Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 What if we’re all right??????? " Most people say that is it is the intellect which makes a great scientist. They are wrong: it is character. " Albert Einstein From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of A Chapman Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:52 PM To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: [sPAM]Re: Hereditary Component? those who believe vaccines cause autism don't want to hear about genetics. those who believe genetics cause autism don't want to hear about vaccines. everyone thinks they're right. Okay is it just me or is anyone else tired of the Hereditary component quote. If I had someone in my family with Autism I would have been looking for Autism I would have researched Autism. We have a big family tree and back 4 generations (until this one) there was not a single child who did not speak. And yes I would know if they were sent away we also don't keep secrets very well. There are around 50 kids between me and my 1st cousins 2 of us have Autism. These two are also under 13. There are no autistic adults. Now we do have ADD/ADHD, Dyslexia and my father in law died of ALS and my brother in law died of a virus of the heart. So a trigger? Maybe, but Hereditary Autism? Not without the trigger baby. BAM! too many vaccines too soon with to much crap in them. Green me up, save a generation, see you in DC. Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Thanks for posting—I’d only talked to 3 other people before who were sure that their kids had it from the beginning. S. " Most people say that is it is the intellect which makes a great scientist. They are wrong: it is character. " Albert Einstein From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Sharon Lemons Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:57 PM To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: [sPAM]Re: Hereditary Component? I'm with you. I have no doubts whatsoever that my children were born with autism. These listserves should be support each other. Sharon Lemons ashley proa <HYPERLINK " mailto:ashleyproa%40yahoo.com " ashleyproa@...> wrote: okay ladies and gents, this might be a touchy subject, but i feel like i have to throw in my two cents in this. I AM A MOTHER WHO IS CONVINCED THAT MY TWO AUTISTIC KIDS DID NOT GET IT FROM VACCINES. Long before thier MMR vaccines, we knew something was wrong. Having seen it in my oldest, i was convinced that something was wrong with my youngest when he was 9 months old, and i was right. My husband had another child before we were married and he is fine. I believe that his genes plus mine equal autistic children, as WE ARE TWO FOR TWO. I know that some of you will ask, so i will say that we delayed or refused the a lot of our secind son's vaccines, and HE IS MORE SEVERELY AUTISIC THAN OUR OLDEST, WHO BY THE WAY, STARTED SHOWING SIGNS AROUND 11-12 MONTHS. While i do not tow this as a party line for autism in general, this is the case for us.. I do not think that what we have is the norm, and if you truly believe that vaccines caused your child's autism, I BELIEVE YOU. No one will ever know them as you do, and i support all parents of children with autism. Ch ris and Trina Sherman <HYPERLINK " mailto:csherman7%40austin.rr.com " csherman7@...> wrote: Okay is it just me or is anyone else tired of the Hereditary component quote. If I had someone in my family with Autism I would have been looking for Autism I would have researched Autism. We have a big family tree and back 4 generations (until this one) there was not a single child who did not speak. And yes I would know if they were sent away we also don't keep secrets very well. There are around 50 kids between me and my 1st cousins 2 of us have Autism. These two are also under 13. There are no autistic adults. Now we do have ADD/ADHD, Dyslexia and my father in law died of ALS and my brother in law died of a virus of the heart. So a trigger? Maybe, but Hereditary Autism? Not without the trigger baby. BAM! too many vaccines too soon with to much crap in them. Green me up, save a generation, see you in DC. Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 From the begininning is also deceiving since babies recieve Hep B vaccine on day 2 in the Hospital, this can be the beginning of the damage. Nagla Okay is it > just me or is anyone else tired of the Hereditary component > quote. If I had someone in my family with Autism I would have been > looking for Autism I would have researched Autism. We have a big family > tree and back 4 generations (until this one) there was not a single > child who did not speak. And yes I would know if they were sent away we > also don't keep secrets very well. There are around 50 kids between me > and my 1st cousins 2 of us have Autism. These two are also under 13. > There are no autistic adults. Now we do have ADD/ADHD, Dyslexia and my > father in law died of ALS and my brother in law died of a virus of the > heart. So a trigger? Maybe, but Hereditary Autism? Not without the > trigger baby. BAM! too many vaccines too soon with to much crap in them. > Green me up, save a generation, see you in DC. > Trina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Mine are 23 and 24. They didn't do Hep B in the hospital then. I repeat we need to support everyone. Sharon Lemons asccnagla wrote: From the begininning is also deceiving since babies recieve Hep B vaccine on day 2 in the Hospital, this can be the beginning of the damage. Nagla Okay is it > just me or is anyone else tired of the Hereditary component > quote. If I had someone in my family with Autism I would have been > looking for Autism I would have researched Autism. We have a big family > tree and back 4 generations (until this one) there was not a single > child who did not speak. And yes I would know if they were sent away we > also don't keep secrets very well. There are around 50 kids between me > and my 1st cousins 2 of us have Autism. These two are also under 13. > There are no autistic adults. Now we do have ADD/ADHD, Dyslexia and my > father in law died of ALS and my brother in law died of a virus of the > heart. So a trigger? Maybe, but Hereditary Autism? Not without the > trigger baby. BAM! too many vaccines too soon with to much crap in them. > Green me up, save a generation, see you in DC. > Trina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Okay, don't shoot me, but I am fairly certain that it is genetically involved with my 2 children as well. I knew something was very wrong with my son by the time he was 3 months old. He didn't receive ANY shots at birth because he was a very, very sick premature baby. We have the RH incompatibility, but I didn't receive Rhogam, either, which is what caused my son to be so sick. (He almost died in utero, almost died the day he was born, etc. from the Rh problem). Anyway, both of my kids have had genetic testing because they both have multiple genetic anomalies. (For those of you unfamiliar, there are sometimes certain physical markers - characteristics- that can indicate a genetic disorder of some sort. My understanding is that one, two, or even three anomalies is not unusual, but more than 3 can indicate a problem.my kids have more than 5 each). We also have been involved with the Stanford Autism Genetics research study, and at one point were in some particular subgroup of the study because of the way my children's autism was manifested (at one time, one was considered pretty high functioning and one pretty low functioning according to the ADOS and ADI-R). Anyway, they both share some of the same anomalies, but also have some physical characteristics that are unique. But, again, science hasn't really caught up to all the genetic possibilities out there, and they didn't 't test positive for any KNOWN genetic disorders, although most doctors who have seen them think there is something there. nna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Hi nna, To respond to your message......On the other hand...My son was born normal, acted normal, cooed, smiled, looked you in the eyes, crawls, sat, walked ahead of time, and used to imitate talking on the phone,playing with toys,........etc until something happened between age 15 and 18 months. He started staring away, did not respond to his name, stopped babbling and became fixated with certain objects, and started walking on his toes. So far, all the genetic testing we have done have been negative. Re:[sPAM]Re: Hereditary Component? > Okay, don't shoot me, but I am fairly certain that it is genetically > involved with my 2 children as well. I knew something was very wrong with > my > son by the time he was 3 months old. He didn't receive ANY shots at birth > because he was a very, very sick premature baby. We have the RH > incompatibility, but I didn't receive > Rhogam, either, which is what caused my son to be so sick. (He almost died > in utero, almost died the day he was born, etc. from the Rh problem). > > > > Anyway, both of my kids have had genetic testing because they both have > multiple genetic anomalies. (For those of you unfamiliar, there are > sometimes certain physical markers - characteristics- that can indicate a > genetic disorder of some sort. My understanding is that one, two, or even > three anomalies is not unusual, but more than 3 can indicate a problem.my > kids have more than 5 each). > > > > We also have been involved with the Stanford Autism Genetics research > study, > and at one point were in some particular subgroup of the study because of > the way my children's autism was manifested (at one time, one was > considered > pretty high functioning and one pretty low functioning according to the > ADOS > and ADI-R). > > > > Anyway, they both share some of the same anomalies, but also have some > physical characteristics that are unique. But, again, science hasn't > really > caught up to all the genetic possibilities out there, and they didn't 't > test positive for any KNOWN genetic disorders, although most doctors who > have seen them think there is something there. > > > > nna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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