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A Good Read!

http://www.mercola.com/2001/mar/17/garlic_infections.htm

God Bless!

Sheela.

In a message dated 3/17/01 10:33:56 AM Central Standard Time, moriam@... writes:

Hi Judie,

Garlic is used for lots of things, and is quite a strong herb.

"The Encyclopedia of Medicinal Plants" ( Chevallier) lists its

main "key actions" as: antibiotic, expectorant, increases sweating,

lowers blood pressure, reduces blood clotting, antidiabetic, and

expels worms.

"Garlic has always been esteemed for its healing powers and before the development of antibiotics it was a treatment for all manner of infections,

from tuberculosis to typhoid. It was also used to dress wounds in the

First World War."

There is lots more. Check most any herb book. I also have 1 or 2 books

just about garlic--- I think one is available at the HFS where I shop.

Moria :)

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and let us not forget it moblizes mercury.

[ ] Orchids and Garlic

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> Did anyone else catch this on a small health segment on TV last week?

> There was a doctor growing orchids, the orchids fell diseased to fungus.

> He used fresh squeezed garlic on the orchids, it killed the fungus and the

> flowers became healthy. He took the garlic to the hospital and gave the

> children, who were resistant to antibiotics and treatments fresh squeezed

> garlic juice several time a day in their bottle or drink. None like the

> taste of it, but all were improving.

> Judie Forehand

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Yes, I was going to try this. Has anyone tried this recipe and how do you use

it?

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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:59 AM

Subject: Re: garlic

How about " Pickled Garlic " on p. 96?

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, I wanted to Thank you for taking over Saline Support. Even though, I

currently still have my implants, I find your information very insightful.

Keep up the good work and maybe one day " soon " you will bring more Lurker's

like myself into the loop.

It seems as if you and I have a lot in common with our work out schedules, I

am currently training for a biathlon and a marathon (despite the RA). I am

still on the meth but I don't take it nearly as much as they recommend.

During December I was off completely.

I called the Catholic Church yesterday and I am considering changing my

faith. Maybe, I will find the strength I need to have the implants removed in

August when I begin my RCIA.... or is it RICA???

Keep up the good work and keep in touch.

Kristy

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From: " Lulu " <demi111@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Beliefs and Cleansing

Don't worry about smelling like garlic, folks......as Dr. Schulze says, if

you think the smell of garlic is bad, you should consider the smell of

cancer. His point was that garlic is a very potent anticarcinogen....Betsy

> And here I am today not smelling like garlic even though I ate 3 cloves

today and I know this cuz people tell me I don't.....what this has to do

with this thread....well maybe only that some don't try something because

they have a belief about it.

> Peace

> Lu

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I have read that also - that 2 good sized cloves a day, taken raw (by

themselves or in a salad or on a sandwich perhaps?) or in a juice is a good

'dosage'.

I think you're right in that too much garlic can cause some problem It might

be irritation to the stomach lining, perhaps? If I come across anything

definitive I will post it.

By the way, I just finished making up my first batch of the SuperTonic. I

got tired of grating by the time I finished with the ginger, so I decided

that I would just put everything through the juicer and then put the juice

and pulp in the jar. Do you think that's okay? I didn't think it could

hurt it any. But I'll tell you - I had to walk away from the juicer at least

a dozen time and head for an open window. :) (still have tears in my eyes

and my sinuses are as clear as could be!!) Definitely potent stuff. It

turned out that I didn't have a glass jar big enough to hold it all, so right

now it's in a couple of smaller ones. I'm going to head out to see if I can

find a REALLY big glass jar somewhere!

rachel~

In a message dated 3/15/02 6:50:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cozad76078@... writes:

> I need to use more Garlic after reading s post. That was a great

> testimony. I have tons and do use it, but need to start putting it in the

> press and then into capsules to take with my food. NOW, here's a question.

> Somewhere I read that too much garlic (raw) does something bad, like maybe

> be to strong for the stomach (creating ulcers), or stripping something from

> the system. I know it is a wonderful gift, but want to use the right

> amount. I think 2 good sized cloves daily fresh squeezed would be good.

> of Dewberry Hill

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride

it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill

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Yes - I guess we have been pretty verbal today, eh? :) As for the garlic,

(maybe I said this already? I forget...) I crushed it with a knife and

then cut that up. So it's pretty close to the condition of the garlic press.

(so why don't I just use the press??) I'm getting the hang of just taking

the garlic straight. It doesn't seem to bother my stomach, either, for which

I'm grateful.

As for the tonic - the instructions actually say to grate the ginger and

horseradish and to chop the onions, garlic and hot peppers and to pour the

Apple Cider Vinegar over that. I sort of just took the lazy way out in

sending them all through the juicer. I washed the juicer and soaked it,

too, but I'll still be interested to see if there's any extra flavor to my

apple juice in the morning! lol

rachel~

cozad76078@... writes:

> Looks like we're burnin' up the board today, girlfrien'! If KJ is listenin'

> in, ya can press garlic in the garlic press and quickly stuff some in

> gelatin capsules before they melt. A chopstick helps or a fork tong. And

> even if the cap won't go on all the way, that helps cut the taste by

> swallowing with liquid at meals. I feel the crushed garlic is easier to

> assimilate. Oh ! that tonic sounds wonderful...I've got the recipe

> and will make some too when I get the horseradish. You use fresh root? And

> that's a great idea to put the pulp back in the jar. You're so creative.

> What a bunch of neat folks on these lists. of Dewberry

> Hill

>

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride

it, but in the end there it is. " Winston Churchill

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2 a day is just fine. Garlic won't mess up the intestinal flora in fact

encourages the health of the intestinal tract. I would think that too much of

anything is not going to be good for any body....we can even get too much

water...lol. I have not seen anything about garlic stripping any nutrients

from the body. Eastern philosphy they believe too much of the onion family

creates too much desire so they don't recommend to use much of the onion family

at all...that is about the only thing I have read about garlic in the nay.

Peace

Lu

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From: of Dewberry Hill

gallstones

Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 5:48 PM

Subject: Garlic

I need to use more Garlic after reading s post. That was a great

testimony. I have tons and do use it, but need to start putting it in the press

and then into capsules to take with my food. NOW, here's a question. Somewhere I

read that too much garlic (raw) does something bad, like maybe be to strong for

the stomach (creating ulcers), or stripping something from the system. I know it

is a wonderful gift, but want to use the right amount. I think 2 good sized

cloves daily fresh squeezed would be good. of Dewberry Hill

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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Looks like we're burnin' up the board today, girlfrien'! If KJ is listenin' in,

ya can press garlic in the garlic press and quickly stuff some in gelatin

capsules before they melt. A chopstick helps or a fork tong. And even if the cap

won't go on all the way, that helps cut the taste by swallowing with liquid at

meals. I feel the crushed garlic is easier to assimilate. Oh ! that tonic

sounds wonderful...I've got the recipe and will make some too when I get the

horseradish. You use fresh root? And that's a great idea to put the pulp back in

the jar. You're so creative. What a bunch of neat folks on these lists.

of Dewberry Hill

I have read that also - that 2 good sized cloves a day, taken raw (by

themselves or in a salad or on a sandwich perhaps?) or in a juice is a good

'dosage'.

I think you're right in that too much garlic can cause some problem It might

be irritation to the stomach lining, perhaps? If I come across anything

definitive I will post it.

By the way, I just finished making up my first batch of the SuperTonic. I

got tired of grating by the time I finished with the ginger, so I decided

that I would just put everything through the juicer and then put the juice

and pulp in the jar. Do you think that's okay? I didn't think it could

hurt it any. But I'll tell you - I had to walk away from the juicer at least

a dozen time and head for an open window. :) (still have tears in my eyes

and my sinuses are as clear as could be!!) Definitely potent stuff. It

turned out that I didn't have a glass jar big enough to hold it all, so right

now it's in a couple of smaller ones. I'm going to head out to see if I can

find a REALLY big glass jar somewhere!

rachel~

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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Lu said: too much of the onion family creates too much desire so they don't

recommend to use much of the onion family at all...

Ok, now I know what to do ;-) my husband gets less onions for breakfast! LOL,

of DH

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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said: I'm getting the hang of just taking

the garlic straight. It doesn't seem to bother my stomach, ...

Ooooh! you one tough cookie. I'll opt for the gel caps! of DH

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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> Hello Francesca,

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> Do you eat a lot more garlic as a result of your CR protocol?

>

> Bob

I've always loved garlic. I don't know if I'm necessarily eating more. But

when exposed to a cold or flu, I do nuke a couple of cloves in the microwave

for 1/2 minute or so as a possible " antidote " . Garlic is supposed to be

antiviral/antibacterial, which is probably why you're inquiring about it.

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Hi Jay.

Wow! Thanks for the info and link....it will keep me busy for awhile ;-)

Adrienne

JayTownsend@... wrote: <<Do you know if odorless garlic( in capsule form)

is just as effective?

Adrienne>>

I have two books on garlic that were written in the mid-1990s. Each of them

talks about research done in Japan with cold processed garlic tablets, and

that research sometimes indicates that those supplements are equivalent to

raw garlic. I have seen other information that indicates that most of the

time, raw garlic comes out better than the cold processed. From what I can

find, Japan has done the most research with garlic for medicinal purposes.

They have done extensive university level studies, and they promote their own

brands of cold processed garlic. With that in mind, I will mention the brand

name " Kyolic " which is heavily promoted as better than raw. I simply don't

believe that. Kyolic is very expensive and t is my personal opinion that any

cold-processed garlic tablet is similar to Kyolic, and better than those that

do not display the cold process on their label. I live near Costco and

sometimes I think I live in Costco, but they carry at least two brands of

cold processed garlic, including Nature Made. I always check Costco first

before I go to a health food store. But if you want a little hype with some

good research behind it, you can go to the Kyolic web site at:

http://www.kyolic.com/Wakunaga/KMain.nsf/996F73004FA510918825690B005B332C/6E89

9725E545155F88256A9400002CB6?Editdocument

Some people think that allicin is the primary ingredient in garlic that

provides benefits, while other research has indicated a variety of sulphur

compounds account for its benefits. Regarding allicin, I have included a

portion of one of my garlic books below (Healing Benefits of Garlic,

Heinerman, Ph.D.) that gives an excellent view of this ingredient. Allicin

isn't created until the garlic clove is peeled or cut. Studies at the

University of North Carolina indicate that it takes 10 minutes for the

process of allicin to be created, and if cooked before that length of time

after opening it is not beneficial when cooked. As the article below

indicates, allicin also has a very short half-life of 3 hours. Which means

if you let it sit for 3 hours at room temperature after peeling, half of the

allicin has disappeared. And it is completely gone in 24 hours. Some people

chop up garlic and store it in oil in the refrigerator. There are two

problems with this, first the allicin is completely gone within 2 days when

refrigerated, and second, there is a mold that has been associated with

garlic in olive oil storage that has killed people.

One last thing about garlic is that it contains germanium. Look for that on

your health food store shelf in supplement form and be prepared to check your

bank balance before writing a check - it's expensive, if you can find it.

Germanium has been found to be very beneficial in cancer prevention, and

cancer treatment. Foods and herbs with germanium in them (in parts per

billion - ppb) are: garlic 1 ppb; ginseng root 5-6 ppb; comfrey root 1 ppb;

comfrey leaf 2 ppb; green tea leaf 9 ppb.

Hope this helps.

Jay

From the book that I cited earlier:

ALLICIN WONDERLAND

When I think of all the marketing hype some garlic companies have given this

ephemeral sulphur compound, I'm reminded of Alice in Wonderland, a world in

which " nothing is as it seems and yet everything is as it seems. "

This sums up the arguments put forth about allicin. -Some manufacturers

contend that allicin is an effective anti- biotic substance, which makes

their particular brands superior. But in the highly competitive health food

industry, where fact and fiction often get mixed together, consumers need to

heed the Latin maxim Caveat emptor ( " Let the buyer beware " ). (My emphasis

added to this very true statement.)

Here is the low-down on allicin, plain and simple. When garlic is crushed or

sliced, an odorless and flavorless compound known as alliin makes contact

with an enzyme called allinase, and together they create allicin, a compound

first isolated in garlic in 1944. But, as Drs. Block and Yoichi Itakura

reiterated at the First World Congress on Garlic, " allicin is very, very

unstable, " to say the least. Studies show that, in pure form, its half-life

is less than three hours. Dr. Itakura observed that " in organic solvents,

allicin disappears in a day at room temperature. " Dr. Block informed me in

private conversation that " allicin may last for a couple of days if you

refrigerate it at a sufficiently cold temperature, " but after that it's

history, chemically speaking.

Even when vegetable or citrus oils are added as stabilizers to garlic

products that brag about their purported allicin contents, the effect only

lasts a week or so, noted Dr. Willis R. Brewer, a pharmacognosist and Dean

and Professor Emeritus in the College of Pharmacy at the University of

Arizona. " Many of the claims based on allicin are out of date, misleading,

and in some cases untrue, " he wrote. " Allicin is a mispromoted substance.

Allicin, " he concluded, " is not a suitable substance for the standardization

of garlic products. "

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Patti,

have you tried to eat raw parsley with the garlic?

I am not sure if it is completely true, but apparently when parsley is added to garlic butter one doesn't end up with garlicky breath etc.

Larger amounts of parsley will also intensify the need to pass water, therewith cleaning the kidneys.... bla bla...

Hope this works,

Sunday (, fan of garlic anyway - first thing when a cold appears, garlic!)

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I found several easy ways to take raw garlic. It does burn when eaten raw, so you kinda have to get used to it. I buy it at the grocery store and just eat it raw--I am not too excited about the chopped stuff in the jar, as I am not sure the allicin is still active, and that is what kills the bacterias and fungus in us.

When I want to get it down fast, I just peel it and then cut it into pill sized pieces and swallow them like pills. I can get down quite a bit of garlic this way. Here are some of my other ideas, which almost always involve peeling and cutting into smaller pieces:

--lightly chew the clove to break it up, and swallow with orange juice, or some other juice.

-- eat it with hummus and pita bread, putting a cut clove on each piece of dipped bread

--eat it with a grilled chicken breast, bite by bite with the chicken. The garlic and chicken together taste great!

I've also done this with some nitrite free chicken and pesto sausages I found at Trader Joes, and you can't even

taste the burn of the garlic. Just adds zest to it.

--I make a caesar's salad and make my own dressing with the raw garlic. My favorite recipe is listed in the

recipes folder, under the database section on the website.

--Using my garlic press, I press a clove or two (or three!) into a cup of organic chicken broth and sip it,

making sure to eat the little chunks.

--eat the garlic with bread and cheese, like feta

I've also bought picked garlic cloves and garlic stuffed olives at Trader Joes, those were pretty good, but I want to be careful of all the sodium, too. Pickled stuff in excess can contribute to stomach cancer, so I don't eat those very often. Once in awhile they taste pretty good though!

As for how often I take it, that totally depends on what social engagements are coming up, but when I am feeling bad, I really try to take it every day. It is not always possible, but I figure if I can have 8 hours when I won't be around someone then I can fit it in. But my husband tells me he can smell it on me! Nobody else gets as close as he does, tho, so I don't worry about it too much. I have had some embarassing moments, that's for sure, I know I've stunk like garlic bad at times.

According to my research, I've heard that 12 cloves a day is considered to be a therapeutic dose. All I can say is that you better have some really good friends if you can stick to that!

Here's the link to my research on garlic, in the files section, under Healing Therapies, Garlic:

http://f5.grp.fs.com/v1/MMMJP6EcAkPwBZ3JlVA2j4Rpa7Hs3k7X58PLlYg7nGR33R1l-HgaWSRnOEnEYieRzy68CRJ_dvBCBem3/Healing%20Therapies/Garlic%20and%20Reducing%20Your%20Viral%20Load...Naturally

Hope this helps, .

Patty

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From: DepoDeeva

Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:24 AM

Subject: Re: flare

Patty:

When you take raw garlic, tell about that. How much do you take and how often?

Do you buy it from the produce department or do you get the already chopped up stuff in a jar? Do you chew it or just swallow it?

A girlfriend brought over a jar of chopped garlic for me yesterday and I "swallowed" down a teaspoonful. Don't know if that'll do anything for me..............?????

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I found a great soup recipe that has a ton of garlic and taste great. Remember when husbands eat it they cant smell it.

2 cups chicken broth

2 cups water

10 -15 cloves of crushed garlic

hand full of fresh basil

several hand fulls of fresh spinach

2 cups cheese filled tortelleni

bring the liquid to a boiln add the rest of ingredents and cook until the pasta is done about 5-7 minutes. After pouring in a bowl sprikle with parmesan cheese.

All the benefits of fresh garlic and great soup too!!!!!

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>Reply- > >Subject: garlic >Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:18:23 -0000 > >I've been putting a ton of garlic in tomato soup. It tastes really >good. Even my kids like it. I put so much tiny chopped pieces in >that my soup is chewey. You can buy the low sodium soup. > >I drink it in a coffee cup, so I can carry it with me. > >Colleen > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*

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Hi Sunday,

Nope, that is one thing I haven't tried. Dr. Weil says eating parsley with garlic helps to keep down the odor, so maybe I better give it a try. I do like parsley, and I know it is good for the kidneys too. Thanks for the tip!

Patty

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From: Sunday

Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:26 PM

Subject: RE: garlic

Patti,

have you tried to eat raw parsley with the garlic?

I am not sure if it is completely true, but apparently when parsley is added to garlic butter one doesn't end up with garlicky breath etc.

Larger amounts of parsley will also intensify the need to pass water, therewith cleaning the kidneys.... bla bla...

Hope this works,

Sunday (, fan of garlic anyway - first thing when a cold appears, garlic!)

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This sounds pretty yummy! I'll have to give this one a go! Please add your favorite healing recipes to our file--check out the database and the recipes table, and feel free to add any you find helpful or just plain yummy!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Vickie

Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:50 PM

Subject: Re: garlic

I found a great soup recipe that has a ton of garlic and taste great. Remember when husbands eat it they cant smell it.

2 cups chicken broth

2 cups water

10 -15 cloves of crushed garlic

hand full of fresh basil

several hand fulls of fresh spinach

2 cups cheese filled tortelleni

bring the liquid to a boiln add the rest of ingredents and cook until the pasta is done about 5-7 minutes. After pouring in a bowl sprikle with parmesan cheese.

All the benefits of fresh garlic and great soup too!!!!!

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Rica wrote:

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> well I preserve my garlic,after seperating the cloves;

> in vodka or vinegar,and then in 2 weeks I add up to 50%distilled

> water.......wonderful.someone said wine vinegar is better as it has

> salt too.so I will try that next batch!!!i can take it as med; or

> add to salad or soup or beans for flavor. and much cheaper than

> buying the garlic pills!!!

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You can use wine vinegar. Or, you can add some celtic sea salt to your

ACV or vodka. Course, I guess you could just use wine but I don't think

it has enough of an octane rating.

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Ali,

Can you tell any difference in how you feel? Other

than feeling that nobody wants you near?

One way to help suppress the taste is with parsley,

another is to eat a fresh apple afterwards. . .

Otherwise, feed everybody around you some foods laden

with garlic too . . . They won't even notice your

garlic breath!

The beneficial part of garlic occurs when the garlic

is crushed releasing the active chemical. Any

processing is going to lose some of the potency. There

is some benefit from processed garlic, like Kolic

(sp?). However, given the choice of no garlic vs.

processed garlic, you would probably be ahead using a

quality garlic product.

Be sure to drink plenty of water while eating

quantities of garlic because it kills Candida and the

die-off of Candida is toxic. Drinking lots of water

will get rid of the toxins.

Hugs,

Rogene

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la,

You certainly wouldn't want to start with 12 cloves .

.. . Start with one at a time and work up to it!

I crush the garlic and sprinkle it on a salad, mix it

with mayo and put in on bread, spread it on pizza.

I've also used an empty gel capsule to scrape the

crushed garlic off the garlic press, then closed the

capsule and swallowed it. Some women chop it into

little pill size pieces, pop it in their mouth, crush

it quickly and swallow.

Eating some fresh apple will help clear the taste from

your mouth.

If you have a Candida problem, you will probably feel

some action going on in your stomach . . . That's

expected! . . . If it doesn't happen, eat more garlic.

If it gets too uncomfortable, cut back.

Other things that help Oil of Orgeano, Grapefruit seed

extract. But Garlic is the best by far!

Doing a liver flush can help immensely. Check the

liver flush information on www.curezone.com.

Hugs,

Rogene

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la,

There's a chemical released when fresh garlic is

crushed. I starts disipating soon after. I'm sure some

of the capsules still have some active ingredients in

them, but fresh garlic is the winner, hands down.

Rogene

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I actually have an article in Alternative Health Magazine that says that the powdered form is the best. It is the Feb issue. I wonder why they would say that?AnnieRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

la,There's a chemical released when fresh garlic iscrushed. I starts disipating soon after. I'm sure someof the capsules still have some active ingredients inthem, but fresh garlic is the winner, hands down.RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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