Re: Trouble sleeping? OT

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In a message dated 06/12/2000 12:15:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

sheba2000_us@... writes:

<< I just wanted to see if anyone had the same problem and had

found something effective but not so toxic. >>

I have read milk, even when taken cold, does induce drowsiness

I use Melatonin when I feel too wired to sleep

(check with your doctor first)

Avoid using the bedroom for anything but sleep and try to get fresh air

Barb

who has little sleep problems since our son the night owl moved out

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Finding the right medication to work for you is tough enough but

dealing with side effects makes it even worse.

When I was on an antidepressant, I found that even though a common

side effect was drowsiness - for me it kept me up at night so I had to

take the pill in the morning instead of the evening. You might want

to try it. Maybe it won't make you as loopy then either. You can

only hope. Lord knows I wouldn't need any help in the loopy

department and I am medication free (well, except for Prometrium,

fiber pills, mulit vitamin and a calcium pill). Guess I can't say

that I am pill free can I???? I hate taking pills. Remembering to

take them is bad enough but to have to swallow the big ones is such a

gag! LOL Good luck Judie. I hope you can find something that works

for you. Is there anything herbal out there she can take????

le

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Hi Judie,

I take anti-depressants, pain pills, muscle relaxants when I have to,

asthma meds, etc. for my fibromylagia, and assorted odd and end

problems. I had a suggestion from the Fibro board, tho, about when I

couldn't sleep, and the meds weren't doing the trick. She suggested

taking Tylenol PM. I have tried it a few times and it helps. It does

make me feel a little dopey in the morning, but not anymore than taking

some sinus meds or something that makes you feel a little weird, and it

wasn't as bad as the muscle relaxants (I don't like to take those when I

am going to be by myself with my kiddos).

My sis used to drink some of the Celestial Seasons Sleepy Time tea, and

she swore by it. I tried it, but with my pain and all, it didn't really

do much for me.

Good luck! I know how awful that can be!!

Regards,

K in Texas

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Judie wrote:

>

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I was just wondering if anyone has any tips for sleep.

> I've been taking sleep aides like Nytol, every day for

> quite a while and I know that can't be good for me.

> The doctor,(shrink), has given me anti-depressants plus

> mood stabilizilers>(Topamax)which I take at night and even

> though they make me loopy, they don't make me sleep.

> I've gone down on my dosage with them per his instructions

> anyway because I was just too dizzy all the the time.

> I meet with him in 2 months and I can ask him for something

> to sleep but I think he'll probably give me something

> heavier than Nytol and I don't necessarily think that's all

> that great an idea either so I thought I could take a

> little poll!*LOL*

> I'm trying to keep my exercise rountine going but it's been

> a struggle. I know that's a real factor.

> I just wanted to see if anyone had the same problem and had

> found something effective but not so toxic.

>

>Judy, I'm sorry you are having trouble sleeping. It wouldn't surprise me if

your medicine is the culprit. I'd start with calling your doctor and telling

him your problem, that you have been taking Nytol regularly but it's not

working, and that you don't want another " pill. " He may have further

suggestions about your medicine (ex., changing the time of day when you take

your pills). It's worth a shot.

I don't have any quick fixes. Exercising in the evening helps me to

sleep. Also, I have to have at least 45 minutes of quiet to wind down

before going to bed. Reading works for me and a cup of nightime tea (no

caffeine). I know how yucky that feels not being able to sleep. Good

luck.

Elena

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Kava kava has a sedating effect, but I'd check with the doctor to

make sure it wouldn't interact badly with the meds.

;-)

F

> Finding the right medication to work for you is tough enough but

> dealing with side effects makes it even worse.

>

> When I was on an antidepressant, I found that even though a common

> side effect was drowsiness - for me it kept me up at night so I had

to

> take the pill in the morning instead of the evening. You might

want

> to try it. Maybe it won't make you as loopy then either. You can

> only hope. Lord knows I wouldn't need any help in the loopy

> department and I am medication free (well, except for Prometrium,

> fiber pills, mulit vitamin and a calcium pill). Guess I can't say

> that I am pill free can I???? I hate taking pills. Remembering to

> take them is bad enough but to have to swallow the big ones is such

a

> gag! LOL Good luck Judie. I hope you can find something that

works

> for you. Is there anything herbal out there she can take????

>

> le

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<<I was just wondering if anyone has any tips for sleep.

I've been taking sleep aides like Nytol, every day for

quite a while and I know that can't be good for me. >>

<<I just wanted to see if anyone had the same problem and had

found something effective but not so toxic.>>

Judie

A couple of suggestions I'm Ok now but was bad a couple of years ago:-

My main remedy is Lavender Essential oil, either in an oil vaporising

burner, or a drop on each side of my pillow (or on a hankie stuffed in the

corner of it because of the greasy marks) it's calming and relaxing. There

are other essential oils that are relaxing/calming but Lavender is my

favourite. There are other essential oils that are relaxing/calming but

Lavender is my favourite.

Elemis do a wonderful Aromapure Wild Lavender shower gel, it's not cheap but

fills the shower with the aroma and I used it after class (maybe an hour or

so before bed) to set me of in the right direction, I'm sure it helped me.

You can use drops of essential oils in a bath, but some ones are strong and

it would be advisable to check with you doc as they would be absorbed into

your system. (Like some shouldn't be used if pregnant)

My other personal remedy is my old hynotherapy tapes that were made while I

was having hypnotherapy sessions to try to unwind (and ultimately get some

sleep) even 18 months later they still work like a dream if I play them when

I've gone to bed - that's more expensive but to me it was priceless because

I found a good therapist and we worked well together.

Camomile tea is supposed to be good before bedtime, but I hate the smell of

it! There are others but I can't remember at the moment.

Jill

who tries to find 'natural' remedies before resorting to pills.

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" I was just wondering if anyone has any tips for sleep.

I've been taking sleep aides like Nytol, every day for

quite a while and I know that can't be good for me.

The doctor,(shrink), has given me anti-depressants plus

mood stabilizilers>(Topamax)which I take at night and even

though they make me loopy, they don't make me sleep.

I've gone down on my dosage with them per his instructions

anyway because I was just too dizzy all the the time.

Thanks in advance & sorry to bug you with my insomia!*lol*

Judie "

Hi,

I have a couple of natural ideas. The first one my mom swears by and I

have seen some info on it. Take two calcium tablets (with Vitiman D) one

hour before bedtime. It won't drug you, its good for you and it may work.

My mom was having trouble sleeping and didn't want to get addicted to

anything, so when she read it article on this, she tried it. Works on the

young and old, men and women. You can also try Valerian Root, which is a

herb. I believe you take two before bedtime.

Take care,

Kathy

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Thanks Elena,

The nytols work ok I just feel them in the morning then I

want caffiene so I dring espresso or pop a vivarin. So I'm

kind of just doing upper & downers all the time and I'd

like to break the cycle.

I think I need to schedule the wind down time. I tend to

come home and race around picking up the place and being

really manic, mainly because I'm trying to avoid eating.

I guess I'm still adjusting to being married and not just

that but not being alone. I was just alone for so many

years and so isolated I'm still not sure how to act and

some nights I feel awkward if I want to go get a bath by

myself or go read instead of watching TV. It's almost like

I'm all there or I'm totally shut off from him. I guess

I'll just have to work on not being so neurotic!*lol*

Judie

--- etcarroll wrote:

> Judie wrote:

> >

> > Hello Everyone,

> >

> > I was just wondering if anyone has any tips for sleep.

> > I've been taking sleep aides like Nytol, every day for

> > quite a while and I know that can't be good for me.

> > The doctor,(shrink), has given me anti-depressants plus

> > mood stabilizilers>(Topamax)which I take at night and

> even

> > though they make me loopy, they don't make me sleep.

> > I've gone down on my dosage with them per his

> instructions

> > anyway because I was just too dizzy all the the time.

> > I meet with him in 2 months and I can ask him for

> something

> > to sleep but I think he'll probably give me something

> > heavier than Nytol and I don't necessarily think that's

> all

> > that great an idea either so I thought I could take a

> > little poll!*LOL*

> > I'm trying to keep my exercise rountine going but it's

> been

> > a struggle. I know that's a real factor.

> > I just wanted to see if anyone had the same problem and

> had

> > found something effective but not so toxic.

> >

> >Judy, I'm sorry you are having trouble sleeping. It

> wouldn't surprise me if your medicine is the culprit.

> I'd start with calling your doctor and telling him your

> problem, that you have been taking Nytol regularly but

> it's not working, and that you don't want another " pill. "

> He may have further suggestions about your medicine

> (ex., changing the time of day when you take your pills).

> It's worth a shot.

>

> I don't have any quick fixes. Exercising in the evening

> helps me to

> sleep. Also, I have to have at least 45 minutes of quiet

> to wind down

> before going to bed. Reading works for me and a cup of

> nightime tea (no

> caffeine). I know how yucky that feels not being able to

> sleep. Good

> luck.

>

> Elena

>

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