Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 here here omg are we one in the same? vicodin, predisone? sad sad world... In a message dated 3/14/2005 7:31:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, chaospearl@... writes: I have to weigh in on the "drug addict!!" thing too. I HATE that stigma. I take, among other things, Vicodin. It's a narcotic painkiller. I've taken it daily for close to four years now. Am I an addict? Technically yes... if I stop taking it, I go into physical withdrawal, and that's really ugly. If I stop taking prednisone, I'd probably DIE. My heart would stop from the shock. Why is it that no one thinks I'm a prednisone addict? Are there any Remicade addicts out there? HEY! You're addicted to methotrexate! You need help! This is an INTERVENTION!! It's such crap. I take Vicodin for my pain the same way I take prednisone. And let me tell you, the side effects from Vicodin include... let's see... ah yes, there aren't any. Sometimes slight nausea, but other than that, no. Side effects from prednisone? Got a few hours to list 'em? My name is Jenni and I am NOT a drug addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 One thing has really bothered me about chronic pain and pain management… The whole, be careful or you’ll get addicted thing… I know it must be possible, but I haven’t found a thing that takes my pain away as of yet (I’m in little pain when my body decides to give me a break), so if I need management, when I go off something that is supposed to help, of course the pain is worse and I want to get back on it. Now I haven’t had anyone tell me I was nearing addiction or abuse (how on earth could I abuse it?????!) but there aren’t many things that irk me more than watching some nurse, loved one or even a television show, treating people who suffer with chronic pain like eventual addicts. There is no imagined problem here, it’s a real physical issue that destroys a Productive living and it should be treated in an intelligent, rational way. Anyway. There’s my vent. Lol Happy Monday yellow Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: today it is Skyelor [mailto:gonzo_skye@...] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:50 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: GOOD MORNING yes it is well the sky says it is.I again got the blessing of watching it rise high over the Rincons. Hello Annette. Ahhh I am actually at a loss for words.. Not good for a writer.Oh no..Well I got up early and felt good for at least 1/2hr. Then had to pill in or should I say shoval in the meds.But I am thankful for them.I remember going thru that horrible state where thr Drs don't believe you and wont give you anything stong like you need.It took me almost 10 years and the pain is just burnt into my Central nervous System (CNS) Thabks to all the drs that I saw who didnot listen well in med school,and finish towards the bottom of thier class. Now though I have the top of the class. Much better . I still wish they would give me injectable morphine it is better than being on 3 different high potent Narcotics. My body is already addicted.. Not an abuser..Difference....Well that was cheery for the morn. Some one else..please write..Hey where are you? Skye May this day bring your way a blessing unexpectantly remember to be thankful for something and you will not grow bitter.................Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I agree whole heartedly. So let's look at it (semi) rationally (it is me remember): I have chronic pain. I take strong meds to help deal with the pain and have a life. I get addicted to the meds. So what's the choice here? Find a friggin CURE! Stop allocating research money on the sex life of the Mississippi tree frog. They do fine all by the themselves and have for eons. Knowing how they "do it" is gonna help me how??? ----- Original Message ----- From: Zoom Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 16:48 Subject: RE: GOOD MORNING One thing has really bothered me about chronic pain and pain management… The whole, be careful or you’ll get addicted thing… I know it must be possible, but I haven’t found a thing that takes my pain away as of yet (I’m in little pain when my body decides to give me a break), so if I need management, when I go off something that is supposed to help, of course the pain is worse and I want to get back on it. Now I haven’t had anyone tell me I was nearing addiction or abuse (how on earth could I abuse it?????!) but there aren’t many things that irk me more than watching some nurse, loved one or even a television show, treating people who suffer with chronic pain like eventual addicts. There is no imagined problem here, it’s a real physical issue that destroys a Productive living and it should be treated in an intelligent, rational way. Anyway. There’s my vent. Lol Happy Monday yellow Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message-----From: today it is Skyelor [mailto:gonzo_skye@...] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:50 AMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: GOOD MORNING yes it is well the sky says it is.I again got the blessing of watching it rise high over the Rincons. Hello Annette. Ahhh I am actually at a loss for words.. Not good for a writer.Oh no..Well I got up early and felt good for at least 1/2hr. Then had to pill in or should I say shoval in the meds.But I am thankful for them.I remember going thru that horrible state where thr Drs don't believe you and wont give you anything stong like you need.It took me almost 10 years and the pain is just burnt into my Central nervous System(CNS) Thabks to all the drs that I saw who didnot listen well in med school,and finish towards the bottom of thier class. Now though I have the top of the class. Much better . I still wish they would give me injectable morphine it is better than being on 3 different high potent Narcotics. My body is already addicted.. Not an abuser..Difference....Well that was cheery for the morn. Some one else..please write..Hey where are you? Skye May this day bring your way a blessing unexpectantlyremember to be thankful for somethingand you will not grow bitter.................Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I have to weigh in on the "drug addict!!" thing too. I HATE that stigma. I take, among other things, Vicodin. It's a narcotic painkiller. I've taken it daily for close to four years now. Am I an addict? Technically yes... if I stop taking it, I go into physical withdrawal, and that's really ugly. If I stop taking prednisone, I'd probably DIE. My heart would stop from the shock. Why is it that no one thinks I'm a prednisone addict? Are there any Remicade addicts out there? HEY! You're addicted to methotrexate! You need help! This is an INTERVENTION!! It's such crap. I take Vicodin for my pain the same way I take prednisone. And let me tell you, the side effects from Vicodin include... let's see... ah yes, there aren't any. Sometimes slight nausea, but other than that, no. Side effects from prednisone? Got a few hours to list 'em? My name is Jenni and I am NOT a drug addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 AMEN! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenni Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 17:30 Subject: Re: GOOD MORNING I have to weigh in on the "drug addict!!" thing too. I HATE that stigma. I take, among other things, Vicodin. It's a narcotic painkiller. I've taken it daily for close to four years now. Am I an addict? Technically yes... if I stop taking it, I go into physical withdrawal, and that's really ugly. If I stop taking prednisone, I'd probably DIE. My heart would stop from the shock. Why is it that no one thinks I'm a prednisone addict? Are there any Remicade addicts out there? HEY! You're addicted to methotrexate! You need help! This is an INTERVENTION!! It's such crap. I take Vicodin for my pain the same way I take prednisone. And let me tell you, the side effects from Vicodin include... let's see... ah yes, there aren't any. Sometimes slight nausea, but other than that, no. Side effects from prednisone? Got a few hours to list 'em? My name is Jenni and I am NOT a drug addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I have some vicodin left from my carpal tunnel surgery. Once in awhile I take one for pain and the last time I had some kind of reaction. One night I took it and couldn't sleep because I felt real itchy in the face, in the ears and on my head. My husband thought I was nuts when I told him how I felt that night. I think it was some kind of odd reaction. Normally it just puts me to sleep and takes away the pain. The only thing I take regularly is prednisone (weaning off now) and naproxen. I don't have any heavier drugs that were prescribed by my RA dr...only from my surgeries. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maggie http://www.4HockeyFans.com http://www.4FloridaHockey.com -----Original Message-----From: Jenni [mailto:chaospearl@...]Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:30 PMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: GOOD MORNING I have to weigh in on the "drug addict!!" thing too. I HATE that stigma. I take, among other things, Vicodin. It's a narcotic painkiller. I've taken it daily for close to four years now. Am I an addict? Technically yes... if I stop taking it, I go into physical withdrawal, and that's really ugly. If I stop taking prednisone, I'd probably DIE. My heart would stop from the shock. Why is it that no one thinks I'm a prednisone addict? Are there any Remicade addicts out there? HEY! You're addicted to methotrexate! You need help! This is an INTERVENTION!! It's such crap. I take Vicodin for my pain the same way I take prednisone. And let me tell you, the side effects from Vicodin include... let's see... ah yes, there aren't any. Sometimes slight nausea, but other than that, no. Side effects from prednisone? Got a few hours to list 'em? My name is Jenni and I am NOT a drug addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Maggie, Itchiness can be a side effect of any narcotic. You're definitely not nuts. Normally you have to take a whole lot for it to occur... I always itch myself raw when I'm in the hospital on a morphine drip post-surgery, and they give me IV Bendryl. The small dose I take orally at home doesn't cause it. Maybe you're particularly sensitive? Or I'm particularly insensitive... Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 As I am on a Percoset tonight...Yes, I believe it is impossible to get addicted to pain meds when you are actually in pain. I only take pain meds when I absolutely can't stand it, or, when I have been in a medium level of pain all day and need a break. My current Rheumy is one of those who fears addiction and that is scary but I have some other docs who are more sympathetic. I say, " Step into my body for a few minutes, then judge whether or not you would take pain meds. " > One thing has really bothered me about chronic pain and pain management. > > The whole, be careful or you'll get addicted thing. > > I know it must be possible, but I haven't found a thing that takes my > pain away > > as of yet (I'm in little pain when my body decides to give me a break), > so if I need > > management, when I go off something that is supposed to help, of course > the pain > > is worse and I want to get back on it. > > Now I haven't had anyone tell me I was nearing addiction or abuse (how > on earth > > could I abuse it?????!) but there aren't many things that irk me more > than watching > > some nurse, loved one or even a television show, treating people who > suffer with > > chronic pain like eventual addicts. > > There is no imagined problem here, it's a real physical issue that > destroys a > > Productive living and it should be treated in an intelligent, rational > way. > > > > Anyway. > > There's my vent. Lol > > Happy Monday > > yellow > > > > Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. > > Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, > > > nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: today it is Skyelor [mailto:gonzo_skye@y...] > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:50 AM > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: GOOD MORNING > > > > > yes it is well the sky says it is.I again got the blessing of > watching it rise high over the Rincons. Hello Annette. Ahhh I am > actually at a loss for words.. Not good for a writer.Oh no..Well I > got up early and felt good for at least 1/2hr. Then had to pill in > or should I say shoval in the meds.But I am thankful for them.I > remember going thru that horrible state where thr Drs don't believe > you and wont give you anything stong like you need.It took me almost > 10 years and the pain is just burnt into my Central nervous System > (CNS) Thabks to all the drs that I saw who didnot listen well in med > school,and finish towards the bottom of thier class. Now though I > have the top of the class. Much better . I still wish they would > give me injectable morphine it is better than being on 3 different > high potent Narcotics. My body is already addicted.. Not an > abuser..Difference....Well that was cheery for the morn. Some one > else..please write..Hey where are you? Skye > > May this day bring your way > a blessing unexpectantly > remember to be thankful for something > and you will not grow bitter.................Skye > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I can’t take naproxen anymore, it drove my usually normal blood pressure up through the roof. I was really in a danger zone. I can’t mess around with that, since heart disease and hbpressure is prevalent on my dad’s side of the family and strokes on my mother’s… even though they live past 80… That’s really scary to me cause my options are still limited and as of this moment I seem to be working up to another huge flare (my regular third week blip is much more impressive than the last) and I’ve got a new job and a cross-country move to make… trying to keep calm… love and peace to you yellow Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: Maggie [mailto:meshouse@...] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:56 PM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: GOOD MORNING I have some vicodin left from my carpal tunnel surgery. Once in awhile I take one for pain and the last time I had some kind of reaction. One night I took it and couldn't sleep because I felt real itchy in the face, in the ears and on my head. My husband thought I was nuts when I told him how I felt that night. I think it was some kind of odd reaction. Normally it just puts me to sleep and takes away the pain. The only thing I take regularly is prednisone (weaning off now) and naproxen. I don't have any heavier drugs that were prescribed by my RA dr...only from my surgeries. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maggie http://www.4HockeyFans.com http://www.4FloridaHockey.com -----Original Message----- From: Jenni [mailto:chaospearl@...] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:30 PM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: GOOD MORNING I have to weigh in on the " drug addict!! " thing too. I HATE that stigma. I take, among other things, Vicodin. It's a narcotic painkiller. I've taken it daily for close to four years now. Am I an addict? Technically yes... if I stop taking it, I go into physical withdrawal, and that's really ugly. If I stop taking prednisone, I'd probably DIE. My heart would stop from the shock. Why is it that no one thinks I'm a prednisone addict? Are there any Remicade addicts out there? HEY! You're addicted to methotrexate! You need help! This is an INTERVENTION!! It's such crap. I take Vicodin for my pain the same way I take prednisone. And let me tell you, the side effects from Vicodin include... let's see... ah yes, there aren't any. Sometimes slight nausea, but other than that, no. Side effects from prednisone? Got a few hours to list 'em? My name is Jenni and I am NOT a drug addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 And if you try it and it isn't THE answer...will you care? Hugs, Silly Jacy ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcia Stoyle Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 07:48 Subject: Re: GOOD MORNING this may not be a popular thought, but I really feel that medical marijuana may be an answer....not THE answer, but what the heck .....gentle hugs, Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Maybe it’s not popular, but a good friend of mine from college used it through her worst flares and it proved to be her only help in those times. Still, she felt guilty and actually kept it a secret from me. -----Original Message----- From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:49 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: GOOD MORNING · this may not be a popular thought, but I really feel that medical marijuana may be an answer....not THE answer, but what the heck .....gentle hugs, Marcia .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 --- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , " Zoom " <zoom@p...> wrote: > Maybe it's not popular, but a good friend of mine from college used it > through her > > worst flares and it proved to be her only help in those times. > > Still, she felt guilty and actually kept it a secret from me. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@y...] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:49 AM > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: Re: GOOD MORNING > > Medical Marijuana......makes me wanna....sit and smoke all day blooms of smoke...coming my way...another..er..er..er. Sunny DAy > The musical Tune in my head was rippin.....Skye > * this may not be a popular thought, but I really feel that > medical marijuana may be an answer....not THE answer, but what the heck > .....gentle hugs, Marcia > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: gonzo_skye > Medical Marijuana......makes me wanna....sit and smoke all day blooms of smoke...coming my way...another..er..er..er. Sunny DAy > The musical Tune in my head was rippin.....Skye> * this may not be a popular thought, but I really feel that> medical marijuana may be an answer....not THE answer, but what the heck I've actually had several friends suggest medical marijuana lately. Would be worth a try if I lived any place except TX where they still sentence you to 99 years for small amounts. :-( Maybe I need to move to OR or CA. :-) At least with it, you might forget how much pain we're in. LOL Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Forgive me for my silence. I read each post and send healing Light to All. I look forward to workshops, study groups and especially getting to know everyone!!! Thank you for letting me join!!!! It is another beautiful day that we have been granted. Greet this day with open and loving arms!!!! Blessings of Love & Light to All!!!Namaste,Gray Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 " Namaste " ... yes it is another beautiful day that we have been granted dear friend, I am a new member too, and glad to meet you! much love to you, cyndi > > > Forgive me for my silence. I read each post and send healing Light to > All. I look forward to workshops, study groups and especially getting > to know everyone!!! Thank you for letting me join!!!! > > It is another beautiful day that we have been granted. Greet this day > with open and loving arms!!!! Blessings of Love & Light to All!!! > Namaste, > Gray Wolf > > [love.jpg love image by xo_sugar-bear] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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