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My son had pretty bad asthma. Just wondering is he on a preventive like

cromolyn sodium (intal) ? The severity of attacks and frequency were almost

completely eliminated by cromolyn.... This was the best medicine for him...

Also I think food allergies play a Major part.... Elimination of all dairy

and gluten has helped tremendously... Vitamins like C have an antihistamine

type of quality to them... We supplemented with Vit A in CLO along with E

(tocteronols ) . Plus many other things ... We are glad to say he has not

had any episodes of asthma..This was a very serious problem. We were

literally in and out of the ER until we got him straightened out... My son

also has had severe eczema as well. Diet and fatty acids I think have helped

big time.... Have not had to add in albuterol so I have no idea whether it

does interfere. Hopefully you can find some answers to this, but so far this

is what has helped my son. Good luck...

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Hi Diane,

We have been chelating our son for 5 months now, he does not

have asthma, but when be began chelation 3 days on 4 day off, we

went through the head drainage and what seemed like a cold for 7 to 8

weeks into chelation , we also checked the white blood cell count,

and they were fine. Like magic after about 8 to 9 weeks of chelation

the problem was gone. We really feel it was form of detox he had to

go through. He has had a few throat infections that led to

antibiotics but all it all the progress has been wonderful and well

worth the difficulties in the beginning, hope this helps alittle, Leah

> Andy,

>

> We have been doing DMSA chelation since November with our son with

the help of a (DAN doctor).

> We try to do 3 days on and 14 days off. Our problems has been that

our son has asthma as well as the allergies, and everytime we chelate

we find him getting a cold or drainage that gives him a head cold/

etc.

> He is given 5 mg of albuterol in a saline solution with a machine

for the asthma. Does this interfer with the mercury chelation. We

tested his white blood cell count (?) and the test came out ok.

> We also find he has sometimes severe eczema and the pediatrician

prescribed Triamicinolone Acetonide Ointment (.1%) for it. We have

to use it for a while and then go off of it.

> Also we occasionally use Clariton . Are any of these things

hindering us or interfering with chelating Mercury?

>

> Any suggestions for the asthma?

> We do the recommended supplimentation for chelation.

>

> Is there anything else that we should be addressing. We are

hoping to add the ALA the next time we go to the DAN doctor . Does

this suppliment make things worse.

> My husband is wearing thin on this patience with this form of

intervention ....... so we need some encouragement here..

> We have an appointment with Dr. Holmes in October.

>

> rogerf@i...

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Thanks a bunch !! We have eliminated the things you mentioned in his diet.

But will mention the other things to our DAN doctor. Diane

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> Hi

> My son had pretty bad asthma. Just wondering is he on a preventive

like

> cromolyn sodium (intal) ? The severity of attacks and frequency were

almost

> completely eliminated by cromolyn.... This was the best medicine for

him...

> Also I think food allergies play a Major part.... Elimination of all dairy

> and gluten has helped tremendously... Vitamins like C have an

antihistamine

> type of quality to them... We supplemented with Vit A in CLO along with E

> (tocteronols ) . Plus many other things ... We are glad to say he has

not

> had any episodes of asthma..This was a very serious problem. We were

> literally in and out of the ER until we got him straightened out... My

son

> also has had severe eczema as well. Diet and fatty acids I think have

helped

> big time.... Have not had to add in albuterol so I have no idea whether it

> does interfere. Hopefully you can find some answers to this, but so far

this

> is what has helped my son. Good luck...

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

>

>

>

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> > Andy,

> >

> > We have been doing DMSA chelation since November with our son with

> the help of a (DAN doctor).

> > We try to do 3 days on and 14 days off. Our problems has been

that

> our son has asthma as well as the allergies, and everytime we

chelate

> we find him getting a cold or drainage that gives him a head cold/

> etc.

> > He is given 5 mg of albuterol in a saline solution with a machine

> for the asthma. Does this interfer with the mercury chelation.

No.

> We

> tested his white blood cell count (?) and the test came out ok.

> > We also find he has sometimes severe eczema and the pediatrician

> prescribed Triamicinolone Acetonide Ointment (.1%) for it. We

have

> to use it for a while and then go off of it.

> > Also we occasionally use Clariton . Are any of these things

> hindering us or interfering with chelating Mercury?

No.

> > Any suggestions for the asthma?

1. Check his plasma cysteine level or simply have a trial exclusion

of sulfur foods.

2. Lots of magnesium, C, etc.

3. The Rx drug accolate, taken religiously.

4. Acupressure as needed on the appropriate allergy points.

> > We do the recommended supplimentation for chelation.

> >

> > Is there anything else that we should be addressing. We are

> hoping to add the ALA the next time we go to the DAN doctor . Does

> this suppliment make things worse.

> > My husband is wearing thin on this patience with this form of

> intervention ....... so we need some encouragement here..

> > We have an appointment with Dr. Holmes in October.

> >

> > rogerf@i...

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been re

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> > Andy,

> >

> > We have been doing DMSA chelation since November with our son with

> the help of a (DAN doctor).

> > We try to do 3 days on and 14 days off.

Every 4 or every 8 hours? If every 8, try every 4.

Andy

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Have you tried a chiropractor for the asthma?

I take both my children to the chiro - it is helping tremendously with the

allergies, ear infections, etc. My older son has reactive airway - which is

a form of asthma. This winter, we did not have to put him on the inhalent

for the first time.

It is worthwhile looking into.

CHeryl

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valadez4@... writes:

<< > We have been doing DMSA chelation since November with our son with

the help of a (DAN doctor).

> We try to do 3 days on and 14 days off. Our problems has been that

our son has asthma as well as the allergies, and everytime we chelate

we find him getting a cold or drainage that gives him a head cold/

etc.

> He is given 5 mg of albuterol in a saline solution with a machine

for the asthma. Does this interfer with the mercury chelation. We

tested his white blood cell count (?) and the test came out ok.

> We also find he has sometimes severe eczema and the pediatrician

prescribed Triamicinolone Acetonide Ointment (.1%) for it. We have

to use it for a while and then go off of it.

> Also we occasionally use Clariton . Are any of these things

hindering us or interfering with chelating Mercury?

>

> Any suggestions for the asthma?

> We do the recommended supplimentation for chelation.

>

> Is there anything else that we should be addressing. We are

hoping to add the ALA the next time we go to the DAN doctor . Does

this suppliment make things worse.

> My husband is wearing thin on this patience with this form of

intervention ....... so we need some encouragement here..

> We have an appointment with Dr. Holmes in October.

> >>

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Hi -wow what a tough decision you are faced with especially with that heat-we just moved from Dallas and I am not sure Memphis will be much better temperature wise -- I don't envy you one bit. The heat alone would make me rethink the banding but I am not sure......... if there was more correction to be captured then you might want to go for it. I have read lots of post where people have started late and have seen amazing results and others minimal. . Do you have recent pictures and before pictures in the files that we could take a look at and give you our opinion. Either way follow your heart you sound like a great mommy and you will know what is best when the time comes. Please let us know what you decide and if you have pictures that would be great.

beck mommy to banded 3.26.01

Memphis, TN

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Our situation was very similar to yours. Hanna was banded at 6 months of age, and wore her (DOC)band for 5 months. She did not graduate because her head was round, but because she had outgrown her band. She achieved about 85%(?) correction, and we are very happy with that, but being 11 months old at graduation, I felt we could do better. I discussed the possibility of a second band with our clinician & neurosurgeon, but both felt that she had improved enough that a second band would not be needed. The key factor for them was the facial asymmetry (which again, has improved, but is not 100%).

The difference between you and I is that you have the option of getting a second band. We didn't. I live in Canada, and things are a little different here. Long story, but we were lucky a band was available to us to begin with.

Point is, if I had the opportunity, I would have gotten the second band. Hanna is now almost 19 months old, and her head still bugs me. Of course no one notices it unless I point it out. She is a very sweet, beautiful little girl.

You face a difficult decision, and I wish you the best.

If you would like to see Hanna's before & after pix, check the FILES section under Hanna.

Kendra in CanadaFor more plagio info, go towww.plagiocephaly.org/support...

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Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 6:38 PM

Subject: Need input

Hi Everyone,I read this board every single day but dont post that often. Some of youmight have remembered a similar post I made a month or so ago, butI really need advise. will be graduating from her DOC band in 2 weeks. Not because herheadis round, but because we have been in the band for 5 1/2 months and thatis the "lifespan" of the band. The CT folks here in Dallas dont feellike sheneeds another because her head has shown significant improvement, shehasTONS of curly hair, and she will be one year old next week.I still feel like her head is pretty flat, but I do agree it looks muchmuch better thanit did 5 months ago. I dont know if its a good decision or not to recasther and keepher in the band over the hot hot DFW summer if there really isnt goingto be much improvement, not to mention the cost.How many of you have had babies re-casted at the one year age? Did youseemuch improvement? Give me some details on how you made your decisionto recast and how long your child had the helmet on before he/she turned1.Any advise would help. I know there have been other post regardingsimilarsitiations, but my main concern is s age and the fact that she hasalready beenin the helmet 5 1/2 months!Thanks (DOC banded 12/28)For more plagio info

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Hi ,

I made a similar post a month or so ago. Our

situation is a little different because my daughter is

only 9.5 months old. She received her first band at

6.5 months and only wore it 10.5 weeks before she out

grew it. We saw lots of improvement and were not

thinking of rebanding. When we saw the neurosurgeon

he said that we could go either way (to reband or

not). His issue was one fuller cheek not her head. He

told us to consider how much of a pain this whole

process has been. We decided to go for it. CT is 10

minutes from my house and insurance covered because of

continuation of treatment. My question to you is, is

there any facial asymmetry? I was told that her head

would continue to round out but that the facial

asymmetry would remain and not improve. I'm glad that

we went we band #2. It's pretty hot and humid here in

North Carolina. That was the big reason that we

almost didn't reband. I'm just going to stay in more

and keep the AC turned way down. Good luck .

B., Charlotte

--- <dcperez@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> I read this board every single day but dont post

> that often. Some of you

>

> might have remembered a similar post I made a month

> or so ago, but

> I really need advise.

>

> will be graduating from her DOC band in 2

> weeks. Not because her

> head

> is round, but because we have been in the band for 5

> 1/2 months and that

>

> is the " lifespan " of the band. The CT folks here in

> Dallas dont feel

> like she

> needs another because her head has shown significant

> improvement, she

> has

> TONS of curly hair, and she will be one year old

> next week.

>

> I still feel like her head is pretty flat, but I do

> agree it looks much

> much better than

> it did 5 months ago. I dont know if its a good

> decision or not to recast

> her and keep

> her in the band over the hot hot DFW summer if

> there really isnt going

> to be much improvement, not to mention the cost.

>

> How many of you have had babies re-casted at the one

> year age? Did you

> see

> much improvement? Give me some details on how you

> made your decision

> to recast and how long your child had the helmet on

> before he/she turned

> 1.

>

> Any advise would help. I know there have been other

> post regarding

> similar

> sitiations, but my main concern is s age and the

> fact that she has

> already been

> in the helmet 5 1/2 months!

>

> Thanks (DOC banded 12/28)

>

>

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Hi ,

has no facial asymmetry, Im going to take some

pictures of her head in teh bathtub tonite and post

her before and now pictures. Maybe you can take a look

and see what you think. I hate to think Im being a

" perfectionist " as my parents/husband/inlaws would all say,

but them again, if my daughter decides to be on the swim team

I dont want her being self conscious because she has a flat

head!!

Ill put a message in when I post her before/now pics.

Thanks for you input!

> > Hi Everyone,

> > I read this board every single day but dont post

> > that often. Some of you

> >

> > might have remembered a similar post I made a month

> > or so ago, but

> > I really need advise.

> >

> > will be graduating from her DOC band in 2

> > weeks. Not because her

> > head

> > is round, but because we have been in the band for 5

> > 1/2 months and that

> >

> > is the " lifespan " of the band. The CT folks here in

> > Dallas dont feel

> > like she

> > needs another because her head has shown significant

> > improvement, she

> > has

> > TONS of curly hair, and she will be one year old

> > next week.

> >

> > I still feel like her head is pretty flat, but I do

> > agree it looks much

> > much better than

> > it did 5 months ago. I dont know if its a good

> > decision or not to recast

> > her and keep

> > her in the band over the hot hot DFW summer if

> > there really isnt going

> > to be much improvement, not to mention the cost.

> >

> > How many of you have had babies re-casted at the one

> > year age? Did you

> > see

> > much improvement? Give me some details on how you

> > made your decision

> > to recast and how long your child had the helmet on

> > before he/she turned

> > 1.

> >

> > Any advise would help. I know there have been other

> > post regarding

> > similar

> > sitiations, but my main concern is s age and the

> > fact that she has

> > already been

> > in the helmet 5 1/2 months!

> >

> > Thanks (DOC banded 12/28)

> >

> >

>

>

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>

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Hi Kendra,

I checked out the pictures - thanks! Its interesting that you

say her head " still bugs you " because everytime I look at s

head I feel the same way. Everyone says Im being a perfectionist,

but I think Ill post her pictures and maybe you guys can look at them

and give me your thoughts. Im going to take some pictures tonite and

try to post them tomorrow night.

Thanks

> :

> Our situation was very similar to yours. Hanna was banded at 6

months of age, and wore her (DOC)band for 5 months. She did not

graduate because her head was round, but because she had outgrown her

band. She achieved about 85%(?) correction, and we are very happy

with that, but being 11 months old at graduation, I felt we could do

better. I discussed the possibility of a second band with our

clinician & neurosurgeon, but both felt that she had improved enough

that a second band would not be needed. The key factor for them was

the facial asymmetry (which again, has improved, but is not 100%).

> The difference between you and I is that you have the option of

getting a second band. We didn't. I live in Canada, and things are a

little different here. Long story, but we were lucky a band was

available to us to begin with.

> Point is, if I had the opportunity, I would have gotten the second

band. Hanna is now almost 19 months old, and her head still bugs me.

Of course no one notices it unless I point it out. She is a very

sweet, beautiful little girl.

> You face a difficult decision, and I wish you the best.

> If you would like to see Hanna's before & after pix, check the FILES

section under Hanna.

> Kendra in Canada

> For more plagio info, go to

> www.plagiocephaly.org/support

> .

> .

> .

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

> plagio

> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 6:38 PM

> Subject: Need input

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

> I read this board every single day but dont post that often. Some

of you

>

> might have remembered a similar post I made a month or so ago, but

> I really need advise.

>

> will be graduating from her DOC band in 2 weeks. Not because

her

> head

> is round, but because we have been in the band for 5 1/2 months

and that

>

> is the " lifespan " of the band. The CT folks here in Dallas dont

feel

> like she

> needs another because her head has shown significant improvement,

she

> has

> TONS of curly hair, and she will be one year old next week.

>

> I still feel like her head is pretty flat, but I do agree it looks

much

> much better than

> it did 5 months ago. I dont know if its a good decision or not to

recast

> her and keep

> her in the band over the hot hot DFW summer if there really isnt

going

> to be much improvement, not to mention the cost.

>

> How many of you have had babies re-casted at the one year age? Did

you

> see

> much improvement? Give me some details on how you made your

decision

> to recast and how long your child had the helmet on before he/she

turned

> 1.

>

> Any advise would help. I know there have been other post regarding

> similar

> sitiations, but my main concern is s age and the fact that she

has

> already been

> in the helmet 5 1/2 months!

>

> Thanks (DOC banded 12/28)

>

>

>

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everytime I look at shead I feel the same way. Everyone says Im being a perfectionist

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You're not being a perfectionist! You are a concerned mother who wants THE BEST for her baby. We didn't ever expect perfection with Hanna, and like I said before, we are happy with the improvement she got, but at 11 months of age and working with a DOC Band, there was a whole year + to see better. My in-laws were against the whole thing to begin with, so of course they were against even asking about a second band. I totally know where you're coming from with the lack of support. Thankfully, my husband just wants what's best for Hanna, and since she was used to having the band on her head already (in fact, it didn't ever bother her for 1 second of the whole 5 months), we thought we would try. Oh well, so we didn't get a second go round. At least another baby the chance at a first round!

Let me know when your pix are up, and I'd be happy to take a look - can never get enough of those sweet little babies! :o)

Kendra in CanadaFor more plagio info, go towww.plagiocephaly.org/support...

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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: Need input

Hi Kendra, I checked out the pictures - thanks! Its interesting that you say her head "still bugs you" because everytime I look at shead I feel the same way. Everyone says Im being a perfectionist, but I think Ill post her pictures and maybe you guys can look at themand give me your thoughts. Im going to take some pictures tonite and try to post them tomorrow night. Thanks > :> Our situation was very similar to yours. Hanna was banded at 6 months of age, and wore her (DOC)band for 5 months. She did not graduate because her head was round, but because she had outgrown her band. She achieved about 85%(?) correction, and we are very happy with that, but being 11 months old at graduation, I felt we could do better. I discussed the possibility of a second band with our clinician & neurosurgeon, but both felt that she had improved enough that a second band would not be needed. The key factor for them was the facial asymmetry (which again, has improved, but is not 100%).> The difference between you and I is that you have the option of getting a second band. We didn't. I live in Canada, and things are a little different here. Long story, but we were lucky a band was available to us to begin with.> Point is, if I had the opportunity, I would have gotten the second band. Hanna is now almost 19 months old, and her head still bugs me. Of course no one notices it unless I point it out. She is a very sweet, beautiful little girl.> You face a difficult decision, and I wish you the best.> If you would like to see Hanna's before & after pix, check the FILES section under Hanna.> Kendra in Canada> For more plagio info, go to> www.plagiocephaly.org/support> .> .> .> ----- Original Message ----- > From: > plagio > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 6:38 PM> Subject: Need input> > > Hi Everyone,> I read this board every single day but dont post that often. Some of you> > might have remembered a similar post I made a month or so ago, but> I really need advise.> > will be graduating from her DOC band in 2 weeks. Not because her> head> is round, but because we have been in the band for 5 1/2 months and that> > is the "lifespan" of the band. The CT folks here in Dallas dont feel> like she> needs another because her head has shown significant improvement, she> has> TONS of curly hair, and she will be one year old next week.> > I still feel like her head is pretty flat, but I do agree it looks much> much better than> it did 5 months ago. I dont know if its a good decision or not to recast> her and keep> her in the band over the hot hot DFW summer if there really isnt going> to be much improvement, not to mention the cost.> > How many of you have had babies re-casted at the one year age? Did you> see> much improvement? Give me some details on how you made your decision> to recast and how long your child had the helmet on before he/she turned> 1.> > Any advise would help. I know there have been other post regarding> similar> sitiations, but my main concern is s age and the fact that she has> already been> in the helmet 5 1/2 months!> > Thanks (DOC banded 12/28)> > >

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, I'll be happy to check out 's picture. Let

me know when you post.

B., Charlotte

--- dcperez@... wrote:

> Hi ,

> has no facial asymmetry, Im going to take some

> pictures of her head in teh bathtub tonite and post

> her before and now pictures. Maybe you can take a

> look

> and see what you think. I hate to think Im being a

> " perfectionist " as my parents/husband/inlaws would

> all say,

> but them again, if my daughter decides to be on the

> swim team

> I dont want her being self conscious because she has

> a flat

> head!!

> Ill put a message in when I post her before/now

> pics.

> Thanks for you input!

>

>

>

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > > I read this board every single day but dont post

> > > that often. Some of you

> > >

> > > might have remembered a similar post I made a

> month

> > > or so ago, but

> > > I really need advise.

> > >

> > > will be graduating from her DOC band in 2

> > > weeks. Not because her

> > > head

> > > is round, but because we have been in the band

> for 5

> > > 1/2 months and that

> > >

> > > is the " lifespan " of the band. The CT folks here

> in

> > > Dallas dont feel

> > > like she

> > > needs another because her head has shown

> significant

> > > improvement, she

> > > has

> > > TONS of curly hair, and she will be one year old

> > > next week.

> > >

> > > I still feel like her head is pretty flat, but I

> do

> > > agree it looks much

> > > much better than

> > > it did 5 months ago. I dont know if its a good

> > > decision or not to recast

> > > her and keep

> > > her in the band over the hot hot DFW summer if

> > > there really isnt going

> > > to be much improvement, not to mention the cost.

> > >

> > > How many of you have had babies re-casted at the

> one

> > > year age? Did you

> > > see

> > > much improvement? Give me some details on how

> you

> > > made your decision

> > > to recast and how long your child had the helmet

> on

> > > before he/she turned

> > > 1.

> > >

> > > Any advise would help. I know there have been

> other

> > > post regarding

> > > similar

> > > sitiations, but my main concern is s age and

> the

> > > fact that she has

> > > already been

> > > in the helmet 5 1/2 months!

> > >

> > > Thanks (DOC banded 12/28)

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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Does/did have facial assymetry? If she did - has it improved? To me I

guess that would be a big factor in deciding whether or not to re-band.

Ultimately you are the one who has to live with the decision so I guess I

would say - follow your instinct.

We have lots of parents here who have decided either for or against

re-banding and hopefully many of them will respond to your post.

Good luck - I know this much be a very tough decision for you and your

family. Let us know what you decide to do.

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

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Hello new friends,

I would like to thank you all for welcoming me to your group. I have a question and would like your input.

I have had a problem with pain that goes from my tailbone across my hip and down my left leg for about a year now. I want to do some visualization to bring health to this area of my body, but I am not sure what to visualize since I really do not know what is causing the pain and my doctors have not been able to diagnose it either. I have difficulty sitting for more than a few minutes and have constant pain.

Would you please give me some ideas of just exactly what I should visualize to bring health to this area of my body?

Thank you so much.

Love and hugs, Cheryl

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> My question is: What can I do to alleviate the bad symptoms of chemo

> while I am taking it. Any particular supplements, etc. I would

> really appreciate advice in this area - especialy anyone who has gone

> through chemo and found supplements or whatever that helped a great

> deal.

>

, I will have to disagree with Arlyn on this one. Mainstream med sez that

antioxidants, fresh fruits and veggies will conflict with chemo. That's

mainstream and makes no sense at all. Ralph Moss has done a lot of writing in

this area ... and you can get

his paper on it for $9,95 at

http://www.cancerdecisions.com/mrstore/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=2 & \

products_id=512 & zenid=6950887a571ad68417892fa55459f251

If it were me, I'd invest that money. There are certain antioxidants that even

help chemo do its job. I wish I'd known that when I was going thru it back in

'99.

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Ideally it would be great to have an oncologist and a good

nutritionist working together with you. If that's not an option, there

are 2 great books that address this and have specific info on which

supplements/herbs work well with and support you while doing

chemo/radiation.

Beating Cancer with Nutrition - Quillan

Herbal Medicine, Healing and Cancer - Yance

Q. has a site, www.nutritioncancer.com - go to this site and

click on the chemo and radiation tab at the left. It will let you

download a chapter (free) from his site. Read through it, see if you

like it. Both books address which supplements are supportive for chemo.

There are lots of books out there, as well as tons of good information

from a number of authors on the internet to help you. There are many,

many testimonials from others who are doing the approach as you are

choosing to, and they've been very successful.

Also, Google " nutrition supplements chemo " - lots of good, solid

information for you here too. You could maybe call Cancer Treatment

Centers of America and ask them for good books, websites, etc. I think

they do a combination of traditional/alternative as well.

If you know in your heart this is the best decision for YOU, stay as

focused on the course as you can, and move forward without fear. The

more testimonies you find of others doing the same as you, the more at

peace you'll be with your decision. Do not let others' fears sway you

no matter what path you decide.

cathy

> My question is: What can I do to alleviate the bad symptoms of chemo

> while I am taking it. Any particular supplements, etc. I would

> really appreciate advice in this area - especialy anyone who has gone

> through chemo and found supplements or whatever that helped a great

> deal.

>

> Thank You,

>

>

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The statement about fruits and vegetables being contrary to Chemotherapy didn't

fit in with the Chief Physician at a major Cancer Center in Miami, FL that

suggested my daughter-in-law with aggressive breast cancer " do everything she

could on her own...such as lots of greens. "

The reason many Oncologists make the demand that people cease anti-oxidant

supplements is not because of actual studies, but the concept that, it must be

so because of the nature of anti-oxidants and how they work.

For people seeking alternative help in defeating cancer to give up fruits and

vegetables flies in the face of the very help they seek.

Joe C.

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In a message dated 3/28/08, arlyn writes:

> But I realized that it was all

> about the belief that she is going to die anyway, might as well let her

> eat what she wants.

I recall sitting with my best friend in a restaurant who had advanced breast

cancer and watching while she drank white russians and ordered extra blue

cheese dressing for her salad. Anything I said about the hormones in the cream

was rejected by her. She passed away.

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In a message dated 3/28/08 5:06:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

arlynsg@... writes:

> Whenever I post a gentle message about there being LOTS

> of other options for them, they get upset with me.

>

I know..it's very wierd.

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On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Turmeric4 wrote:

> Just talked to my doctor and he said I can't get a port. It would go

> right into the Superior Vena Cava (the vein that is closing) and would

> cause problems.

>

> Can I take LDN the same time as chemo?

>

>

>

- Here are a couple of posts from other forums on LDN that may be

helpful.

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LarryGC <larrygc@...> wrote:

<low dose naltrexone >

From: " LarryGC " <larrygc@...>

Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:16:06 -0400

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: fwiw: My Dad's last CT scan! Docs

are still stumped :)

I know I mentioned it a few times in the last year.  The doc

prescribing the LDN said LDN would do fine with the chemo they were

doing on my Dad, and apparently she was right.

 

From my perspective, you can take LDN with anything...  it just may not

work as well as it may if you took it Alone.

 

At 83 1/2, my dad was not going to forego the chemo, but we convinced

him to do the LDN also.

 

Given he was on LDN for 6 months with chemo, and his tumors shrunk in

half, and then 6 more months of JUST LDN, and his tumors are STILL

shrinking more, I'd say he may have done better on JUST LDN... but who

can say that?

 

The oncologists said they NEVER saw these results on just their chemo. 

They were surprised back in Sept, and even more so now, 6 months Off

the chemo.

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From: deealejo@.............

Subject: [LDN_4_cancer] LDN and chemo

Date: November 21, 2007 5:29:18 AM PST

Dr. Bihari said explicitely that chemotherapy treatment can be used

with LDN. Chemotherapy destroys your immune system and LDN will

lessen the damage.....

We who have had chemotherapy and those who have use LDN with

chemotherapy on this board know the benefits that LDN has provided with

the healing and restoring of our immune systems back to normal.

Jerry's wife just finished a grueling session with Chemotherapy and

supported the treatment with LDN. Her recovery is felt due to the

fact that LDN was used with the chemotherapy.

I was told to take LDN with chemotherapy if I elected to take it........

Dee

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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:47:58 EDT, szukipoo@... said:

> In a message dated 3/28/08, arlyn writes:

> I recall sitting with my best friend in a restaurant who had advanced

> breast

> cancer and watching while she drank white russians and ordered extra blue

> cheese dressing for her salad. Anything I said about the hormones in the

> cream

> was rejected by her. She passed away.

It really is an interesting mindset. I see it all the time in the young

survival coalition bulliten board. These young women feeling that there

is nothing left for them treatment-wise so they hit stage 4 and think

they will die. Whenever I post a gentle message about there being LOTS

of other options for them, they get upset with me.

ar

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