Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Share Posted May 16, 2002 My son is 4.2 years and has been diagnosed as apraxic. He whines and cries at everything. I don't know if it is just is age or not. His SLP says that apraxic kids get easily frustrated because they can't organize their thoughts into words as easily as you and I do. I need help and advice on this too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Share Posted May 16, 2002 My apraxic son just turned 4 and still throws awful tantrums too. I believe the frustration issue is part of it, however sometimes he throws them for no apparent reason. This is one of the reasons why some therapists thinks he may have autism. I don't know but the tantrums are our biggest problem right now--even over the speech issues. I am sorry I cannot help--I am looking for advice as well! [ ] Temper Tantrums > My 4.10 year old son throws temper tantrums daily. Real doozies > sometimes. We are really working on this with him. He says that it is > his body's fault, and he doesn't know why he does it. He suggested > that maybe he could hit himself and it might make him stop. I told him > that I didn't want him to hurt himself. Does anyone else's child have > problems with temper tantrums? Please help! We are having a really > hard time with this. It is not that we need help with how to deal with > the temper tantrums, we just want to know if this may have something to > do with him being apraxic, or being on Pro EFA. Please let me know. > > Thanks so much. > > > mother to 4.10 severe apraxia and Kaylee 2.7 possible apraxia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Share Posted May 16, 2002 My 5 1/2 year old twins daughters throw tantrums. The one that is severely apraxic use to throw them regularly, several times a week when she was tired. Now, both girls are only throwing them rarely. It was very hard last year when they were 4. They needed a nap, but I couldn't get them to sleep. I think the combination of being tired and not being able to communicate just makes it a doozy. At home it's easy to deal with. I just put them in their room, and the either calm down or go to sleep. I've had a problem in public. Last year, I spent a half hour straddling my daughter in front of a restaraunt while she kicked and screamed. She wanted a soda, and I said no. After 1/2 hour, she finally stopped kicking enough for me to move her to our car. She still screamed another 1/2 hour. Finally, we made it home. Thank God, my other two kids were angels during all of this. My daughter also has not had a tantrum like that in public again. I will tell you one thing. I thought she was going to have a tantrum like this when we went to see a children's play. She wanted a ring pop that they were selling. We waited in line, but when it was her turn they were out of the ring pops. She started a mini-tantrum. She cried and cried. This time, I just told her either we go home, or you stop crying and go to your seat. She stopped crying and went to her seat. She was laughing 5 minutes later. This was a major milestone to me. Good luck! Suzi > My apraxic son just turned 4 and still throws awful tantrums too. I believe > the frustration issue is part of it, however sometimes he throws them for no > apparent reason. This is one of the reasons why some therapists thinks he > may have autism. I don't know but the tantrums are our biggest problem > right now--even over the speech issues. I am sorry I cannot help-- I am > looking for advice as well! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Share Posted May 17, 2002 Yes,my child is the master of temper tantrums.I don't know if this is because of his apraxia or his temperment.He is very emotional and HIGH STRUNG. The littlest thing will set him off.For example yesterday he went upstairs to get ready for school and we usually put his clothes out the night before but things came up and we didn't.I don't know if that was the reason or the fact that his favorite two pairs of shorts were in the wash because he said that he wouldn't wear anything in his drawer because they didn't match,which they all did.He screamed for twenty minutes and we almost missed the bus.I try to keep him on the schedule and routine even on breaks from school which seems to help.I also tell him what is planned for the day.For example if it is a school day like today I tell him he has music today.This also seems to work better.I will tell you that if he wakes up in what I call " The Mood " where everything is a problem then everything is wrong.That seems to work for me,I don't know your child but maybe try this.I will tell you this because you can relate.I was fixing dinner last night and he wanted green beans so I showed him the bag and said, " Are these OK with the shape since that sometimes is a problem " . He said they were OK. No one can laugh at something like this but us since we know. Good Luck.Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Hi Olivia, a month ago I added TD-ALA (3/11 schedule) to our chelators and I did notice that my otherwise mild-mannered son started getting more emotional and tantruming (I'd say being crankier) a bit more than usual, especially around bedtime. This usually happens on the second day of chelation. I saw more yeast flare-ups and die-offs with ALA, and Nystatin and other anti-fungals keep them at bay. TD-DMSA may have a similar effect, even though these are TDs. Someone using TD-DMSA may jump in. Nonetheless, even if we assume that these tantrums have biomedical reasons, and I'm sure many here, including myself, will tell you to up your probiotics and increase your anti-yeast/fungal/bacteria/parasite protocols, it's important not to let the outbursts or meltdowns become habitual, after the biomedical reasons are gone. So, assessing their function, asking yourself WHY tehy oiccur, under which conditions, and following what incidence, you may have a better grip of them. If you are POSITIVE that she's tantruming to get your attention or get something from you, it is esential, as you've probably already read, to withhold attention, positive or negative--either one would be reinforcing, until she calms down. Then you can ask her what she wants and teach her to express herself more appropriately, and then reinforce the appropriate demand immediately. But if she's tantruming because she wants to " not do " something (escape), then it is important to keep the demand on in a calm way, so she can understand that tantruming is not going to get her out of it. Instead perhaps just sayin NO and shaking her head will get her out of it and that's a more appropriate way to reject something. With the help of the above I am able to say that we don't have a temper tantrum problem, thank God. We just have occasional little outbursts which are age-appropriate and even welcomed--although we make sure taht we don't let him know that of course (-: Best, Beti > > How have you all approached temper tantrums in your children? Having > read all the child rearing books there are to read (including Alfie > Kohn's Punished by Rewards), I'm wondering if its more than just a case > of inconsistent parenting. Could it be yeast/constipation/chelation > related? Our daughter's 5 and we're on round two of td-dmsa. Tantrums > occur maybe once every couple of days, and it's a Dr. J/Mr. Hyde kind > of thing, once it's over she snaps out of it and is her happy self > again. Any thoughts? Thanks a lot, Olivia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 What dose and dosing schedule are you using? What ar you supplementing with? How's her diet? I presume she has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings? S S How have you all approached temper tantrums in your children? Having read all the child rearing books there are to read (including Alfie Kohn's Punished by Rewards), I'm wondering if its more than just a case of inconsistent parenting. Could it be yeast/constipation/chelation related? Our daughter's 5 and we're on round two of td-dmsa. Tantrums occur maybe once every couple of days, and it's a Dr. J/Mr. Hyde kind of thing, once it's over she snaps out of it and is her happy self again. Any thoughts? Thanks a lot, Olivia ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Beti, I really appreciate your response. Very helpful. Can you recommend a book on verbal behavior? I read one but it wasn't all that detailed. THanks again, Olivia > > > > How have you all approached temper tantrums in your children? Having > > read all the child rearing books there are to read (including Alfie > > Kohn's Punished by Rewards), I'm wondering if its more than just a > case > > of inconsistent parenting. Could it be yeast/constipation/chelation > > related? Our daughter's 5 and we're on round two of td-dmsa. > Tantrums > > occur maybe once every couple of days, and it's a Dr. J/Mr. Hyde kind > > of thing, once it's over she snaps out of it and is her happy self > > again. Any thoughts? Thanks a lot, Olivia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 Please read the book ³Man in the Trap² by Elsworth F. Baker, M.D. Chapter VI on Babies, page 310. Christos Greece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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