God is in the details: Reading Loving What Is

[Guest guest]

,

For me, I think it's like learning a foreign language. There have

been many layers of learning that I needed. It has a been a very

rich experience. Yes, it happened in a natural, organic way, but as

I became more and more ready to learn 's methods, I found I

needed and wanted to fill myself up with as much of her energy and

teachings as I could. 2 Books, books on cd, her website,and this

forum.

Years ago a friend of mine sent me 's pamphlet with her 4

questions. I thought, " Oh puleeeze! Give me a break. " I put it away

and forgot about it. Then about a year and a half ago, I discovered

Loving What Is, and decided to take a look. Wow! I was blown away.

It's a whole lot more than just 4 questions, as far as I was

concerned. The context in which the questions are taught added so

much more richness and meaning than that little pamphlet ever did.

Yes, I wouldnt doubt that there are some souls who can readily grasp

the essence of the work with just the bare minumum explanation, but

not me!

I am now on my second reading of Cry In The Desert. Now I just read

a few pages every night before bed, just to take in 's energy

and fill myself up before I sleep.

Love

> > > > > > > > >> Whose business is it if I use technology to

enhance

> > my

> > > > > face?

> > > > > > > Still

> > > > > > > > >> mine.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Definitely your business, . I still ponder

> this,

> > > > though.

> > > > > > > > > You use the word " enhance. " That implies that that

> you

> > > > feel

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > having fewer wrinkles is better, no? I am guessing

> it

> > > > > wouldn't

> > > > > > > FEEL

> > > > > > > > > any better. Like if you were lying in the dark,

> would

> > > your

> > > > > > face

> > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > any better without wrinkles? So how is it better?

It

> > > LOOKS

> > > > > > better,

> > > > > > > > > right? To other people?

> > > > > > > > No.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And you know that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is saying, is that there is action

without

> > > > motives.

> > > > > > > > Action without thought.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sometimes we forget that. We can even go as far as

to

> > > > > believing

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > there would be NO action WITHOUT motives.

> > > > > > > > When actually it is the other way around: there is

no

> > > action

> > > > > > WITH

> > > > > > > > motives. Motives... don't do action. They don't do

> > > anything.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They are just thoughts. Come to pass. Don't MAKE

> > anything

> > > > > happen.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Don't TRY to go there. If you really want to ponder

> > about

> > > > it,

> > > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > yourself if you can find ANYTHING you have ever done

> > > without

> > > > a

> > > > > > > motive.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then you may have a place to start from.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you were stranded on a desert island for the

rest

> > of

> > > > your

> > > > > > life,

> > > > > > > > > with only you and a plastic surgeon, would you

have

> > the

> > > > > > surgery?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > None of my business, but I'm asking anyhow.

> > > > > > > > Yes, but you are asking the wrong person.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And it even is the " wrong " question!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When I read about wanting to get surgery

> because

> > > she

> > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > 100

> > > > > > > > > pounds and had lots of excess skin hanging from

her

> > > neck,

> > > > I

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > imagine that would FEEL uncomfortable, swinging

> around

> > > > when

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > moved.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I see your point in the ordering in a restaurant

> > story,

> > > > but

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > has nothing to do with how you appear to other

> people.

> > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > what I

> > > > > > > > > am getting at is, is there a reason that has

nothing

> > to

> > > do

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > you appear to others, that you would have cosmetic

> > > > surgery?

> > > > > If

> > > > > > > not,

> > > > > > > > > why not just say that you want to look better to

> other

> > > > > people?

> > > > > > > More

> > > > > > > > > refreshed, less tired, younger, whatever?

> > > > > > > > Karin, if you are really interested in this:

> > > > > > > > What do you see when you look in the mirror?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Who are you around ugly people?

> > > > > > > > - How do you feel?

> > > > > > > > - What do you think of them?

> > > > > > > > - What advice do you have for them?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm imagining I would find it refreshing if

> > > > said, " I'd

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > reach more people with The Work, and having

surgery

> > > would

> > > > > make

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > look better on TV and at workshops, and/or I like

> > > feeling

> > > > > > pretty

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > other people, so I decided to do it. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Personally I find this subject interesting, and

> > perhaps

> > > I

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > never

> > > > > > > > > be enlightened enough to not find it so.

> > > > > > > > Well, keep on running, then!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take care.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > ___________________________________________________________

> > > > > > > > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC:

> > > > > > > http://messenger.yahoo.de

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for sharing your experience. It seems we all get exactly what we need,

when we need it. No mistakes.

Cheers,

wrote:

,

For me, I think it's like learning a foreign language. There have

been many layers of learning that I needed. It has a been a very

rich experience. Yes, it happened in a natural, organic way, but as

I became more and more ready to learn 's methods, I found I

needed and wanted to fill myself up with as much of her energy and

teachings as I could. 2 Books, books on cd, her website,and this

forum.

Years ago a friend of mine sent me 's pamphlet with her 4

questions. I thought, " Oh puleeeze! Give me a break. " I put it away

and forgot about it. Then about a year and a half ago, I discovered

Loving What Is, and decided to take a look. Wow! I was blown away.

It's a whole lot more than just 4 questions, as far as I was

concerned. The context in which the questions are taught added so

much more richness and meaning than that little pamphlet ever did.

Yes, I wouldnt doubt that there are some souls who can readily grasp

the essence of the work with just the bare minumum explanation, but

not me!

I am now on my second reading of Cry In The Desert. Now I just read

a few pages every night before bed, just to take in 's energy

and fill myself up before I sleep.

Love

> > > > > > > > >> Whose business is it if I use technology to

enhance

> > my

> > > > > face?

> > > > > > > Still

> > > > > > > > >> mine.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Definitely your business, . I still ponder

> this,

> > > > though.

> > > > > > > > > You use the word " enhance. " That implies that that

> you

> > > > feel

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > having fewer wrinkles is better, no? I am guessing

> it

> > > > > wouldn't

> > > > > > > FEEL

> > > > > > > > > any better. Like if you were lying in the dark,

> would

> > > your

> > > > > > face

> > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > any better without wrinkles? So how is it better?

It

> > > LOOKS

> > > > > > better,

> > > > > > > > > right? To other people?

> > > > > > > > No.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And you know that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is saying, is that there is action

without

> > > > motives.

> > > > > > > > Action without thought.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sometimes we forget that. We can even go as far as

to

> > > > > believing

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > there would be NO action WITHOUT motives.

> > > > > > > > When actually it is the other way around: there is

no

> > > action

> > > > > > WITH

> > > > > > > > motives. Motives... don't do action. They don't do

> > > anything.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They are just thoughts. Come to pass. Don't MAKE

> > anything

> > > > > happen.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Don't TRY to go there. If you really want to ponder

> > about

> > > > it,

> > > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > yourself if you can find ANYTHING you have ever done

> > > without

> > > > a

> > > > > > > motive.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then you may have a place to start from.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you were stranded on a desert island for the

rest

> > of

> > > > your

> > > > > > life,

> > > > > > > > > with only you and a plastic surgeon, would you

have

> > the

> > > > > > surgery?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > None of my business, but I'm asking anyhow.

> > > > > > > > Yes, but you are asking the wrong person.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And it even is the " wrong " question!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When I read about wanting to get surgery

> because

> > > she

> > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > 100

> > > > > > > > > pounds and had lots of excess skin hanging from

her

> > > neck,

> > > > I

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > imagine that would FEEL uncomfortable, swinging

> around

> > > > when

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > moved.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I see your point in the ordering in a restaurant

> > story,

> > > > but

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > has nothing to do with how you appear to other

> people.

> > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > what I

> > > > > > > > > am getting at is, is there a reason that has

nothing

> > to

> > > do

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > you appear to others, that you would have cosmetic

> > > > surgery?

> > > > > If

> > > > > > > not,

> > > > > > > > > why not just say that you want to look better to

> other

> > > > > people?

> > > > > > > More

> > > > > > > > > refreshed, less tired, younger, whatever?

> > > > > > > > Karin, if you are really interested in this:

> > > > > > > > What do you see when you look in the mirror?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Who are you around ugly people?

> > > > > > > > - How do you feel?

> > > > > > > > - What do you think of them?

> > > > > > > > - What advice do you have for them?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm imagining I would find it refreshing if

> > > > said, " I'd

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > reach more people with The Work, and having

surgery

> > > would

> > > > > make

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > look better on TV and at workshops, and/or I like

> > > feeling

> > > > > > pretty

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > other people, so I decided to do it. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Personally I find this subject interesting, and

> > perhaps

> > > I

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > never

> > > > > > > > > be enlightened enough to not find it so.

> > > > > > > > Well, keep on running, then!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take care.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > ___________________________________________________________

> > > > > > > > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC:

> > > > > > > http://messenger.yahoo.de

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeffery

Tell me more about “Cry in the Desert”. This is the first I hear of it.

Where can I get a copy?

Ric

Re: God is in the details: Reading Loving What Is

,

Thanks for sharing your experience. It seems we all get exactly what we

need, when we need it. No mistakes.

Cheers,

wrote:

,

For me, I think it's like learning a foreign language. There have

been many layers of learning that I needed. It has a been a very

rich experience. Yes, it happened in a natural, organic way, but as

I became more and more ready to learn 's methods, I found I

needed and wanted to fill myself up with as much of her energy and

teachings as I could. 2 Books, books on cd, her website,and this

forum.

Years ago a friend of mine sent me 's pamphlet with her 4

questions. I thought, " Oh puleeeze! Give me a break. " I put it away

and forgot about it. Then about a year and a half ago, I discovered

Loving What Is, and decided to take a look. Wow! I was blown away.

It's a whole lot more than just 4 questions, as far as I was

concerned. The context in which the questions are taught added so

much more richness and meaning than that little pamphlet ever did.

Yes, I wouldnt doubt that there are some souls who can readily grasp

the essence of the work with just the bare minumum explanation, but

not me!

I am now on my second reading of Cry In The Desert. Now I just read

a few pages every night before bed, just to take in 's energy

and fill myself up before I sleep.

Love

> > > > > > > > >> Whose business is it if I use technology to

enhance

> > my

> > > > > face?

> > > > > > > Still

> > > > > > > > >> mine.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Definitely your business, . I still ponder

> this,

> > > > though.

> > > > > > > > > You use the word " enhance. " That implies that that

> you

> > > > feel

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > having fewer wrinkles is better, no? I am guessing

> it

> > > > > wouldn't

> > > > > > > FEEL

> > > > > > > > > any better. Like if you were lying in the dark,

> would

> > > your

> > > > > > face

> > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > any better without wrinkles? So how is it better?

It

> > > LOOKS

> > > > > > better,

> > > > > > > > > right? To other people?

> > > > > > > > No.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And you know that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is saying, is that there is action

without

> > > > motives.

> > > > > > > > Action without thought.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sometimes we forget that. We can even go as far as

to

> > > > > believing

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > there would be NO action WITHOUT motives.

> > > > > > > > When actually it is the other way around: there is

no

> > > action

> > > > > > WITH

> > > > > > > > motives. Motives... don't do action. They don't do

> > > anything.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They are just thoughts. Come to pass. Don't MAKE

> > anything

> > > > > happen.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Don't TRY to go there. If you really want to ponder

> > about

> > > > it,

> > > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > yourself if you can find ANYTHING you have ever done

> > > without

> > > > a

> > > > > > > motive.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then you may have a place to start from.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If you were stranded on a desert island for the

rest

> > of

> > > > your

> > > > > > life,

> > > > > > > > > with only you and a plastic surgeon, would you

have

> > the

> > > > > > surgery?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > None of my business, but I'm asking anyhow.

> > > > > > > > Yes, but you are asking the wrong person.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And it even is the " wrong " question!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When I read about wanting to get surgery

> because

> > > she

> > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > 100

> > > > > > > > > pounds and had lots of excess skin hanging from

her

> > > neck,

> > > > I

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > imagine that would FEEL uncomfortable, swinging

> around

> > > > when

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > moved.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I see your point in the ordering in a restaurant

> > story,

> > > > but

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > has nothing to do with how you appear to other

> people.

> > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > what I

> > > > > > > > > am getting at is, is there a reason that has

nothing

> > to

> > > do

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > you appear to others, that you would have cosmetic

> > > > surgery?

> > > > > If

> > > > > > > not,

> > > > > > > > > why not just say that you want to look better to

> other

> > > > > people?

> > > > > > > More

> > > > > > > > > refreshed, less tired, younger, whatever?

> > > > > > > > Karin, if you are really interested in this:

> > > > > > > > What do you see when you look in the mirror?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Who are you around ugly people?

> > > > > > > > - How do you feel?

> > > > > > > > - What do you think of them?

> > > > > > > > - What advice do you have for them?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm imagining I would find it refreshing if

> > > > said, " I'd

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > reach more people with The Work, and having

surgery

> > > would

> > > > > make

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > look better on TV and at workshops, and/or I like

> > > feeling

> > > > > > pretty

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > other people, so I decided to do it. "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Personally I find this subject interesting, and

> > perhaps

> > > I

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > never

> > > > > > > > > be enlightened enough to not find it so.

> > > > > > > > Well, keep on running, then!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take care.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > ___________________________________________________________

> > > > > > > > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC:

> > > > > > > http://messenger.yahoo.de

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ric, Cry in the Desert is out of print, but I searched the

internet and found a used copy on Half.com. they can be very pricy,

but I got lucky. It's about the early days of 's awakening. It

tells about her spiritual experiences, and about some of the people

whose lives were changed by her. The author interviews her family

members, and also talks about 's life before she got

enlightened. I just got a wonderful sense of who is, and how

her purpose is to bless the earth.

Love

> > > > > > > > > >> Whose business is it if I use technology to

> enhance

> > > my

> > > > > > face?

> > > > > > > > Still

> > > > > > > > > >> mine.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Definitely your business, . I still ponder

> > this,

> > > > > though.

> > > > > > > > > > You use the word " enhance. " That implies that

that

> > you

> > > > > feel

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > having fewer wrinkles is better, no? I am

guessing

> > it

> > > > > > wouldn't

> > > > > > > > FEEL

> > > > > > > > > > any better. Like if you were lying in the dark,

> > would

> > > > your

> > > > > > > face

> > > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > > any better without wrinkles? So how is it

better?

> It

> > > > LOOKS

> > > > > > > better,

> > > > > > > > > > right? To other people?

> > > > > > > > > No.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And you know that.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is saying, is that there is action

> without

> > > > > motives.

> > > > > > > > > Action without thought.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sometimes we forget that. We can even go as far as

> to

> > > > > > believing

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > there would be NO action WITHOUT motives.

> > > > > > > > > When actually it is the other way around: there is

> no

> > > > action

> > > > > > > WITH

> > > > > > > > > motives. Motives... don't do action. They don't do

> > > > anything.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They are just thoughts. Come to pass. Don't MAKE

> > > anything

> > > > > > happen.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Don't TRY to go there. If you really want to

ponder

> > > about

> > > > > it,

> > > > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > > yourself if you can find ANYTHING you have ever

done

> > > > without

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > motive.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Then you may have a place to start from.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If you were stranded on a desert island for the

> rest

> > > of

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > life,

> > > > > > > > > > with only you and a plastic surgeon, would you

> have

> > > the

> > > > > > > surgery?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > None of my business, but I'm asking anyhow.

> > > > > > > > > Yes, but you are asking the wrong person.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And it even is the " wrong " question!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > When I read about wanting to get surgery

> > because

> > > > she

> > > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > > 100

> > > > > > > > > > pounds and had lots of excess skin hanging from

> her

> > > > neck,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > imagine that would FEEL uncomfortable, swinging

> > around

> > > > > when

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > moved.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I see your point in the ordering in a restaurant

> > > story,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > has nothing to do with how you appear to other

> > people.

> > > I

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > what I

> > > > > > > > > > am getting at is, is there a reason that has

> nothing

> > > to

> > > > do

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > > you appear to others, that you would have

cosmetic

> > > > > surgery?

> > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > not,

> > > > > > > > > > why not just say that you want to look better to

> > other

> > > > > > people?

> > > > > > > > More

> > > > > > > > > > refreshed, less tired, younger, whatever?

> > > > > > > > > Karin, if you are really interested in this:

> > > > > > > > > What do you see when you look in the mirror?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Who are you around ugly people?

> > > > > > > > > - How do you feel?

> > > > > > > > > - What do you think of them?

> > > > > > > > > - What advice do you have for them?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I'm imagining I would find it refreshing if

> > > > > said, " I'd

> > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > reach more people with The Work, and having

> surgery

> > > > would

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > look better on TV and at workshops, and/or I

like

> > > > feeling

> > > > > > > pretty

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > other people, so I decided to do it. "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Personally I find this subject interesting, and

> > > perhaps

> > > > I

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > never

> > > > > > > > > > be enlightened enough to not find it so.

> > > > > > > > > Well, keep on running, then!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Take care.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > ___________________________________________________________

> > > > > > > > > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC:

> > > > > > > > http://messenger.yahoo.de

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for this, .

Ric

Re: God is in the details: Reading Loving What Is

Hi Ric, Cry in the Desert is out of print, but I searched the

internet and found a used copy on Half.com. they can be very pricy,

but I got lucky. It's about the early days of 's awakening. It

tells about her spiritual experiences, and about some of the people

whose lives were changed by her. The author interviews her family

members, and also talks about 's life before she got

enlightened. I just got a wonderful sense of who is, and how

her purpose is to bless the earth.

Love

> > > > > > > > > >> Whose business is it if I use technology to

> enhance

> > > my

> > > > > > face?

> > > > > > > > Still

> > > > > > > > > >> mine.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Definitely your business, . I still ponder

> > this,

> > > > > though.

> > > > > > > > > > You use the word " enhance. " That implies that

that

> > you

> > > > > feel

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > having fewer wrinkles is better, no? I am

guessing

> > it

> > > > > > wouldn't

> > > > > > > > FEEL

> > > > > > > > > > any better. Like if you were lying in the dark,

> > would

> > > > your

> > > > > > > face

> > > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > > any better without wrinkles? So how is it

better?

> It

> > > > LOOKS

> > > > > > > better,

> > > > > > > > > > right? To other people?

> > > > > > > > > No.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And you know that.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is saying, is that there is action

> without

> > > > > motives.

> > > > > > > > > Action without thought.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sometimes we forget that. We can even go as far as

> to

> > > > > > believing

> > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > there would be NO action WITHOUT motives.

> > > > > > > > > When actually it is the other way around: there is

> no

> > > > action

> > > > > > > WITH

> > > > > > > > > motives. Motives... don't do action. They don't do

> > > > anything.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They are just thoughts. Come to pass. Don't MAKE

> > > anything

> > > > > > happen.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Don't TRY to go there. If you really want to

ponder

> > > about

> > > > > it,

> > > > > > > ask

> > > > > > > > > yourself if you can find ANYTHING you have ever

done

> > > > without

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > motive.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Then you may have a place to start from.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If you were stranded on a desert island for the

> rest

> > > of

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > life,

> > > > > > > > > > with only you and a plastic surgeon, would you

> have

> > > the

> > > > > > > surgery?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > None of my business, but I'm asking anyhow.

> > > > > > > > > Yes, but you are asking the wrong person.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And it even is the " wrong " question!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > When I read about wanting to get surgery

> > because

> > > > she

> > > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > > 100

> > > > > > > > > > pounds and had lots of excess skin hanging from

> her

> > > > neck,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > imagine that would FEEL uncomfortable, swinging

> > around

> > > > > when

> > > > > > > she

> > > > > > > > moved.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I see your point in the ordering in a restaurant

> > > story,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > has nothing to do with how you appear to other

> > people.

> > > I

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > what I

> > > > > > > > > > am getting at is, is there a reason that has

> nothing

> > > to

> > > > do

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > how

> > > > > > > > > > you appear to others, that you would have

cosmetic

> > > > > surgery?

> > > > > > If

> > > > > > > > not,

> > > > > > > > > > why not just say that you want to look better to

> > other

> > > > > > people?

> > > > > > > > More

> > > > > > > > > > refreshed, less tired, younger, whatever?

> > > > > > > > > Karin, if you are really interested in this:

> > > > > > > > > What do you see when you look in the mirror?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Who are you around ugly people?

> > > > > > > > > - How do you feel?

> > > > > > > > > - What do you think of them?

> > > > > > > > > - What advice do you have for them?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I'm imagining I would find it refreshing if

> > > > > said, " I'd

> > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > reach more people with The Work, and having

> surgery

> > > > would

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > look better on TV and at workshops, and/or I

like

> > > > feeling

> > > > > > > pretty

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > other people, so I decided to do it. "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Personally I find this subject interesting, and

> > > perhaps

> > > > I

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > never

> > > > > > > > > > be enlightened enough to not find it so.

> > > > > > > > > Well, keep on running, then!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Take care.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Love,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > ___________________________________________________________

> > > > > > > > > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC:

> > > > > > > > http://messenger.yahoo.de

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