Re: Heart, DMSO, Cayenne, Hawthorne and Aluminum Rods

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Yes, Dr. Batmanghelidg's book convinced me to try the " water cure " ...

that and the forum around his teachings from out of his Iranian prison

experiences with just water to cure about 3000. I very gingerly

approached my congestive heart failure with MORE water but yes, it did

help ... along with a lot of other things. Joyce

>

> Read Dr. Batman's book, 'Your Body's Many Cries for Water.'

> It talks about salt and water balance. You could take some salt daily

> without guilt.

> Jp

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>

>

> I had

> awful heart problems which finally turned out to be mostly low

sodium. I was

> on the edge of having no salt in my body because I was trying to go low

> sodium. The MMS runs sent me over the edge. I can assure one and all

that

> THAT mistake has not been made again. So maybe all it was this time

was a

> lack of enough carbohydrates? Gotta study this one some more.

>

> Daddybob

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[Guest guest]

>Do you have a site that I can research it? Ed<

Sorry, no, this is something very new that was discovered by some fellows

who are working on " Joe Cells " . I was told about it in private several

months ago, but the fellow who told me about it went public with about 2

weeks ago. He said that by using it for the rotator cuff injury that he was

trying it for, while it didn't do a lot for that injury, it did a lot for

his testosterone production. That really perked my ears so I ran right out

and made one. Actually I made 3, including the short nes I made that are one

fourth and one eighth of the original measurement. As I said earlier, any

results from them are just too early to tell. DB

[Guest guest]

>Read Dr. Batman's book, 'Your Body's Many Cries for Water.'

It talks about salt and water balance. You could take some salt daily

without guilt.<

- yes, read that many years ago and constantly try to keep my water up

and now have found that a Stirwand is very beneficial for that. The salt

deficiency happened last year because of something I read and decided to

try. It turned out to be a very bad move.

Daddybob

[Guest guest]

>What are " JOE CELLS " ? Please give me more info. Ed.<

This goes way off topic for this group and hardly has any applicability to

healing, except that some people who have built Joe Cells report that they

mysteriously seem to be healed of various ailments when they get a Joe cell

to working- which is a feat unto itself. A Joe Cell is an alternative energy

device- an " etheric " device- which was first built by a fellow in Australia

who will only allow himself to be known publicly as Joe. The whole thing is

a really wild tale. The devices are notoriously tricky to build and to get

to work, then they are wildly uncontrollable. You can google it to learn

more and there are a couple of yahoo groups devoted to it. Daddybob

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4:40 PM

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Greetings and thanks to all the good advice. I've been hearing about

hawthorne and juniper and magnesium all mentioned here in group for

suggestions. I haven't added any singles of mag but just as included

in multi's etc. This month tho am trying a couple new " packs " just

for heart health and other from Dr. Whitaker's site and from Wellness

Resources and I know mag is included, hopefully adequate enough.

Then, being an avid Do It Yourselfer, (both from necessity and

curiosity on better ways to do things and farmer/etc. most of earlier

life), I have decided I have to try to ID and find my own Hawthorne

and Juniper trees to make extracts from so went on Google Images to

try to find adequate ID photos to set out in search of locally ... and

am somewhat clearer but ... as with the junipers, I had almost decided

almost anything " pine tree " looking seemed to be labeled if it had

berries of some sort ... then noticed that " hemlock " also appears that

way ... which made me wonder HOW to tell the difference, as from

reputation alone, I do not care to accidentally get the hemlock!!

We just had my husband's primary medication need hit the " donut hole "

of Medicares plan D, so we are looking at $400/mo. for it OR finding

samples, or other alternatives which we're usually just barely above

income levels so we end up much worse than pure poverty as far as some

" help " goes in those gaps.

So, the vitamins, minerals, supplements which now came to $200 this

month, (one tho is 6 mos. supply and other is 2 mo. supply) mean to me

I better get these " extras " to try such as the Hawthorne and Juniper

where I can in the neighborhood and my kitchen!!

And to find time and energy for just being out in the cool parts of

the day, before or after gnats, mosquitos etc. as this year my

homemade repellents arent completely doing the trick and seems like

when new gnat bites (or whatever) are added, it makes the itch of the

old flare-up probably from compromised immune sys. I'm using clay

(inside & out) as well as aloe vera gel, Hydrogen Peroxide, vinegar,

etc. to counteract the itch. The clay mixed with some of those is

effective for several hours to quell the itch and counteract swelling.

So am having a WONDERFUL time meeting the challenges!!!

I do worry about the challenges tho to our health freedoms so we can

continue to use tried and true " remedies " instead of poisonous and

faked up prescription drugs, or isolated 1 ingredient follies instead

of wholistic answers. IF I were a young, healthy, and RICH attorney

working for either a tribal government or protected non-profit I would

be going for class-actions vs. the criminal enterprises, conspiracies,

which have, and are, controlled access to knowledge and health care

for the poor or those who want the FACTS, and constitutional

challenges to free speech about health, (or anything else)!!

If any have suggestions as to tried and true ID of either Hawthorne or

Juniper, I'm sure I can probably find them here in Creighton, Nebraska.

Speaking of finding in Creighton, Nebraska: A week ago I found what

I've now identified as a Golden Tortoise beetle via the internet out

amongst the morning glories by my front doorstep, first listed in THIS

part of the country on one govt. website .. it looked for all the

world like a gold earring post, but which moved. I took it in to

show it to my grandchildren and it flew away in house when we'de

stared at it for several seconds .. have not found it since. HOWEVER,

it has sure piqued our curiosity and have NOT found any " adequate "

answers as to HOW certain tiny beetles apparently metabolize certain

vine plants, (like morning glory, sweet potato, etc. so that they

totally appear like GOLD!! Some process HAS to be at work converting

something in those vines to minute atoms of GOLD which gathers in the

shells of those particular beetles as it did not EVEN appear as

" fakey " as poor gold jewelry, gold-paint, or fools gold. There HAS to

be some non-researched conversion/metabolism bio-tech answer as to how

the little goldbugs make gold!!!

Perhaps with the help of DMSO to transdermal whatever, we really could

ingest the ingredients and have a GoldFinger!!

Thanks again for the help. Yes, I do use the cayenne pepper extract

(home made) liberally now. Hopefully the intersect of old age and

infirmities will start a level off and then plunge on the chart with

renewed health and wellness program regimen. Joyce

> > >

> > > >Read Dr. Batman's book, 'Your Body's Many Cries for Water.'

> > > It talks about salt and water balance. You could take some salt

> > daily

> > > without guilt.<

> > >

> > > - yes, read that many years ago and constantly try to keep my

> > water up

> > > and now have found that a Stirwand is very beneficial for that.

> > The salt

> > > deficiency happened last year because of something I read and

> > decided to

> > > try. It turned out to be a very bad move.

> > > Daddybob

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>With congestive heart failure (cardiomyopathy), Co-Enzyme Q10 at large

doses

is a must, and also extra magnesium. Magnesium is also indicated strongly

with angina type pain. Cayenne alone will not rebuild the heart muscle as

that fellow that wrote the book LEFT FOR DEAD (?) found out.

Jp<

Yes, you are very right, and even I know it and forget it. For that it bears

repeating as I did above.

I was in a hurry and also am a bit weary of repeating my own problems.

On the single worst day of my heart problems last year, it was CoQ10 that

kept me conscious, literally. I was nearly fainting about every 2-3 minutes

until I took it. My heart was threatening to stop. I drove myself to the

local HFS and had to drive slow and stay super alert for a place to veer off

the road if I felt too faint to drive. Call me crazy, but I was NOT calling

an ambulance because I knew that even if they did figure out what was wrong

with me it would be too late. Also, no one else was at home to drive me.

Cayenne was not doing the trick. At that time although CoQ10 helped

enormously, the real problem was a lack of salt.

And yes, magnesium is very good for angina and particularly magnesium

taurate.

Yesterday when I replied the thing that was freshest in my mind was my

experience Wednesday which I did not take time to tell...

Because I've been taking Brewer's Yeast and Diamond V XPC Yeast, I've had

WAY more energy. I've had to use every bit of it to survive in this economy.

I have been outside sweating profusely and have had one heck of a challenge

keeping nutrients in me. Every time I turn around my heart is low on

something and starts to flutter. Earlier this week, it was potassium that I

needed. Intense eating of raisins and dates made me flutter free for two

days. Now it's fluttering again so something else is missing. It may be

CoQ10 and I'll take some just as soon as I stop typing.

Anyway back to Wednesday: During a period of extreme heat, humidity and

exertion I got a pretty bad case of angina. I had raisins and dates with me

and they helped but not enough. After driving down the road for a while I

remembered I had some Cayenne with me. I stopped and took a teaspoon of it

with water and the angina disappeared in about 2 minutes and hasn't returned

since. So naturally I was on a cayenne kick.

OK, outta here to take that CoQ10.

Oh and BTW, I finally, last night, went on once a month standing order for

" Cardio C " (the Rath-ing formula) from the Vitamin C Foundation.

Daddybob

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6:47 AM

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Hi, Yes, I have been taking 300 mg. daily of the COQ10 but will soon

be switching to the 100 mg. Superb Co\Q10 included in the Byron

's Wellness Resources " LeptiCardio Pack which also has

Leptinal, Daily Super E, PoliBlue(extracts policosanol &

blueberry)Pantethine and Muscle Mag which he says is " the most

important mineral to relax the circulatory system and smooth out the

nerve signals to the heart. Helps to quiet a feeling of tension,

agitation or irritation -- all factores that are stressful to teh heart. "

The other new product is TriVeratol Plus of Dr. Whitaker which is a

combo of QMatrix aloe extracts, tumeric's extracts, and resveratrol

extracts from red wine and grapes or some such which he states, " All

in all, 100 mg of Res Vinol-25 (exactly the amount in new Triveratrol

Plus) gives you the same amount of healthy resveratrol as 170 glasses

of red wine! " and the aloe blend, " packs a big youth-boosting punch.

With over 200 nourishing compounds, aloe promotes health throughout

your body when you take it as a supplement—from your digestion and

immune system to your joints, urinary tract, and even blood sugar

levels. " , and as to the tumeric, " turmeric, which is an excellent

source of curcumin, another one of nature's hardest-hitting

antioxidants. On top of being a premier free-radical fighter, curcumin

excels at promoting a normal inflammatory response. Every cell in your

body responds to the curcumin in turmeric. However, research is now

focusing on how it specifically affects brain function. Preliminary

evidence suggests that curcumin helps reduce inflammation and

oxidative stress in your brain. The 200 mg daily dose you get in new

Triveratrol Plus may hold the key to long-term mental clarity and

healthy brain function. "

Now, I've got to renew my DHEA, my Tri-Est hormones, 1000 mg. of

Carlson Norwegian Cod Liver Oil & couple miscellaneous.

(Please excuse my faulty grammar and citations here .. I'm going for

speed and ease of putting this together accurately.

I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and infos here and

wish each best wishes with their quest for better health. Thanks

again, Joyce

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> Joyce - are you also taking Co-EnzymeQ10?

>

> Jane

>

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Yes, I am now switching from 300 mg. day with 1 formula to a more

comprehensive packet but with 100 mg. made up differently with other

supplemental stuff so hopefully more efficient and effective. I

posted that in another answer yesterday I believe re the 2 new

supplement regimens with Triveratrol Plus,

Dr. Whitakers and LeptiCardio pack or some such from Wellness

Resources. It IS so expensive and the Medicare Plan D won't allow us

to " prevent " use of prescription drugs!

Regarding the asthma inhaler etc. Both my husband & I had diagnoses of

COPD and had started using them when I read about Lugol's solution

(Iodine) and the regimens to use it ... It has helped so many

" conditions " of ours along with the DMSO.

Yes, I knew that plants do have minute amounts of gold which is why

the " Goldbugs " metabolism is so intriguing to me. Like, living

goldmines. It seems odd no one is interested in " exploiting " them,

raising them, etc. to " harvest " gold, sort of like the silk-worms with

their STRONG threads, and spider webs now being used for all sort of

basis even for armors I understand. And read sometime ago about

fireflies being genetically implanted or whatever with the DNA thing

into some sort of crop (tobacco?) which then glowed.

These things are fascinating even tho the ETHICS, (or lack thereof),

and the absurd and ridiculous recklessness of such genetic tinkering

are very worrisome and I fear undermining nutrition as we know it with

genetically modified foods.

The one that REALLY has me concerned is the implantation of human DNA

into sheep, ( & God knows how else they're crossing " boundaries " where

angels would fear to tread; as in " fools rush in where angels fear to

tread " , not in the sinner/saint sense but common sense use of " human

intelligence?? " ) When are we going to be " factory-farming " partial

humans?? And ... is the " factory-farming " as cruelly practiced today

not totally stupid and inhumane?? How long can WE survive by

undermining the quality of life of other sentient beings by penning

them up where their lifespan is totally compromised so they HAVE to be

" sold for market " long before range-animals ever would, AFTER

absorbing scads of antibiotics to keep them alive through the horrible

ingestion of urine and stinking manure they live in where the air

quality is so compromised it seeps into the cars as one drives by even

with the air-conditioner on with 'recycle " on so it doesn't let in a

bit ... my heart and soul goes out to the poor trapped beasties.

Especially since, as an old farmer, (not on the farm anymore), but

having had MANY animal " friends " and seen their soul; privileged to

have raised thousands of " babies " , (calves, pigs, chickens, sheep,

dogs, cats, etc., looked into their eyes and understood their fears,

cries, joys and sorrows ... I cringe when I even think of the

inhumanity our society practices NOW ... Yes, I eat meat, but I have

never tolerated cruelty whenever I've been in a position to do

anything about it. I am sure I am not the only frustrated " humane "

human and such frustration, hurt and anger about the conditions

" others " have to live in does NOT do anyone's own " wholistic, integral

humanity " any good ... it harms us!! So our society " numbs up " , dumbs

up " and " shuts up " to tolerate those corporate cruelties and

exploitations of LIFE 101 so we can survive ourselves.

It is backwards from the laws which were first in place. Our nations

first laws to prevent cruelty to women and children FOLLOWED

anti-cruelty laws for animals! Hows that for a turn-around? How about

" Equal Dignity " for all sentient species with cruelty and violence and

inhumane " living conditions " being the PRIMARY emphasis rather than

JUST " economic development " ... can we envision a " better world " ??

Sorry, gang, if my getting carried away has offended anyone, but to me

it is all part of the same " whole " !! Cheers to all in our quests for a

better life. Joyce

Joyce - are you also taking Co-EnzymeQ10?

>

> ~Jane~

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>

> Co-Enzyme Q-10 is very expensive, my husband takes it and the closer

he gets to retirement age, the scarier the thought of the expensive

supplements and meds. He is showing interest in what has happened to

me since getting off prescription drugs some years ago now. I am much

healthier and the prescription drugs were killing me I was having so

many interactions and side effects.

>

> I have learned to make my own tinctures and quit taking

prescriptions drugs except for my asthma inhaler which I use sparingly

and now take Lobelia or Butterbur tincture to help control it. I also

do cleanses a few times a year to keep the toxins at bay. Helps with

breathing difficulties, I add a little DMSO to some of my tinctures

and have one for pain that I add quite a bit to. The older I get the

more I seem to ache. I guess this means I know what it feels like to

grow older. OUCH!

>

> Joyce, did you know that most vegetation has gold in it because it

grows from the earth and gold of course is in our earth. That is why

juicing is so beneficial, lots of live phyto nutrients. Not to

mention gold that strengthens our immune systems and other beneficial

minerals.

>

> Blessings, Micki

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