Re: Preservatives truth

[Guest guest]

>I'm getting frustrated... I keep encountering statements that I have been

taught

>are false -- and yet these statements are found in respectable places.

The information source you cited may be respectable but I wouldn't call

them credible.

>If there is no basis for this statement, then why do people keep saying it?

What

>is powering their logic that leads them to believe this to be true?

I can only come up with misinformed and confused.

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

[Guest guest]

I long ago came to the conclusion that the vast majority of people

who sell soaping supplies or paraphernalia are amazingly ignorant of

what they're doing.

It has been many years since I thought that Failor had any

credibility in anything scientific, and her cream soap book is the

worst offender yet.

Some essential oils DO have antimicrobial properties, but

unfortunately, to use them as such, they'd have to be at such high

concentrations as to make the products dangerous. However, too many

suppliers seem to wilfully ignore the conditional phrase in that

statement.

That's one of the reasons I first joined a cosmetic chemistry list -

I saw way too much crap out there coming from the mouths and off the

websites of people who didn't know what they were talking about.

They believe the statements they make because they want them to be

true, IMO...kind of a mental placebo effect. " If it's in print, it

must be true " sort of mentality.

Jules

> Dear Friends,

>

> I'm getting frustrated... I keep encountering statements that I

have been taught

> are false -- and yet these statements are found in respectable

places.

>

> I got the Cream Soap booklet by Failor. In this booklet,

she refers to

> Vit. E as a preservative, and the context shows that this is what

she meant to

> say.

>

> I went to the website of a respected member of our soaping

community. Her

> website said the same thing... that Vit. E was a preservative.

>

> Now, on http://www.reneal.com 's companion site,

> http://www.skincarerecipes.com/Preserving.htm , the following

paragraph is

> found:

>

> Most all essential oils, applied at one percent or more to any

product will help

> to preserve your product. Citrus type essential oils such as orange

sweet,

> mandarin or grapefruit work best. Essential oils do evaporate, so

they must be

> added to your product only after your product is in the cool down

stage and

> sealed tightly as to not lose any of the essential oil properties.

>

> I have been searching for preservative vendors, and have seen

Essential Oils

> listed as preservatives more than once.

>

> WHY are these intelligent people saying these things? Is there a

body of

> information out there that supports these claims? If not, then why

are these

> people being allowed to promote myth?

>

> I am a moderator of a large list which has a high percentage

of " newbies " . I am

> trying very hard to " teach " and lead them properly. It makes it

pretty difficult

> to teach and lead them when they go to these sites and encounter

these

> statements.

>

> I'm not going to toss out my GBII... I promise. But will you

honestly tell me if

> there is ANY basis for the following statement:

> >>>

> Vitamin E, essential oils, grain alcohol and germal plus can be

added to your

> natural products as preservatives, but it must be understood that

natural

> products are only going to have an estimated shelf life of 6 months

to one year

> with these preservatives.

> >>>

>

> If there is no basis for this statement, then why do people keep

saying it? What

> is powering their logic that leads them to believe this to be true?

>

> Thank you,

> Cyn