all just shocking. > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Oh, and Universities, Researchers and Scientists all over the world are spending hundreds of millions of dollars to find a medical cure for Autism, when a Principal, Teacher and Psychologist for Lubbock ISD have already medically cured your kid. Amazing how healthcare providers spend years looking for answers that can easily be found from someone with a Master of Education degree who is performing an ARD. I believe I can stop learning now, as I have heard it all. > > Jeff Cunningham, DC > Lubbock ISD cured my daughter's Autism > > Lubbock ISD has re evaluated my daughter and now she doesn't have > Autism anymore...worded in their document is that her repetetive > gestures don't last long enough and her " meltdowns " are just bad > behaviors used at home to get what she wants...and so the teachers and > LSP have decided with their re=evals that she doesn't fall into the > brackets on their tests for Autism, I had been told that the school > would do this...oh but she does still fit into the speech delayed and > socially underdeveloped category...anyway...just thought I may suggest > LISD for those looking for a cure...sarcasm, yes... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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