Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Thanks. He sounds good then, as I think there are quite of few of us that need that TSH suppressed, as well in order to feel well. And, the fact that he was willing to work with you to get you there is a very good thing IMHO. Does he also look at and/or treat adrenals or other hormonal imbalances? B > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH suppressed > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary problem that > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy to our > > lives). > > > > Thanks, > > B. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Never mind my ? - I just saw the answer in your other post. > > > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > suppressed > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary problem > that > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy to > our > > > lives). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > B. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Sorry for double posts - either my hands are very heavy this afternoon or Yahoo is acting funky. > > > > > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > > suppressed > > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary > problem > > that > > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy > to > > our > > > > lives). > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > B. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Never mind my ? - I just saw the answer in your other post. > > > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > suppressed > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary problem > that > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy to > our > > > lives). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > B. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 That is great! Thank you for sharing! -> To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups > Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:35 +0000> Subject: Re: update on me> > I posted Dr. Heald's info. on the database awhile back so his address > is Bedford on the database but they have since moved their office to > grapevine. I'll post the new address as soon as I find it. It is off of > 121 near the Rd. exit. The phone number is the same. The > practice is Leading Edge Medicine and he is the assistant to > Dr. Perkins. I found Dr. Heald's info. on Shomon's website of top > docs. He, at that time, was practicing in Keller but left that group > (for good reason but I'll leave that to his discretion to share). Prior > to that he was working at an endicronologist's office in Plano (can't > remember that doc's name but she was on Shomon's top doc list as > well). There he saw a lot of thyroid patients and really spent some > time listening to his patients and trying to understand this disease.> I like him b/c he listened to me, calls in between visits when > something comes up, and takes the time to explain things. What I also > like about him is that he stressed that treatment is individualized. > The down fall is the wait, not to get in for an appointment, but the > time I've waited at his office. He does spend time with his patients, > so appointments can get backed up and you end up waiting for awhile. > The plus side is you get that same attention during your visit. I'm not > sure how comprehensive he is, whether or not he deals with adrenals and > so forth, because I hadn't need to go there. But my impression of him > is that he's open-minded, I just don't know his scope of knowledge on > those areas. Hope that is helpful.> > > > >> > > > So good to hear that you are feeling better! Do you have any > other information on Dr. Heald for others on the board that are in his > area?> > > > -> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/> >> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 this is the question I have..My TSH is very suppressed on a lower dose - 2.5 gr. armour and a tiny bi t of T4; My symptoms are not totally gone. My T4 and T3 are in the midrange. TSH last time was 0.02! The doctors don't like to add anymore with my numbers for sure. That's why I am looking into what is keeping my thyroid from using the medication it is being given optimally....mercury? I started taking rhodiola - it is an adaptagen that helps the hormones work better together. it has helped! I am still going to do the chelation challenge, but I am also going to get a another opinion before I start actual chelation. thanks steph Re: update on me Never mind my ? - I just saw the answer in your other post. > > > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > suppressed > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary problem > that > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy to > our > > > lives). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > B. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Mid-range is not optimal for everyone. And TSH is not a very good indicator of thyroid levels once you are on meds. Have you not been able to tolerate a higher dose? If so, you might want to be looking for reasons for your intolerance. You may or may not need chelation. I would suggest that you think about my favorite surgery: a radical doctor-ectomy! Docs who insist on seeing any measurable TSH may be leaving many folks undermedicated. I have a problem with docs who would rather prescribe a bunch of supplements than give adequate thyroid hormone. . . . . > > > >> > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > > suppressed > > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary > problem > > that > > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy > to > > our > > > > lives). > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I have not been able to tolerate anymore thyroid. What are some reasons why someone cannot tolerate thyroid? Re: update on me Mid-range is not optimal for everyone. And TSH is not a very good indicator of thyroid levels once you are on meds. Have you not been able to tolerate a higher dose? If so, you might want to be looking for reasons for your intolerance. You may or may not need chelation. I would suggest that you think about my favorite surgery: a radical doctor-ectomy! Docs who insist on seeing any measurable TSH may be leaving many folks undermedicated. I have a problem with docs who would rather prescribe a bunch of supplements than give adequate thyroid hormone. . . . . > > > > > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > > suppressed > > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary > problem > > that > > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy > to > > our > > > > lives). > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > B. Find phone numbers fast with the New AOL Yellow Pages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 The two most common reasons for thyroid hormone intolerance are low ferritin and low cortisol. Sex hormones may also play a role. Ditto for certain B vitamins. > >> > this is the question I have..My TSH is very suppressed on a lower dose - 2.5 gr. armour and a tiny bi t of T4; My symptoms are not totally gone.? My? T4 and T3 are in the midrange.? TSH last time was 0.02!? The doctors don't like to add anymore with my numbers for sure.? That's why I am looking into what is keeping my thyroid from using the medication it is being given optimally....mercury?> > > > I started taking rhodiola - it is an adaptagen that helps the hormones work better together.? it has helped!? I am still going to do the chelation challenge, but I am also going to get a another opinion before I start actual chelation.> > > > thanks> > steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I have had a difficult time tolerating dosage increases past this point. in august my free t3 was 338 range 230-420 - so it was a tad bid above mid range. they didn't take free t4 not sure why -t hey took t4 total - is that a relevant test? it was 6.5 range 4.5-12.5 cortisol am 13.2 range 4.0-22.0 cortisol pm 10.6 range 3.0-17.0 total estrogen was 65 range for postmenopausal less than 130 testosterone 63 range 20076 dhea 166 range 15-170 (this one surprised me!) he did not take progesterone - not sure why the only thing out of range were several tests for ebv antibodies I think this is why Dr. Manzanero and current doc are recommending chelation. They feel that the mercury is part of the intolerance picture. I am going to at least do the challenge and see if I have a lot of mercury showing up. thanks steph Re: update on me Mid-range is not optimal for everyone. And TSH is not a very good indicator of thyroid levels once you are on meds. Have you not been able to tolerate a higher dose? If so, you might want to be looking for reasons for your intolerance. You may or may not need chelation. I would suggest that you think about my favorite surgery: a radical doctor-ectomy! Docs who insist on seeing any measurable TSH may be leaving many folks undermedicated. I have a problem with docs who would rather prescribe a bunch of supplements than give adequate thyroid hormone. . . . . > > > > > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > > suppressed > > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary > problem > > that > > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy > to > > our > > > > lives). > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > B. Find phone numbers fast with the New AOL Yellow Pages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Oops! testosterone 63 - range 20-76! sorry Re: update on me Mid-range is not optimal for everyone. And TSH is not a very good indicator of thyroid levels once you are on meds. Have you not been able to tolerate a higher dose? If so, you might want to be looking for reasons for your intolerance. You may or may not need chelation. I would suggest that you think about my favorite surgery: a radical doctor-ectomy! Docs who insist on seeing any measurable TSH may be leaving many folks undermedicated. I have a problem with docs who would rather prescribe a bunch of supplements than give adequate thyroid hormone. . . . . > > > > > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > > suppressed > > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary > problem > > that > > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy > to > > our > > > > lives). > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > B. Find phone numbers fast with the New AOL Yellow Pages! Find phone numbers fast with the New AOL Yellow Pages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 You really need to know what the Free T4 is. My TSH was suppressed (.05 for a range of .5-5.5) and my Free T4 was just .1 above the lower end of the range and I was on the equivalent of over 5 grains of Armour. I need my Free T4 around midrange to get rid of the brain fog - there's one school of thought that the T3 doesn't cross the blood brain barrier and some T4 is known to get converted to T3 in the brain. My experience has been that while detoxing will help resolve some of the lingering symptoms (for me fatigue, muscle aches and nerve issues were the biggies), it did result in my needing less T3 (but that was lowering from 120 mcg to 75 mcg per day), but I still need a fair amount of the T4 and ANYTIME I've tried lowering, I begin to crater. So, IMHO, since you can't tolerate more Armour (I was allergic to it), my suggestion would be to get the Free T4 measured and if it's not midrange, ask about increasing your T4. B. > > > > > > > > > > One question about this doc and your labs? Is your TSH > > > suppressed > > > > > and if so, does it bother this doc? That's the primary > > problem > > > that > > > > > some of us have once we reach an optimal dose (in terms of > > > > > resolution of many, many symptoms and the return of normalcy > > to > > > our > > > > > lives). > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > B. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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