Re: B...Son's recent labs

December 11, 2008

,

Having been down that road with my youngest daughter (Subtotal thyroidectomy at 17), you should be insisting that they use the Pedi lab tests on your son, NOT the adult labs.

First, children's TSH's tend to run higher than adults do. That said, they have thyroid tests for children that are Gender/Age specific. My grandson's FP doctor ran them on him. He was 12 at the time and fell into the Male (of course) age 11 to 15 range.

He's now on thryoid hormone and, while he's never had a growth problem (was 14 in May and about 5'10") he has problems with constipation and then loose stools (as do I) and his weight. He's about 190-200 lbs now, as football season takes some of the weight off of him. The good thing is he doesn't gain it back, so his growth in height is helping slim him down.

He and his mother go to Micheal Sullivan, PA, in Irving, that is listed on the Group's Doctor's List. She is on Armour...I can't remember if Ian is, or not...but I think he is too.

Faye

Subject: My Son's recent labsTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 2:04 PMHi all,

I just got back from the doctor's office and we've got my younger son's (13 yr. old) first thyroid labs. The Frees are mid to upper range, TSH is 2.39 (range 0.5-4.30), so that looks perfect. But, his Thyroglobulin antibodies are positive (TPO is negative), so it's conclusive that he has Hashi's. At his last appt, the doc had done a sonogram and saw some very odd cysts and his thyroid is very vascular. We've started him on Synthroid (I'll wait to push for Armour). The curious thing about this son is that the ONLY thyroid symptom (hypo) is constipation. He also claims to have memory issues as he doesn't do great on tests at school (lots of rote stuff in 7th grade), so we'll see if this helps - his H/W and quiz grades are high. There's already been a noticeable improvement in disposition and schoolwork for my older son.

I really do want to encourage all of you with teenage kids (and even younger really) to trust your instincts on thus and push for a comprehensive analysis (including sonogram), as I really feel this will help my boys alot. It can be very difficult to see this problem since the docs will tell you that teenage boys are just like this. I had suspected my oldest was hypo 5 years ago and while a GF diet and nutrients have helped, the lack of energy he had for years was just not normal (again, despite pediatrician telling me it was). B. ------------------------------------

December 11, 2008

Faye,

Thanks for the reminder about the pedi labs. Labcorp did provide

those ranges when my older son was first tested, but Quest does not

seem to (I'll look and see if they are on their website).

As far as your grandson and your GI issues, have you been tested for

celiac/gluten intolerance? It often goes hand in hand with

hypothyroidism, in particular when it strikes kids. I'll post the

research article in the celiac/gluten intolerance folder I put in

the files under the Related Issues and Diseases folder. For many of

us, the blood tests will be negative, but the stool test is far more

accurate and picks up the antibodies where they start (in the GI

tract).

I'm not certain Sullivan will work for me as I don't think

he's as aggressive in treatment and likely wouldn't be as flexible

as I would like it optimizing my boys' thyroid. That's based on a

couple of friends I have who have remained terribly hypo over a long

period of time. Now it may be because they weren't assertive

enough, so maybe I should reconsider him, if others have found he's

okay with a TSH near 1.0 (Jan reminded me this is documented in the

online Thyroid book for Hashi's patients). I also think I want them

on Armour as I'm now reading that the synthetics seem to become less

effective over time, but current doc should be okay with that. I

really need to get to accupunturist and have her test me as to

whether the levothroid and Cytomel are still good for me.

Thanks for the feedback - I really appreciate it.

B.

>

> Subject: My Son's recent labs

> To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 2:04 PM

>

> Hi all,

>

> I just got back from the doctor's office and we've got my younger

> son's (13 yr. old) first thyroid labs. The Frees are mid to upper

> range, TSH is 2.39 (range 0.5-4.30), so that looks perfect. But,

his

> Thyroglobulin antibodies are positive (TPO is negative), so it's

> conclusive that he has Hashi's. At his last appt, the doc had done

a

> sonogram and saw some very odd cysts and his thyroid is very

> vascular. We've started him on Synthroid (I'll wait to push for

> Armour). The curious thing about this son is that the ONLY

thyroid

> symptom (hypo) is constipation. He also claims to have memory

issues

> as he doesn't do great on tests at school (lots of rote stuff in

7th

> grade), so we'll see if this helps - his H/W and quiz grades are

> high.

>

> There's already been a noticeable improvement in disposition and

> schoolwork for my older son.

>

> I really do want to encourage all of you with teenage kids (and

even

> younger really) to trust your instincts on thus and push for a

> comprehensive analysis (including sonogram), as I really feel this

> will help my boys alot. It can be very difficult to see this

problem

> since the docs will tell you that teenage boys are just like this.

I

> had suspected my oldest was hypo 5 years ago and while a GF diet

and

> nutrients have helped, the lack of energy he had for years was

just

> not normal (again, despite pediatrician telling me it was).

>

> B.

>

> ------------------------------------

>

December 11, 2008

, what acupuncturist do you see? Is she local?

From:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of mhbarnes_99

Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:45 AM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: Re: B...Son's recent labs

<snip>

I

really need to get to accupunturist and have her test me as to

whether the levothroid and Cytomel are still good for me.

Thanks for the feedback - I really appreciate it.

B.

December 11, 2008

I see Iva Lim Peck in Plano, although I haven't been to her for over

a year since I was doing some laser accupuncture treatments with a

guy in Denton. He just retired, so I will be going back to Dr. Iva.

She is very good. She is in practice with her husband, so if you do

try to get an appt, make sure to ask for one with her. Her husband

is also good, but I just don't like his bedside manner - he tries to

be funny and he's not (IMHO), although he's good with kids. She has

helped me alot with allergic reactions, including one to the CSM

(for the neurotoxins). She also is great for pain relief - that's

why I went to her initially.

She has all the certifications and training and uses NAET for

treating allergies:

http://integratedcenterfororientalmedicine.com/index.htm

B.

>

> , what acupuncturist do you see? Is she local?

>

> From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

> [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of

mhbarnes_99

> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:45 AM

> To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

> Subject: Re: B...Son's recent labs

>

> <snip> I

> really need to get to accupunturist and have her test me as to

> whether the levothroid and Cytomel are still good for me.

>

> Thanks for the feedback - I really appreciate it.

>

> B.

>

December 11, 2008

Thanks, . I’ve been taking one of my sons to see Dr. Kathi

Maher in Arlington. She is helping immensely with allergies. I believe what she

does is similar to NAET, but seems to be working a little better than NAET did

for my son.

Grace

From:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:35 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: Re: B...Son's recent labs

I see Iva Lim Peck in Plano, although I haven't

been to her for over