Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 >I want to make a gentle bubble bath that isn't terribly expensive. > >On hand I have > >Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate blend (the Herbarie) >Decyl Glucoside, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate blend (the herbarie) >Jordapon Prilled Surfactant >Polysorbate20 >Amphosol CG Surfactantÿÿ >Hand made liquid KOH soap >Turkey red oil >glycerin >preservatives >crothix thickener > > >I have other stuff too, but this looks like what I might need. Is this what I need. Am I missing an important part? Will these surfactants make a good bubble bath? > >I've been doing searches all night for some formulas and not having much luck. Seems most web sites use a bubble bath base. Have you looked on Angie's website? Here's one for a Moisturizing Bath Gel http://www.theherbarie.com/herbarie-formulary.html#Bath That formula uses Angie's " Cocobetaine Blend " (Cocamidopropyl Betaine and Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate). Then try the same formula, but replace the the " Cocobetaine Blend " with Angie's " Polyglucose Blend " (Decyl Glucoside and Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate). I have no idea what will happen. You'll have to experiment. Most commercial bubble baths use 2 or 3 mole Sodium Laureth Sulfate as their key surfactant. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2002 Report Share Posted September 13, 2002 In a message dated 9/13/02 9:04:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cathy@... writes: > hahaha Angie, I lay awake at night dreaming up different combos. > Hi and All, Well, I'm glad that I am not the only one > > My problem is I am not very well versed with all the different surfactants > and what > >> > I will try that 50/50 combo. True! There are so many different surfactants with many different characteristics. I think it can be tricky. > Another combo I've been tinkering with is using my hand made liquid soap > (one batch makes so much) and thickening it with crothix for a bath " gel " > wash. I have my husband testing it out. > So, does the crothix thicken your soap? I have customers that make liquid soap that are always wanting to know. I have only tried it in one liquid soap and it worked beautifully, but don't know if it works in others. > I also was fiddling with a carboner gel...trying to make a bath gel. I added > a surfactant to the clear carboner gel, but it seemed to collapse. Now I am > wondering about salts in the surfactants. I think (notes are in another > room) I used amphosalCG for that...not cocobetaine or polyglucose blend... > maybe surfactants and carboners don't like each other? > The Polyglucose and the Cocobetaine Blends don't work well with carbomers and salt will not thicken them either---sorry! The UltraMaize is an excellent thickener for either of them though....or the crothix that you already have. Keep us posted on your results! Angie The Herbarie...Visit us at: http://www.theherbarie.com for Body Care Products and Bulk Ingredients...Botanical Extracts and Proteins, Ultra-Mild Surfactant Blends, Conditioning Emulsifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2002 Report Share Posted September 13, 2002 >As Maurice said, most bubble bath on the market has sodium laureth sulfate or >sodium lauryl sulfate as the primary surfactant because they create lots of >foam/bubbles.ÿ But I wouldn't choose to use either for a bubble bath.ÿ I haven't seen Sodium Lauryl Sulfate used much in Bubble Baths. However, two and three mole Sodium Laureth Sulfate are standard fare. I use a blend of Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine and Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate. This is a very mild blend. >I was playing around with the C >12-15 alkyl benzoate to make a sprayable lotion milk the other day (with some >good results)......well, the day was busy and long....and I got tired and >decided to take a nice relaxing bath.ÿ So, I took my small batch of " milk " , >mixed in a little NatraBath with eo and poured it into the bath.....very >nice!ÿ You've got a dispersable bath oil. Make it thicker and add some milk solids and you could call it a " milk bath cream " or just " bath cream " . You could market the product in little milk bottles. >Now, I am wondering if the C 12-15 alkyl benzoate is recommended for >use in a bath--Maurice?ÿ If so, I may " officially " experiment with it this >way ÿ I am also thinking surfactants could be added to make it more foamy, >but still conditioning.ÿ Lots of ideas, so little time If you use too much " surfactant " you may not get the emollient effect. Using Cocamidopropyl Betaine should give you a nice feel. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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