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I would agree that there is a connection. Again, I did not mean to make out

any parent as a bad parent. We all do what we have to. I was only

commending Suzi for staying strong, which is probably more than I would have

done, given the same situation. There is no telling how I would react if

any one of my 4 children suddenly started a screaming tantrum as described

while we were out in public. Fortunately, none of them have ever done that.

Their tantrums are limited to home, for the most part and I am able to

control them by speaking calmly. The children do not get physical with me.

My apologies for even posting at all...I am new to apraxia and this whole

world. I am still going through all the range of emotions, including the

grieving. I certainly didn't mean to come across as knowing it all and I

certainly didn't want to start a controversial conversation.

I'll just go back to lurking now.

Marie

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For a long time has been thought that deficient social interaction in

children who can't speak was de consequence of their lack of communication.

sometimes it is like that. But there are many children whose deficient

social interaction is de cause, at least one of their poor communication.

Tantrums may be cause they don't know how to order their minds to express

their disconfort for something, a situation they don't understand, a quick

feeling they don't know how to say aloud....another thinking....If a child

has verbal apraxia, he is not able to plan his verbal behavior (put in order

words and phonemes). What happends if in some situations he is not able to

plan his behavior as a response to the environment? I always thought about

that. May be there is a linkeage.

na

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Hi Anne-,

I am the one whose son does the major screaming trick and I just

wanted to assure you that I wasn't trying to suggest I was upset by

your comments. I only posted for two reasons . Firstly because I knew

there would be parents out there who would be saying to themselves

that they apply the same approach and it dosen't work ..and when that

happens to you , you feel like such a failure . I just wanted to

speak to my own experience - that sometimes unfortunately it dosen't

work !

And you didn't post anything nasty of unpleasant you were just saying

what most of us have said before when seeing a bad display in a store-

just because I now know different dosen't mean that I used to stand

behind some tantruming child and think " poor thing - I wonder if he

has profound communication difficulties that impair his ability to

rationalise this situation appropriately !! " LOL ..as if !!!!

I think your post reflected what many of us think and many times we

WILL BE RIGHT !! There are bratty kids out there with pathetic

parents who make life even harder for the rest of us !!

Our kids look the same as everyone else and that is both a blessing

and a curse.So now i just never make assumptions based on what I see

because I just don't know.That's all I was trying to say. And

standing behind someone and forming a view on what they are doing is

entirely everyones perogative - I was speaking because of the number

of people who have to tut or comment or get in your face !!

I carry " business cards " with a brief description of Charlies

condition which I hand to anyone attempting to comment or interfere.

My oldest son has his own which he wrote and can humiliate the most

hard assed smart arse in ten seconds!!! " please show your kindness

and do not stare - he is just a boy trying to fight his illness " . I

have developed a thick skin now . It is a sign I think of how I

accept Charlie that other people's views don't matter - but oh for

months and months it did !

I am always polite(almost !!) . I keep it brief and I try to accept

that some people enjoy the prospect of putting a " bad mum " in her

place ( a lot of women of a certain age !!!) and I try to forget it

as soon as possible .

If all else fails " he has autism but therapy is helping whereas you

will be stupid and rude forever " works !

Funnily enough my six foot , 14 stone, rugby playing husband seldomn

gets any comments when he takes Charlie out - now I wonder why that

is !!!! Any ideas

Best regards - and belated welcome to the board

Regards

Deborah Dore

> I would agree that there is a connection. Again, I did not mean to

make out

> any parent as a bad parent. We all do what we have to. I was only

> commending Suzi for staying strong, which is probably more than I

would have

> done, given the same situation. There is no telling how I would

react if

> any one of my 4 children suddenly started a screaming tantrum as

described

> while we were out in public. Fortunately, none of them have ever

done that.

> Their tantrums are limited to home, for the most part and I am able

to

> control them by speaking calmly. The children do not get physical

with me.

>

> My apologies for even posting at all...I am new to apraxia and this

whole

> world. I am still going through all the range of emotions,

including the

> grieving. I certainly didn't mean to come across as knowing it all

and I

> certainly didn't want to start a controversial conversation.

>

> I'll just go back to lurking now.

>

> Marie

> [ ] Re: Temper Tantrums plus intro

>

>

> For a long time has been thought that deficient social

interaction in

> children who can't speak was de consequence of their lack of

communication.

> sometimes it is like that. But there are many children whose

deficient

> social interaction is de cause, at least one of their poor

communication.

> Tantrums may be cause they don't know how to order their minds to

express

> their disconfort for something, a situation they don't understand,

a quick

> feeling they don't know how to say aloud....another thinking....If

a child

> has verbal apraxia, he is not able to plan his verbal behavior (put

in order

> words and phonemes). What happends if in some situations he is not

able to

> plan his behavior as a response to the environment? I always

thought about

> that. May be there is a linkeage.

> na

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