Re: VB /Nonverbal Kids . Rewriten not so LONG now but still LONG

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Forgive the horrible typos! I hit 'send' instead of 'edit' (which I

clearly should have done...edit, that is) but thought it would be

understandable...not. Anyway, the procedure may help with stimulus

control issues particularly if a child responds with the same answer

when asked, " What do you want? " or " What is it? " You can write me

at write434@... if you want to try to replicate it. I'm sure

there are other procedures that are sure to work. This one, however,

lead to reading from left to right because of it's nature of moving

in that direction. An echoic/mimic is minimally needed. Warm

regards,

> We've been doing ABA/VB for many years. Do to stimulus

> control issues, we weren't progressing vocally. Our new

procedures are working beautifully and much has to do with

rethinking his level of functioning (which helps with MO).

>

> Broca's and Wernicke's are types of aphasias. To me,having one

or the other will, in some way, effect the motor cortex because

these areas of language in the brain run along both sides

> of it. So motor movement, as it relates to social exchange, is

impaired in both cases. I think of Broca's aphasia when I hear a

> child is nonverbal. In a nutshell, the children/adults with

Broca's process information and store it but they have difficulty in

> retrieving it unless movitated in someway. This is

> observed during nonverbal problem solving to get a need met.

Seldom does the problem solving occur with vocal behavior. So here

we are with children who are intelligent (have a large history of

reinforcement in terms of their environment) but who present low

functioning because there is the disfunctional relationship between

the behavior of the motor cortex and those two language areas (and

intelligence is most often determined by language based testing). >

> In Medical News Today

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=11412

Researchers used functional MRIs (they wanted to elicit a

> response) while looking at the brains of adults with Asperger's

compared to " typical " brains. Because the study required expressive

language, the participants presented with Wernicke's according to

the scans and this surprised the researchers. This didn't surprise

me, however. In Wernicke's aphasia, the person may speak to the

degree of eloquency but makes no logical/social sense. And here we

are, again, with test that are based on language responses. This

type of fMRI is not possible with nonverbal children whom might have

Broca's.

What is possible is to address the motor issue with a vengence. It

begins with probing and prompting THE MOTOR MOVEMENT not the answer

(unless the environment never exposed the child to the answer and

this is where teaching and testing comes in) to see if high

functioning receptive responding is possible (asking them

> something that a peer their age should know).

> My son is also very visual but he's also a listener and I didn't

> know this until I saw Soma M. work with him (www.halo-soma.org)

>

> Fired up, I taught manding by teaching him to read first (and many

adults with brain injury and Broca's aphasia read and write and many

nonverbal kids are hyperlexic) then we have transfered that to sign

and now he is slowly trying to drop some sign out to speak. He is

manding many things.

> I want to eat the a cookie.

> I want to drink the tea in a cup.

> I vary that by varying the sentence. And he'll self correct...

> He gives very quick spontaneous three word mands as a result but

> sometimes I require the entire sentence because I'm working to

build those muscles in his mouth.

I am teaching sign as the second skill for movement because I have a

hearing impaired daughter that used to use sign before dropping it

out to speak. Reading was first because of the original procedure

which did not isolate the SD but actually had several SD/Sdelta's

lined up (you know how our kids like to line things up).

>

> He also uses reading to intraverbal transfers which I think is

often done with advanced learners but Tillman never got out of the

beginner level.

>

> He still has a great difficulty finding the right words on his own

> but the more I have him read the more those oral muscles are

> reinforcing the topography of a word. Fluency is the goal but I am

allowing him time to get it out with a degree of mastery before

speeding things up. He does,however, respond to speak faster or

he'll imitate my signing pace.

>

> I know that all children are different but my son really had

serious stimulus control issues. He still needs prompting with

motor (make your mouth move, clean up that sign son but that is

getting better and once he gets going it is amazing to hear him

speak.

I've had to tweak VB procedures to fit my child (text to mand

transfers rather than echoic to mand) but I haven't deviated from

it's core premise and that is to create, shape and reinforce

communication and understanding.

However, the ABLLS addresses motor skills with a basic yes or no

answer. I've looked at that as a yes or no to

> fluent or spontaneous motor skills. If he can do it but isn't

> fluent or doesn't use it, it's a no. I think others do, as well.

>

>

> Mom to Tillman (8)

> who went on the Road Runner Express at 6 Flags and LOVED it!

>

> PS A fun read on the brain: Introduction to the Mind and Brain.

> I've loaned it out and can't remember the authors' names.

>

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> > Hi all,

> >

> > I wanted to know as someone who is considering VB. My son who

> is Autistic and Apraxic and Aphasic can anyone tell me if it has

> done any good for their son or daughter in the same condition? My

> son is very strong visually but i have noticed that sign langauge

> has helped his verbal language alot.

> >

> > Thanks for your input!!!

> >

> > Jane R.

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