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I

decided to wait to see the gastroenterologist until after my enterolab results

came back for gluten intolerance. I had the blood test panel done which

was negative. The results came back from enterolab last week. I

have an intolerance for gluten and also dairy. So I’ll be doing a

gluten free/dairy free/soy free diet. Hopefully the GERD will clear up.

Kim

in North Texas

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Hi Kim, Good luck with the diet/lifestyle change. It's so hard to change or cut things out of your diet. I am hoping that the change will improve your GERD. Were you one of the ones that had a hiatal hernia? I can't remember. I am waiting until tax return time to order the Enterolab tests for me and DH. -

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups From: CAdata4u@...Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:40:05 -0600Subject: Update on GERD

I decided to wait to see the gastroenterologist until after my enterolab results came back for gluten intolerance. I had the blood test panel done which was negative. The results came back from enterolab last week. I have an intolerance for gluten and also dairy. So I’ll be doing a gluten free/dairy free/soy free diet. Hopefully the GERD will clear up.

Kim in North Texas

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I don’t think I have a hiatal hernia

just really bad GERD.

I’m less than thrilled about the

news. I’m trying to focus on the positive aspects but talk about a

double whammie with BOTH gluten and dairy. I almost think having the

surgery would have been easier but of course if celiac is really my problem it

would have only been treating a symptom. Just like taking all the

prilosec.

I just hope I notice a big difference in

how I feel so it keeps me motivated to stay on it, although permanent damage to

my health SHOULD be motivation enough. I had a terrible time staying on

the anti-Candida diet for more then a few months.

I’m also happy that we probably

found out why my daughter has so many tummy problems. Her lab kit is on

the way. So at least I’ll have a partner in the diet. My

husband is allergic to dairy too (not just lactose intolerant) so he can

partially relate.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Kim

From:

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Behalf Of Caldwell

Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008

1:11 PM

To: Texas Thyroid Yahoo Group

Subject: RE:

Update on GERD

Hi Kim,

Good luck with the diet/lifestyle change. It's so hard to change or cut

things out of your diet. I am hoping that the change will improve your

GERD. Were you one of the ones that had a hiatal hernia? I

can't remember. I am waiting until tax return time to order the Enterolab

tests for me and DH.

-

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Does this mean that you have Celiac's?

Yvette

>

> I decided to wait to see the gastroenterologist until after my

enterolab

> results came back for gluten intolerance. I had the blood test

panel done

> which was negative. The results came back from enterolab last

week. I have

> an intolerance for gluten and also dairy. So I'll be doing a gluten

> free/dairy free/soy free diet. Hopefully the GERD will clear up.

>

>

>

> Kim in North Texas

>

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Good Luck!

Yvette

>

> Good question. I've googled it and am still confused myself. Here

is an

> answer from:

> http://surefoodsliving.com/2007/05/26/ask-the-doc-difference-

between-celiac-

> disease-gluten-intolerance/

>

>

>

> Q. What is the difference between celiac disease and gluten

intolerance? Is

> one more serious than the other?

>

> A. The strict definition of celiac disease - positive antibodies to

gliadin,

> intestinal endomysium, and tissue transglutaminase, together with

the

> presence of HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8 genes and an intestinal biopsy that

shows at

> least 20-25 CD3 cells per 100 epithelial cells - will account for

about

> 75-80% of all those sensitive to gluten. It must be noted, however,

that

> there are injurious grain proteins that cause damage and produce

symptoms by

> mechanisms that are as yet obscure. As well, many other gene

markers for

> grain-mediated injury have been described, thus placing many into

the

> category of gluten intolerant, but not truly having celiac disease.

We do

> know the consequences of untreated celiac disease - an increased

risk for

> lymphomas and other solid tumors, along with a host of associated

> auto-immune, neurological and endocrine diseases. It is unclear

whether

> other people who are not celiacs but clearly cannot tolerate gluten

are at

> risk for any other associated diseases. If you test negative for

the strict

> criteria for celiac disease, but still cannot tolerate gluten,

there is no

> harm in keeping to a gluten-free diet.

> Health and happiness,

> Dr. Aron <http://www.surefoodsliving.com/ask-the-doc/>

>

>

> All I know is that the test results state that I must permanently

give up

> gluten. My blood tests were negative. I do have a blistery rash on

my right

> foot which has been present for 3-4 months and eczema on my shins

that has

> been present for about 5 years. I don't know whether this is the

skin rash

> (dermatitis herpitiformis) associated with celiac or not. I don't

know how

> it is confirmed other then it going away once I stop eating gluten.

>

>

>

> I knew gluten can be in almost anything but can you believe they

are in

> band-aids?

>

>

>

> Tuesday is the big day! Monday I am having a tea with my mother and

> daughter (one of our Christmas traditions). I'll be looking for a

new

> tradition for next year. Maybe I'll host a gluten free tea.

>

>

>

> I'll post when I get back the results on my daughter's test. It

will

> probably be another week.

>

>

>

> Kim in No Texas

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

>

> >

>

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Kim

That's a good explanation that you pulled up. While you don't have

the main celiac genes (DQ2 and DQ8), the ones you have also have a

predisposition for an immune reaction to gluten. The DQ7 that I'm

recalling you also have (I have that one too) is moleculary very

similar to DQ8 - they're both subtypes of DQ3, so from a biological

perspective, it's not that difficult to see that both genes can

result in similar immune reactions. The gluten acts like a key, if

you will, that unlocks the reaction in your body. Also, that DQ7

often goes along with a DR4, which is associated with autoimmune

arthritis (and it's one of the ones that gets most zapped by any

kind of toxin).

There's a book on autoimmune endocrine disorders that discusses the

genes and DQ7 goes along with a higher incidence of post-partum

thyroid disease:

" Endocrine Autoimmunity and Associated Conditions "

By P. Weetman (note: the book is $243.00, but you can

preview on amazon ;)

And, here's the abstract of an article on DQ7 and Autoimmune thyroid

disease:

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a786640084~db=all

In my experience it was likely pregnancy/childbirth that put me well

into the hypo range in lab tests and based on symptoms, I'd likely

been hypo for at least 15 years.

Also, you can call the nurse at enterolab and she can answer lots of

questions.

In looking up the above info on DQ7, a general search in pubmed of

HLA DQ and thyroid shows that the DQ8 is the gene for which there is

the largest potential for thyroid cancer - not something I want to

read given that's the gene my younger son (with the really funky

nodules and vascular thyroid) has - I think I'll have to be very

aggressive about monitoring his thyroid and may need a second

opinion. Does anyone know a DFW area doc that would be objective in

evaluating my son?

BTW, I've always had in mind to have a gluten free tea. Scones and a

real high tea are something I miss the most on a GF diet. One of my

most favorite things to do has been to have tea whenever I travel to

Europe and to big cities in the U.S. with fancy hotels - the last

time I had tea was at the Drake hotel in Chicago. My favorite was

the Savoy in London (on Sunday - they have a small orchestra).

B.

>

> Good question. I've googled it and am still confused myself.

Here is an

> answer from:

> http://surefoodsliving.com/2007/05/26/ask-the-doc-difference-

between-celiac-

> disease-gluten-intolerance/

>

>

>

> Q. What is the difference between celiac disease and gluten

intolerance? Is

> one more serious than the other?

>

> A. The strict definition of celiac disease - positive antibodies

to gliadin,

> intestinal endomysium, and tissue transglutaminase, together with

the

> presence of HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8 genes and an intestinal biopsy that

shows at

> least 20-25 CD3 cells per 100 epithelial cells - will account for

about

> 75-80% of all those sensitive to gluten. It must be noted,

however, that

> there are injurious grain proteins that cause damage and produce

symptoms by

> mechanisms that are as yet obscure. As well, many other gene

markers for

> grain-mediated injury have been described, thus placing many into

the

> category of gluten intolerant, but not truly having celiac

disease. We do

> know the consequences of untreated celiac disease - an increased

risk for

> lymphomas and other solid tumors, along with a host of associated

> auto-immune, neurological and endocrine diseases. It is unclear

whether

> other people who are not celiacs but clearly cannot tolerate

gluten are at

> risk for any other associated diseases. If you test negative for

the strict

> criteria for celiac disease, but still cannot tolerate gluten,

there is no

> harm in keeping to a gluten-free diet.

> Health and happiness,

> Dr. Aron <http://www.surefoodsliving.com/ask-the-doc/>

>

>

> All I know is that the test results state that I must permanently

give up

> gluten. My blood tests were negative. I do have a blistery rash

on my right

> foot which has been present for 3-4 months and eczema on my shins

that has

> been present for about 5 years. I don't know whether this is the

skin rash

> (dermatitis herpitiformis) associated with celiac or not. I don't

know how

> it is confirmed other then it going away once I stop eating gluten.

>

>

>

> I knew gluten can be in almost anything but can you believe they

are in

> band-aids?

>

>

>

> Tuesday is the big day! Monday I am having a tea with my mother

and

> daughter (one of our Christmas traditions). I'll be looking for a

new

> tradition for next year. Maybe I'll host a gluten free tea.

>

>

>

> I'll post when I get back the results on my daughter's test. It

will

> probably be another week.

>

>

>

> Kim in No Texas

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

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Tea has gluten? I like tea alot and I don't want to give it up if I

have celiac's.

how reliable is enterolab? I going to order the gluten

sensitivity test.

Yvette

>

> Kim

>

> That's a good explanation that you pulled up. While you don't have

> the main celiac genes (DQ2 and DQ8), the ones you have also have a

> predisposition for an immune reaction to gluten. The DQ7 that I'm

> recalling you also have (I have that one too) is moleculary very

> similar to DQ8 - they're both subtypes of DQ3, so from a biological

> perspective, it's not that difficult to see that both genes can

> result in similar immune reactions. The gluten acts like a key, if

> you will, that unlocks the reaction in your body. Also, that DQ7

> often goes along with a DR4, which is associated with autoimmune

> arthritis (and it's one of the ones that gets most zapped by any

> kind of toxin).

>

> There's a book on autoimmune endocrine disorders that discusses the

> genes and DQ7 goes along with a higher incidence of post-partum

> thyroid disease:

> " Endocrine Autoimmunity and Associated Conditions "

> By P. Weetman (note: the book is $243.00, but you can

> preview on amazon ;)

>

> And, here's the abstract of an article on DQ7 and Autoimmune

thyroid

> disease:

> http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a786640084~db=all

>

> In my experience it was likely pregnancy/childbirth that put me

well

> into the hypo range in lab tests and based on symptoms, I'd likely

> been hypo for at least 15 years.

>

> Also, you can call the nurse at enterolab and she can answer lots

of

> questions.

>

> In looking up the above info on DQ7, a general search in pubmed of

> HLA DQ and thyroid shows that the DQ8 is the gene for which there

is

> the largest potential for thyroid cancer - not something I want to

> read given that's the gene my younger son (with the really funky

> nodules and vascular thyroid) has - I think I'll have to be very

> aggressive about monitoring his thyroid and may need a second

> opinion. Does anyone know a DFW area doc that would be objective in

> evaluating my son?

>

> BTW, I've always had in mind to have a gluten free tea. Scones and

a

> real high tea are something I miss the most on a GF diet. One of my

> most favorite things to do has been to have tea whenever I travel

to

> Europe and to big cities in the U.S. with fancy hotels - the last

> time I had tea was at the Drake hotel in Chicago. My favorite was

> the Savoy in London (on Sunday - they have a small orchestra).

>

> B.

>

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Yvette,

Most teas are gluten free. Although, some of the flavored ones are

not.

The reason I gave up going out for a nice tea is because all the

accompaniments contain gluten - finger sandwiches, scones and nice

pastries. So, that's the stuff that Kim and I would enjoy if they

were gluten free, although these days I don't deal so well with all

the carbs. But, I might just splurge one day.

The enterolab test is very accurate since it catches both the gluten

intolerance and celiac. It's just not specific to celiac disease.

It's 100% accurate for biopsy positive celiacs - it's just that it

will also catch those that may not have reached the end stage or

don't have the immune reaction in the gut - it can be in the skin,

brain, etc.

B.

> >

> > Kim

> >

> > That's a good explanation that you pulled up. While you don't

have

> > the main celiac genes (DQ2 and DQ8), the ones you have also have

a

> > predisposition for an immune reaction to gluten. The DQ7 that

I'm

> > recalling you also have (I have that one too) is moleculary very

> > similar to DQ8 - they're both subtypes of DQ3, so from a

biological

> > perspective, it's not that difficult to see that both genes can

> > result in similar immune reactions. The gluten acts like a key,

if

> > you will, that unlocks the reaction in your body. Also, that DQ7

> > often goes along with a DR4, which is associated with autoimmune

> > arthritis (and it's one of the ones that gets most zapped by any

> > kind of toxin).

> >

> > There's a book on autoimmune endocrine disorders that discusses

the

> > genes and DQ7 goes along with a higher incidence of post-partum

> > thyroid disease:

> > " Endocrine Autoimmunity and Associated Conditions "

> > By P. Weetman (note: the book is $243.00, but you can

> > preview on amazon ;)

> >

> > And, here's the abstract of an article on DQ7 and Autoimmune

> thyroid

> > disease:

> >

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a786640084~db=all

> >

> > In my experience it was likely pregnancy/childbirth that put me

> well

> > into the hypo range in lab tests and based on symptoms, I'd

likely

> > been hypo for at least 15 years.

> >

> > Also, you can call the nurse at enterolab and she can answer

lots

> of

> > questions.

> >

> > In looking up the above info on DQ7, a general search in pubmed

of

> > HLA DQ and thyroid shows that the DQ8 is the gene for which

there

> is

> > the largest potential for thyroid cancer - not something I want

to

> > read given that's the gene my younger son (with the really funky

> > nodules and vascular thyroid) has - I think I'll have to be very

> > aggressive about monitoring his thyroid and may need a second

> > opinion. Does anyone know a DFW area doc that would be objective

in

> > evaluating my son?

> >

> > BTW, I've always had in mind to have a gluten free tea. Scones

and

> a

> > real high tea are something I miss the most on a GF diet. One of

my

> > most favorite things to do has been to have tea whenever I

travel

> to

> > Europe and to big cities in the U.S. with fancy hotels - the

last

> > time I had tea was at the Drake hotel in Chicago. My favorite

was

> > the Savoy in London (on Sunday - they have a small orchestra).

> >

> > B.

> >

> >>

>

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I just ordered the test yesterday for enterolab and I'm already

nervous about the outcome. I've been wheat free about a week and

already I have less symptoms like less bloating.

Yvette

>

> Yvette,

>

> Most teas are gluten free. Although, some of the flavored ones are

> not.

>

> The reason I gave up going out for a nice tea is because all the

> accompaniments contain gluten - finger sandwiches, scones and nice

> pastries. So, that's the stuff that Kim and I would enjoy if they

> were gluten free, although these days I don't deal so well with all

> the carbs. But, I might just splurge one day.

>

> The enterolab test is very accurate since it catches both the

gluten

> intolerance and celiac. It's just not specific to celiac disease.

> It's 100% accurate for biopsy positive celiacs - it's just that it

> will also catch those that may not have reached the end stage or

> don't have the immune reaction in the gut - it can be in the skin,

> brain, etc.

>

> B.

>

>

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, Correct me if I’m wrong but it

is best not to alter the diet until after you provide your specimen to

Enterolab.

Kim in No Texas

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of yvettecvzs

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008

11:53 AM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Update on GERD

I just ordered the test yesterday for enterolab and

I'm already

nervous about the outcome. I've been wheat free about a week and

already I have less symptoms like less bloating.

Yvette

>

> Yvette,

>

> Most teas are gluten free. Although, some of the flavored ones are

> not.

>

> The reason I gave up going out for a nice tea is because all the

> accompaniments contain gluten - finger sandwiches, scones and nice

> pastries. So, that's the stuff that Kim and I would enjoy if they

> were gluten free, although these days I don't deal so well with all

> the carbs. But, I might just splurge one day.

>

> The enterolab test is very accurate since it catches both the

gluten

> intolerance and celiac. It's just not specific to celiac disease.

> It's 100% accurate for biopsy positive celiacs - it's just that it

> will also catch those that may not have reached the end stage or

> don't have the immune reaction in the gut - it can be in the skin,

> brain, etc.

>

> B.

>

>

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Kim,

Yes, they recommend that you remain on gluten for the most accurate

results. I had been off gluten for a couple months by the time I did

my test and tried to do a gluten challenge. That was a bad idea as I

had never felt sicker in my life. I did the test, but really didn't

care about the results other than the gene test, because I KNEW

gluten made me sick. I only had high normal antibodies, but then

again, it's rare that I have above high normal antibodies to

anything, so for me this was a positive result. I did ask Dr. Fine

about it and he says they have the bar quite high to ensure the

accuracy, but he believes that anyone that's even close to the upper

end of the range is likely reacting to gluten.

So, Yvette, just beware that if you've been off gluten you may get a

false negative, so if you're not doing the gene test as well, you

might have mixed views about sticking to the diet. However, if you

are feeling better, then certainly I wouldn't tell you to consume

gluten (nor would anyone at enterolab - but you can call them and

double check). It is highly variable as to how long it can take for

the antibodies to get back to normal - neither of my two sons were

in the normal range even after 2 yrs on the diet, but we know that

did inadvertently consume gluten a couple times. For them, that was

enough to keep the antibodies high.

.

> >

> > Yvette,

> >

> > Most teas are gluten free. Although, some of the flavored ones

are

> > not.

> >

> > The reason I gave up going out for a nice tea is because all the

> > accompaniments contain gluten - finger sandwiches, scones and

nice

> > pastries. So, that's the stuff that Kim and I would enjoy if

they

> > were gluten free, although these days I don't deal so well with

all

> > the carbs. But, I might just splurge one day.

> >

> > The enterolab test is very accurate since it catches both the

> gluten

> > intolerance and celiac. It's just not specific to celiac

disease.

> > It's 100% accurate for biopsy positive celiacs - it's just that

it

> > will also catch those that may not have reached the end stage or

> > don't have the immune reaction in the gut - it can be in the

skin,

> > brain, etc.

> >

> > B.

> >

>

> >

>

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Well now I should admit that I had a cookie this morning. I couldn't

help myself, they were homemade and chocolate chip.

Yvette

>

> Kim,

>

> Yes, they recommend that you remain on gluten for the most accurate

> results. I had been off gluten for a couple months by the time I

did

> my test and tried to do a gluten challenge. That was a bad idea as

I

> had never felt sicker in my life. I did the test, but really didn't

> care about the results other than the gene test, because I KNEW

> gluten made me sick. I only had high normal antibodies, but then

> again, it's rare that I have above high normal antibodies to

> anything, so for me this was a positive result. I did ask Dr. Fine

> about it and he says they have the bar quite high to ensure the

> accuracy, but he believes that anyone that's even close to the

upper

> end of the range is likely reacting to gluten.

>

> So, Yvette, just beware that if you've been off gluten you may get

a

> false negative, so if you're not doing the gene test as well, you

> might have mixed views about sticking to the diet. However, if you

> are feeling better, then certainly I wouldn't tell you to consume

> gluten (nor would anyone at enterolab - but you can call them and

> double check). It is highly variable as to how long it can take

for

> the antibodies to get back to normal - neither of my two sons were

> in the normal range even after 2 yrs on the diet, but we know that

> did inadvertently consume gluten a couple times. For them, that was

> enough to keep the antibodies high.

>

> .

>

>

>

> -

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> >

>

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Yes, the holidays are tough on this diet - so likely a really good

time to run the test - they typically ship quickly and you'll

usually get results in just a couple weeks, although, they will

likely be closed after the holidays.

My whole family will retest after the holidays.

B.

> >

> > Kim,

> >

> > Yes, they recommend that you remain on gluten for the most

accurate

> > results. I had been off gluten for a couple months by the time I

> did

> > my test and tried to do a gluten challenge. That was a bad idea

as

> I

> > had never felt sicker in my life. I did the test, but really

didn't

> > care about the results other than the gene test, because I KNEW

> > gluten made me sick. I only had high normal antibodies, but then

> > again, it's rare that I have above high normal antibodies to

> > anything, so for me this was a positive result. I did ask Dr.

Fine

> > about it and he says they have the bar quite high to ensure the

> > accuracy, but he believes that anyone that's even close to the

> upper

> > end of the range is likely reacting to gluten.

> >

> > So, Yvette, just beware that if you've been off gluten you may

get

> a

> > false negative, so if you're not doing the gene test as well,

you

> > might have mixed views about sticking to the diet. However, if

you

> > are feeling better, then certainly I wouldn't tell you to

consume

> > gluten (nor would anyone at enterolab - but you can call them

and

> > double check). It is highly variable as to how long it can take

> for

> > the antibodies to get back to normal - neither of my two sons

were

> > in the normal range even after 2 yrs on the diet, but we know

that

> > did inadvertently consume gluten a couple times. For them, that

was

> > enough to keep the antibodies high.

> >

> > .

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Kim, best of luck with the new eating plan. Food allergies can be a bit

overwhelming at first. I

am allergic to over 20 foods, so I know what you are going through. Do some

research

online, and go check out some gluten free products. They carry many gluten free

products in

the grocery stores. I know that you will start to feel much better when all

these things are out

of your diet.

applegirl

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I am shocked how much better I feel just

eliminating the gluten. It was almost the next day. I can’t

explain it except for feeling lighter. I guess compared to how I feel

when I eat a big heavy meal. That heavy feeling is gone. I’m

also not feeling so groggy in the morning.

Still haven’t given up the dairy/casein.

My biggest problem is my coffee…especially with it being so cold out the

past few days. Almond milk just does not do it. I’m trying a

couple of other GFCFSF products. I just might have to just give it up and

start drinking tea to warm up.

Kim in Texas

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of applegirl016

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008

11:02 AM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Update on GERD

Kim, best of luck with the new eating plan. Food

allergies can be a bit overwhelming at first. I

am allergic to over 20 foods, so I know what you are going through. Do some

research

online, and go check out some gluten free products. They carry many gluten free

products in

the grocery stores. I know that you will start to feel much better when all

these things are out

of your diet.

applegirl

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I make hot flavored tea a lot and put a little honey in it. It has replaced hot chocolate for me. You can also get the stevie sweetener...it comes in a little bottle with dropper. They have several different flavors. I like to put the vanilla in my tea.

I am shocked how much better I feel just eliminating the gluten. It was almost the next day. I can't explain it except for feeling lighter. I guess compared to how I feel when I eat a big heavy meal. That heavy feeling is gone. I'm also not feeling so groggy in the morning.

Still haven't given up the dairy/casein. My biggest problem is my coffee…especially with it being so cold out the past few days. Almond milk just does not do it. I'm trying a couple of other GFCFSF products. I just might have to just give it up and start drinking tea to warm up.

Kim in Texas

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of applegirl016

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:02 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: Re: Update on GERD

Kim, best of luck with the new eating plan. Food allergies can be a bit overwhelming at first. I am allergic to over 20 foods, so I know what you are going through. Do some research

online, and go check out some gluten free products. They carry many gluten free products in the grocery stores. I know that you will start to feel much better when all these things are out of your diet.applegirl

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I am glad to hear that you felt better so quickly. It took me several months,

and I can really

tell when I backslide. And yes, the dairy can be really hard to give up. I was

able to switch to

goat milk, but some people can't tolerate it either. I miss my coffee as well!

Sometimes I just

bite the bullet and have some, and hope I don't feel bad later! Tea is a good

alternative.

applegirl

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I have pretty much have given up on the

coffee for now. I am trying different teas. I found a cute travel tea mug at

Target. It has a strainer in it for loose tea. I have to go find another one

for my daughter.

I’ll try reintroducing coffee with

some of the dairy/soy free creamers in a few weeks. Maybe I’ll have

forgotten a little bit how good the real dairy is in it.

I think the reason I felt some better so

quickly is that I was eating so much of dairy/gluten getting ready to abstain

that I was literally making myself sick on it. I have heard that once you go

gluten free, the reaction can be quite strong if it is reintroduced.

My daughter is waiting for her test

results. She hopes that she does not have to give up both. Although I cannot

imagine having to give up 20 different things due to allergies like a previous

poster.

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of applegirl016

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008

10:47 AM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Update on GERD

I am glad to hear that you felt better so quickly. It

took me several months, and I can really

tell when I backslide. And yes, the dairy can be really hard to give up. I was

able to switch to

goat milk, but some people can't tolerate it either. I miss my coffee as well!

Sometimes I just

bite the bullet and have some, and hope I don't feel bad later! Tea is a good

alternative.

applegirl

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KimIf you will remember, when I was diagnosed ten years ago, I was allergic to 65 of the 75 things I ate. I went on a 100% elimination diet: no wheat, no gluten, only organic, no hormones, no antibiotics, six allergy shots a week and food drops. All of this for one year. This was a MAJOR piece of my wellness. Equal to the vitamins, minerals and hormones!Sharon Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:18 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: Update on GERDI have pretty much have given up on the coffee for now. I am trying different teas. I found a cute travel tea mug at Target. It has a strainer in it for loose tea. I have to go find another one for my daughter. I’ll try reintroducing coffee with some of the dairy/soy free creamers in a few weeks. Maybe I’ll have forgotten a little bit how good the real dairy is in it. I think the reason I felt some better so quickly is that I was eating so much of dairy/gluten getting ready to abstain that I was literally making myself sick on it. I have heard that once you go gluten free, the reaction can be quite strong if it is reintroduced. My daughter is waiting for her test results. She hopes that she does not have to give up both. Although I cannot imagine having to give up 20 different things due to allergies like a previous poster. Kim From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of applegirl016 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:47 AM To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Update on GERD I am glad to hear that you felt better so quickly It took me several months, and I can really tell when I backslide. And yes, the dairy can be really hard to give up. I was able to switch to goat milk, but some people can't tolerate it either. I miss my coffee as well! Sometimes I just bite the bullet and have some, and hope I don't feel bad later! Tea is a good alternative. applegirl

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Good luck finding a non-dairy creamer that doesn't contain soy... and

if you do find one, let all of us know quick! ;-)

Marti

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>  

> I’ll try reintroducing coffee with some of the dairy/soy free creamers

> in a few weeks.  Maybe I’ll have forgotten a little bit how good the

> real dairy is in it.

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I have found a couple brands of non-dairy milk powders - those are a

handy substitute for creamer. Vance's dari-free (vanilla flavored)

is potato based and there is a rice based on I found at Sprouts. The

Vance's container has the amounts to make a creamer or just use dry.

It contains no allergens (unless you're like me and don't do well

with sugar or potatoes ;)

Also, many products only contain soy lecithin, which generally is

okay due to both the amounts and it only contains miniscule amounts

of soy protein/isoflavans.

B.

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> >

> >  

> > I'll try reintroducing coffee with some of the dairy/soy free

creamers

> > in a few weeks.  Maybe I'll have forgotten a little bit how good

the

> > real dairy is in it.

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I had forgotten that you had all of those

allergies. What type of test did you have done to find out what the allergies

were?

I actually was feeling really good EXCEPT

the GERD and the skin rashes. My eczema is definitely less itchy. But I think

my baseline for “feeling well” is not normal since I had been

functioning at such a low level for so long.

Kim in No Texas

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Sharon

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008

2:55 PM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: RE:

Re: Update on GERD

Kim

If you will remember, when I was diagnosed ten years ago, I was allergic to 65

of the 75 things I ate. I went on a 100% elimination diet: no wheat, no gluten,

only organic, no hormones, no antibiotics, six allergy shots a week and food

drops. All of this for one year. This was a MAJOR piece of my wellness. Equal

to the vitamins, minerals and hormones!

Sharon

From: Kim in

North Texas <CAdata4ugmail>

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:18 AM

To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject: RE: Re:

Update on GERD

I have pretty much have given up on the coffee for now. I am

trying different teas. I found a cute travel tea mug at Target. It

has a strainer in it for loose tea. I have to go find another one for my

daughter.

I’ll try reintroducing coffee with some of the dairy/soy free

creamers in a few weeks. Maybe I’ll have forgotten a little bit how

good the real dairy is in it.

I think the reason I felt some better so quickly is that I was

eating so much of dairy/gluten getting ready to abstain that I was literally

making myself sick on it. I have heard that once you go gluten free, the

reaction can be quite strong if it is reintroduced.

My daughter is waiting for her test results. She hopes that

she does not have to give up both. Although I cannot imagine having to

give up 20 different things due to allergies like a previous poster.

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups

[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ]

On Behalf Of applegirl016

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008

10:47 AM

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Subject:

Re: Update on GERD

I am glad

to hear that you felt better so quickly It took me several months, and I can

really

tell when I backslide. And yes, the dairy can be really hard to give up. I was

able to switch to

goat milk, but some people can't tolerate it either. I miss my coffee as well!

Sometimes I just

bite the bullet and have some, and hope I don't feel bad later! Tea is a good

alternative.

applegirl

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Nothing esoteric or out of the ordinary! Skin testing and blood work with our favorite ENT/allergist! 99% of our pts see him. I also had TERRIBLE reflux at that time. All gone now! Rarely have any now.Sharon Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 08:22 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: Update on GERDI had forgotten that you had all of those allergies. What type of test did you have done to find out what the allergies were? I actually was feeling really good EXCEPT the GERD and the skin rashes. My eczema is definitely less itchy. But I think my baseline for “feeling well” is not normal since I had been functioning at such a low level for so long. Kim in No Texas From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Sharon Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:55 PM To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: Update on GERD Kim If you will remember, when I was diagnosed ten years ago, I was allergic to 65 of the 75 things I ate. I went on a 100% elimination diet: no wheat, no gluten, only organic, no hormones, no antibiotics, six allergy shots a week and food drops. All of this for one year. This was a MAJOR piece of my wellness. Equal to the vitamins, minerals and hormones! Sharon From: Kim in North Texas <CAdata4ugmail>Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:18 AMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: Update on GERDI have pretty much have given up on the coffee for now. I am trying different teas. I found a cute travel tea mug at Target. It has a strainer in it for loose tea. I have to go find another one for my daughter. I’ll try reintroducing coffee with some of the dairy/soy free creamers in a few weeks. Maybe I’ll have forgotten a little bit how good the real dairy is in it. I think the reason I felt some better so quickly is that I was eating so much of dairy/gluten getting ready to abstain that I was literally making myself sick on it. I have heard that once you go gluten free, the reaction can be quite strong if it is reintroduced. My daughter is waiting for her test results. She hopes that she does not have to give up both. Although I cannot imagine having to give up 20 different things due to allergies like a previous poster. Kim From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of applegirl016 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:47 AM To: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Update on GERD I am glad to hear that you felt better so quickly It took me several months, and I can really tell when I backslide. And yes, the dairy can be really hard to give up. I was able to switch to goat milk, but some people can't tolerate it either. I miss my coffee as well! Sometimes I just bite the bullet and have some, and hope I don't feel bad later! Tea is a good alternative. applegirl

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I thought my 20 or so allergies were really bad till I heard about Sharon.

Yikes! I know that I

struggled with figuring out what to eat for the first 2 weeks, but it became

easier. Of course,

I do still " fall off the wagon " and eat things I am allergic to once in a while.

However, it

always makes me feel so bad that I don't do it very often.

applegirl

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One thing I find with food allergies is that they go up and down with

airborne allergies - for example when the ragweed was so bad in the

fall I had to stay away from anything in the gourd family including

pumpkin seeds.

I find in general that I have to stay away from whole families,

including nightshades (causes arthritic reactions). I also have

problems with latex (which includes bananas and avocados).

And, I unfortunately, remain allergic to walnuts, pecans and many

seeds - these cause oral reactions. And, I can't eat anything that is

either in the fungi family (mushrooms) or that might have high levels

of fungal contamination - peanuts, some legumes and most corn

products. I also am allergic to eggs and dairy. So, no - 20 allergens

aren't so bad ;)

I had an IgG blood tests done which measured longer term allergic

reactions - those are the ones that are more common actually and can

be the hardest to track down with an elimination diet, unless you're

really obsessive about it - i.e., going off everything until you feel

better and then adding only one new food every 4 days, since delayed

reactions can take as long as 72 hours to show up.

For IgE tests (like the skin test or blood tests for IgE antibodies,

which is what most conventional allergy doctors use), the only thing I

was allergic to was household dust/mites.

Also, there's the concept that you can handle x amount of a variety of

allergens and it's only when you go over that threshold that you will

have noticeable reactions - that's the case for me with the seasonal

allergies - the problem I had was that with the amount of ragweed, I

was over my tolerance level daily.

You can also get tested using energy techniques - such as NAET, ART,

muscle testing, etc. These have been most useful for me in determining

whether my supplements were causing me problems, as well as Rx

medications.

I've had NAET treatments for foods, but those just don't seem to have

taken - at least for the things that I've had the strongest reactions

to. Although, I do plan on repeating some of them as my immune system

may have healed. And, avoiding things like eggs (in baked goods) is

most difficult during the holidays. Fortunately, I seem to tolerate

small amounts of egg in baked products, but can't close to eating a

soft boiled (my favorite) or fried egg. Supposedly, cooking does

neutralize some of the proteins.

And, for me the most frustrating allergy is the one to pork, so I

can't take Armour - that one is on the top of my list when I get back

to the accupuncturist in Jan.

And, of course, allergies are a sign of adrenal issues and while mine

have become significantly less, daily stress makes it very difficult

to totally optimize. For me, I don't see that getting too much better

until I get my youngest son out of the house! And unfortunately, the

doctors seem to concur ;( But, I have scheduled a mini vacation for

myself for my birthday in early Feb, so that will hopefully help. I

think I've mentioned on this list before, but they did research and

found the stress levels of mothers (stay-at-home moms in particular)

to be equivalent to that of a soldier on the frontline in a

battlefield (and certainly, I don't want to downplay that the soldiers

life is on the line for the sake of all of us), but it just reflects

how our bodies are reacting to our daily responsibilities and all the

demands on us.

Happy Holidays to everyone and do try to take some time for yourself -

I plan to take over the bathroom for an hour tonite and take a nice

long bath! And, I'm serving leftovers for dinner for the next two

nites!

B.

>

> I thought my 20 or so allergies were really bad till I heard about

Sharon. Yikes! I know that I

> struggled with figuring out what to eat for the first 2 weeks, but

it became easier. Of course,

> I do still " fall off the wagon " and eat things I am allergic to once

in a while. However, it

> always makes me feel so bad that I don't do it very often.

>

> applegirl

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