Re: Questions re: treating strep with Cefdinir & children w/ autism

[Guest guest]

it's never a good idea to stop antibiotics mid stream. you should always take

them through to the end.  otherwise, the 'bug' can come back resistant to that

antibiotic and others in that family making it necessary to take stronger

antibiotics for longer periods of time. 

 

strep can kill people.  the virus can attack the heart.  that's why antibiotics

are necessary when strep is diagnosed. you can google strep to find out lots of

info on it.

 

not bad thinking on the doctor's part to give a script for the sibling as the

close contact would indicate probable exposure and save a trip back to the

doctor for that child.

Subject: Questions re: treating strep with Cefdinir &

children w/ autism

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Date: Saturday, April 26, 2008, 12:46 PM

Recently I've begun to question the biomedical aspects of autism and

ran across the articles about autism and the high use of antibiotics

to treat multiple ear infections in infants. In something I read

while reading about the antibiotics something was mentioned about the

prevalence of strep in autistic children. I can't remember exactly

where it was and I havent been able to find it again.

Tuesday my 5 yr. old was dx with strep (I was surprised bc for the

most part she didn't act sick) (she has PDD-NOS) & the nurse

practioner prescribed Cefdinir for her and her 2 yr. old sister (who

wasn't tested for strep but since they are siblings was prescribed

Cefdinir also). The 2 yr. old was given a breathing treatment and was

prescribed Albuterol as well.

I wanted to discuss the GFCG diet & mercury in vaccines & quickly ran

off something from online as well as an info. flyer about

neurotransmitter testing. After the change in demeanor to guarded and

vague in any discussion regarding these issues I decided it's time to

look for another doctor (she said she would have to give the

information to Dr. Natterer to look over & I still have yet to hear

from her). Now I recall her quickness to point out the serious

problems of untreated strep and yet no mention of any side effects

from the antibiotics.

My daughter had numerous ear infections all treated with antibiotics,

my concerns about her not reaching her milestones were dismissed, the

flu vaccines and immunizations are greatly pushed in their office (in

fact, there is a certificate on the wall from Cook's rewarding them

with 100% vaccination compliance) and now I don't trust anything they

say at all!!!!!

So, those of you who are more informed I need your opinion on a

couple of things. I have only given one dose to each child of the

Cefdinir so far.

Do I go ahead and give my 5 yr. old the Cefdinir until I find a dr. I

trust or is there an alternative or safer treatment?

What about the 2 yr. old? Now I question both the Cefdinir and the

Albuterol.

You can email me offline as well. I am just not sure what to do

because I don't know how long it is going to take for me to find

another doctor. I am considering a DAN doctor but they are so far

away (I live in Ft. Worth and they are in Coppell, Frisco or one of

those cities in North Dallas that take like an hour plus to drive).

They won't treat her for the strep will they? There's one

pediatrician I've thought about switching to if she takes the girls

insurance - Dr. Heflin. I know she's consistently been in Fort

Worth Magazines Top 100 Doctors for 2-3 yrs. now but I don't know how

receptive she's going to be to a parent who questions current

accepted medical practices and asks a lot of questions.

What are your thoughts on this matter?

[Guest guest]

Ooops, her name is Julee Morrow. And does anyone know any

developmental pediatricians around Ft. Worth/Dallas?

>

>

> Subject: Questions re: treating strep with

Cefdinir & children w/ autism

> To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> Date: Saturday, April 26, 2008, 12:46 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Recently I've begun to question the biomedical aspects of autism

and

> ran across the articles about autism and the high use of

antibiotics

> to treat multiple ear infections in infants. In something I read

> while reading about the antibiotics something was mentioned about

the

> prevalence of strep in autistic children. I can't remember exactly

> where it was and I havent been able to find it again.

> Tuesday my 5 yr. old was dx with strep (I was surprised bc for the

> most part she didn't act sick) (she has PDD-NOS) & the nurse

> practioner prescribed Cefdinir for her and her 2 yr. old sister

(who

> wasn't tested for strep but since they are siblings was prescribed

> Cefdinir also). The 2 yr. old was given a breathing treatment and

was

> prescribed Albuterol as well.

> I wanted to discuss the GFCG diet & mercury in vaccines & quickly

ran

> off something from online as well as an info. flyer about

> neurotransmitter testing. After the change in demeanor to guarded

and

> vague in any discussion regarding these issues I decided it's time

to

> look for another doctor (she said she would have to give the

> information to Dr. Natterer to look over & I still have yet to hear

> from her). Now I recall her quickness to point out the serious

> problems of untreated strep and yet no mention of any side effects

> from the antibiotics.

> My daughter had numerous ear infections all treated with

antibiotics,

> my concerns about her not reaching her milestones were dismissed,

the

> flu vaccines and immunizations are greatly pushed in their office

(in

> fact, there is a certificate on the wall from Cook's rewarding them

> with 100% vaccination compliance) and now I don't trust anything

they

> say at all!!!!!

> So, those of you who are more informed I need your opinion on a

> couple of things. I have only given one dose to each child of the

> Cefdinir so far.

> Do I go ahead and give my 5 yr. old the Cefdinir until I find a dr.

I

> trust or is there an alternative or safer treatment?

> What about the 2 yr. old? Now I question both the Cefdinir and the

> Albuterol.

> You can email me offline as well. I am just not sure what to do

> because I don't know how long it is going to take for me to find

> another doctor. I am considering a DAN doctor but they are so far

> away (I live in Ft. Worth and they are in Coppell, Frisco or one of

> those cities in North Dallas that take like an hour plus to drive).

> They won't treat her for the strep will they? There's one

> pediatrician I've thought about switching to if she takes the girls

> insurance - Dr. Heflin. I know she's consistently been in

Fort

> Worth Magazines Top 100 Doctors for 2-3 yrs. now but I don't know

how

> receptive she's going to be to a parent who questions current

> accepted medical practices and asks a lot of questions.

> What are your thoughts on this matter?

>

[Guest guest]

If your doctor thought Albuterol was necessary, there must be some breathing

problems. Albuterol is a bronchial dilator that is frequently given to

children with asthma or bronchitis. I'd be cautious about stopping it. My

oldest son (not the one with autism) has had it prescribed a couple of times

and it makes him a bit shaky and hyper. My great niece has also had it.

She has been hospitalized several times when her asthma gets out of control.

Personally, I just went through a bout with bronchitis and it's not fun.

Felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest. Antibiotics helped immensely

so I'd be careful about stopping anything. Nagla, who is on this list, is

very knowledgeable about alternative treatments. Maybe she will reply soon.

Tonya

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

[mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:46 PM

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Subject: Questions re: treating strep with Cefdinir

& children w/ autism

Recently I've begun to question the biomedical aspects of autism and

ran across the articles about autism and the high use of antibiotics

to treat multiple ear infections in infants. In something I read

while reading about the antibiotics something was mentioned about the

prevalence of strep in autistic children. I can't remember exactly

where it was and I havent been able to find it again.

Tuesday my 5 yr. old was dx with strep (I was surprised bc for the

most part she didn't act sick) (she has PDD-NOS) & the nurse

practioner prescribed Cefdinir for her and her 2 yr. old sister (who

wasn't tested for strep but since they are siblings was prescribed

Cefdinir also). The 2 yr. old was given a breathing treatment and was

prescribed Albuterol as well.

I wanted to discuss the GFCG diet & mercury in vaccines & quickly ran

off something from online as well as an info. flyer about

neurotransmitter testing. After the change in demeanor to guarded and

vague in any discussion regarding these issues I decided it's time to

look for another doctor (she said she would have to give the

information to Dr. Natterer to look over & I still have yet to hear

from her). Now I recall her quickness to point out the serious

problems of untreated strep and yet no mention of any side effects

from the antibiotics.

My daughter had numerous ear infections all treated with antibiotics,

my concerns about her not reaching her milestones were dismissed, the

flu vaccines and immunizations are greatly pushed in their office (in

fact, there is a certificate on the wall from Cook's rewarding them

with 100% vaccination compliance) and now I don't trust anything they

say at all!!!!!

So, those of you who are more informed I need your opinion on a

couple of things. I have only given one dose to each child of the

Cefdinir so far.

Do I go ahead and give my 5 yr. old the Cefdinir until I find a dr. I

trust or is there an alternative or safer treatment?

What about the 2 yr. old? Now I question both the Cefdinir and the

Albuterol.

You can email me offline as well. I am just not sure what to do

because I don't know how long it is going to take for me to find

another doctor. I am considering a DAN doctor but they are so far

away (I live in Ft. Worth and they are in Coppell, Frisco or one of

those cities in North Dallas that take like an hour plus to drive).

They won't treat her for the strep will they? There's one

pediatrician I've thought about switching to if she takes the girls

insurance - Dr. Heflin. I know she's consistently been in Fort

Worth Magazines Top 100 Doctors for 2-3 yrs. now but I don't know how

receptive she's going to be to a parent who questions current

accepted medical practices and asks a lot of questions.

What are your thoughts on this matter?

[Guest guest]

Anytime you start an antibiotic course, it's a good idea to finish

the course. I always give my kids and me a very good probiotic after

finishing the antibiotic course for at least a month to replenish the

good gut bacteria.

Strep infections and PANDAS:

http://www.enzymestory.com/PANDAS.html

http://intramural.nimh.nih.gov/pdn/web.htm

Treatment for OCD part of PANDAS:

http://intramural.nimh.nih.gov/pdn/web.htm

Enzymes for viruses:

http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionviruses.htm

http://www.tacanow.com/medical/comprehensive-anti-viral-autism.htm

In my family we use a lot of natural antivirals like virastop, olive

leaf extract, grapefruitseed extract. I keep several alternative

treatment books on hand and look up symptoms etc.. and see the

recommendations.

Mu favorite books are:

Encyclopedia of natural medicine by Murray and ph Pizzorno

Prescription for Nutritional healing by phyllis A Balch

Alternative Medicine by Burton Goldberg

In terms of asthma, my daughter had severe asthma since she was 3

years old, we went the conventional route for several years using

albuterol, steroids and inhalers, her asthma got worse and she was

allergic to the propellent in the inhalers so she couldn't use them.

We discovered that cutting down on dairy and eliminating it durings

attacks helped, same with sugar and artificial ingredients (colors

preservatives etc..)

We also found that cod liver oil, large doses of vitamin C and

Quericitin given daily, help a great deal. During severe attacks we

used a nebulizer with albuterol, but the side effects were terrible,

she gets shaky, her heart beats really fast, she cannot sleep, and it

effects her breathing in an adverse way in less than 4 hours (she

gets worse), so we decided to try acupuncture and immune boosting

supplements(Colostrum) during severe attacks. This combination in

addition to every thing else really worked and her asthma has almost

disapperared now that she is 22.

Nagla

>

> If your doctor thought Albuterol was necessary, there must be some

breathing

> problems. Albuterol is a bronchial dilator that is frequently

given to

> children with asthma or bronchitis. I'd be cautious about stopping

it. My

> oldest son (not the one with autism) has had it prescribed a couple

of times

> and it makes him a bit shaky and hyper. My great niece has also

had it.

> She has been hospitalized several times when her asthma gets out of

control.

> Personally, I just went through a bout with bronchitis and it's not

fun.

> Felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest. Antibiotics helped

immensely

> so I'd be careful about stopping anything. Nagla, who is on this

list, is

> very knowledgeable about alternative treatments. Maybe she will

reply soon.

>

>

>

> Tonya

>

>

>

> From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of

> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:46 PM

> To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> Subject: Questions re: treating strep with

Cefdinir

> & children w/ autism

>

>

>

> Recently I've begun to question the biomedical aspects of autism

and

> ran across the articles about autism and the high use of

antibiotics

> to treat multiple ear infections in infants. In something I read

> while reading about the antibiotics something was mentioned about

the

> prevalence of strep in autistic children. I can't remember exactly

> where it was and I havent been able to find it again.

> Tuesday my 5 yr. old was dx with strep (I was surprised bc for the

> most part she didn't act sick) (she has PDD-NOS) & the nurse

> practioner prescribed Cefdinir for her and her 2 yr. old sister

(who

> wasn't tested for strep but since they are siblings was prescribed

> Cefdinir also). The 2 yr. old was given a breathing treatment and

was

> prescribed Albuterol as well.

> I wanted to discuss the GFCG diet & mercury in vaccines & quickly

ran

> off something from online as well as an info. flyer about

> neurotransmitter testing. After the change in demeanor to guarded

and

> vague in any discussion regarding these issues I decided it's time

to

> look for another doctor (she said she would have to give the

> information to Dr. Natterer to look over & I still have yet to hear

> from her). Now I recall her quickness to point out the serious

> problems of untreated strep and yet no mention of any side effects

> from the antibiotics.

> My daughter had numerous ear infections all treated with

antibiotics,

> my concerns about her not reaching her milestones were dismissed,

the

> flu vaccines and immunizations are greatly pushed in their office

(in

> fact, there is a certificate on the wall from Cook's rewarding them

> with 100% vaccination compliance) and now I don't trust anything

they

> say at all!!!!!

> So, those of you who are more informed I need your opinion on a

> couple of things. I have only given one dose to each child of the

> Cefdinir so far.

> Do I go ahead and give my 5 yr. old the Cefdinir until I find a dr.

I

> trust or is there an alternative or safer treatment?

> What about the 2 yr. old? Now I question both the Cefdinir and the

> Albuterol.

> You can email me offline as well. I am just not sure what to do

> because I don't know how long it is going to take for me to find

> another doctor. I am considering a DAN doctor but they are so far

> away (I live in Ft. Worth and they are in Coppell, Frisco or one of

> those cities in North Dallas that take like an hour plus to drive).

> They won't treat her for the strep will they? There's one

> pediatrician I've thought about switching to if she takes the girls

> insurance - Dr. Heflin. I know she's consistently been in

Fort

> Worth Magazines Top 100 Doctors for 2-3 yrs. now but I don't know

how

> receptive she's going to be to a parent who questions current

> accepted medical practices and asks a lot of questions.

> What are your thoughts on this matter?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So what is a good probiotic? Also, I had remembered that in her

formula they add DHA ? & I took the DHA when I was pregnant with both

girls, which is essentially Omega 3 fatty acids, right? Now I know

that a rich source of Omega 3 fatty acids is cod liver oil so when I

went to Whole Foods (my first time) about a month ago I asked a lady

& bought Nordic Naturals Children's DHA. The thought was good but

implementing it hasn't been so great. I tried mixing it with

pineapple juice and that hasn't been very effective. For example,

this morning - just a couple of swallows and their glasses are still

in the kitchen. I thought pineapple and orange juice were the 2 best

to disguise it in. Do you have any other suggestions?

Thanks,

>

> Recently I've begun to question the biomedical aspects of autism

and

> ran across the articles about autism and the high use of

antibiotics

> to treat multiple ear infections in infants. In something I read

> while reading about the antibiotics something was mentioned about

the

> prevalence of strep in autistic children. I can't remember exactly

> where it was and I havent been able to find it again.

> Tuesday my 5 yr. old was dx with strep (I was surprised bc for the

> most part she didn't act sick) (she has PDD-NOS) & the nurse

> practioner prescribed Cefdinir for her and her 2 yr. old sister

(who

> wasn't tested for strep but since they are siblings was prescribed

> Cefdinir also). The 2 yr. old was given a breathing treatment and

was

> prescribed Albuterol as well.

> I wanted to discuss the GFCG diet & mercury in vaccines & quickly

ran

> off something from online as well as an info. flyer about

> neurotransmitter testing. After the change in demeanor to guarded

and

> vague in any discussion regarding these issues I decided it's time

to

> look for another doctor (she said she would have to give the

> information to Dr. Natterer to look over & I still have yet to hear

> from her). Now I recall her quickness to point out the serious

> problems of untreated strep and yet no mention of any side effects

> from the antibiotics.

> My daughter had numerous ear infections all treated with

antibiotics,

> my concerns about her not reaching her milestones were dismissed,

the

> flu vaccines and immunizations are greatly pushed in their office

(in

> fact, there is a certificate on the wall from Cook's rewarding them

> with 100% vaccination compliance) and now I don't trust anything

they

> say at all!!!!!

> So, those of you who are more informed I need your opinion on a

> couple of things. I have only given one dose to each child of the

> Cefdinir so far.

> Do I go ahead and give my 5 yr. old the Cefdinir until I find a dr.

I

> trust or is there an alternative or safer treatment?

> What about the 2 yr. old? Now I question both the Cefdinir and the

> Albuterol.

> You can email me offline as well. I am just not sure what to do

> because I don't know how long it is going to take for me to find

> another doctor. I am considering a DAN doctor but they are so far

> away (I live in Ft. Worth and they are in Coppell, Frisco or one of

> those cities in North Dallas that take like an hour plus to drive).

> They won't treat her for the strep will they? There's one

> pediatrician I've thought about switching to if she takes the girls

> insurance - Dr. Heflin. I know she's consistently been in

Fort

> Worth Magazines Top 100 Doctors for 2-3 yrs. now but I don't know

how

> receptive she's going to be to a parent who questions current

> accepted medical practices and asks a lot of questions.

> What are your thoughts on this matter?

>

[Guest guest]

Personally, I like Klaire Labs Ther Biotic Complete, and I like

Thorne Lab's Lactobasillus Sporagenes. I have heard parents say good

things ab out Kirkman's pro bio gold as well.

When my son was younger I mixed all his supplements in a teaspoon of

frozen, undilluted orange juice concentrate and used a medicine

syringe to give it to him just like you would any important medicine

that has to be taken. This worked for us until he learned to swallow

pills. I see that Herb Mart and whole foods carry chewable

acidophillis and they also have Nordic naturals chewable gel caps for

kids (strawberry and another flavor, i cna't remember what it was).

Nagla

> >

> > Recently I've begun to question the biomedical aspects of autism

> and

> > ran across the articles about autism and the high use of

> antibiotics

> > to treat multiple ear infections in infants. In something I read

> > while reading about the antibiotics something was mentioned about

> the

> > prevalence of strep in autistic children. I can't remember

exactly

> > where it was and I havent been able to find it again.

> > Tuesday my 5 yr. old was dx with strep (I was surprised bc for

the

> > most part she didn't act sick) (she has PDD-NOS) & the nurse

> > practioner prescribed Cefdinir for her and her 2 yr. old sister

> (who

> > wasn't tested for strep but since they are siblings was

prescribed

> > Cefdinir also). The 2 yr. old was given a breathing treatment and

> was

> > prescribed Albuterol as well.

> > I wanted to discuss the GFCG diet & mercury in vaccines & quickly

> ran

> > off something from online as well as an info. flyer about

> > neurotransmitter testing. After the change in demeanor to guarded

> and

> > vague in any discussion regarding these issues I decided it's

time

> to

> > look for another doctor (she said she would have to give the

> > information to Dr. Natterer to look over & I still have yet to

hear

> > from her). Now I recall her quickness to point out the serious

> > problems of untreated strep and yet no mention of any side

effects

> > from the antibiotics.

> > My daughter had numerous ear infections all treated with

> antibiotics,

> > my concerns about her not reaching her milestones were dismissed,

> the

> > flu vaccines and immunizations are greatly pushed in their office

> (in

> > fact, there is a certificate on the wall from Cook's rewarding

them

> > with 100% vaccination compliance) and now I don't trust anything

> they

> > say at all!!!!!

> > So, those of you who are more informed I need your opinion on a

> > couple of things. I have only given one dose to each child of the

> > Cefdinir so far.

> > Do I go ahead and give my 5 yr. old the Cefdinir until I find a

dr.

> I

> > trust or is there an alternative or safer treatment?

> > What about the 2 yr. old? Now I question both the Cefdinir and

the

> > Albuterol.

> > You can email me offline as well. I am just not sure what to do

> > because I don't know how long it is going to take for me to find

> > another doctor. I am considering a DAN doctor but they are so far

> > away (I live in Ft. Worth and they are in Coppell, Frisco or one

of

> > those cities in North Dallas that take like an hour plus to

drive).

> > They won't treat her for the strep will they? There's one

> > pediatrician I've thought about switching to if she takes the

girls

> > insurance - Dr. Heflin. I know she's consistently been in

> Fort

> > Worth Magazines Top 100 Doctors for 2-3 yrs. now but I don't know

> how

> > receptive she's going to be to a parent who questions current

> > accepted medical practices and asks a lot of questions.

> > What are your thoughts on this matter?

> >

>