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What a great idea! Sorry you got injured though. If you feel like

sharing your laminated instructions, that would be great too!

Regards,

Mara

> I posted this to another non herbal group this morning, and thought

> the

> reminder of letting everyone in the family know where the herbs

> are, and an

> emergency care sheet idea was something we should all have, so I am

> copying

> it here. Many of us are the family herbalist. But what if it is US

> that

> need the emergency help?

>

> I have my healing herb tinctures in a special place. Normally we

> use them

> for minor things-colds, flu, aches, as we have never had an

> emergency. This

> past weekend I had a chance to see them shine in an emergency. I

> tangled

> the first 3 fingers of my left hand in my table saw. (I'm typing

> this one

> handed) I cut one finger half way across the width of the finger,

> through

> the middle of the nail, and sliced through the upper tips/nails of

> the other

> 2. Blood everywhere. I ran into the bathroom and told my husband to

> get

> the DMSO, propolis (raw honey is a good substitute and readily

> available)

> and the cayenne tinc, bandages,scissors and tape. He poured the

> DMSO on,

> which started to slow the bleeding. Then he put the cayenne in a

> cup so I

> could soak my fingers. I started to pass out so he gave me a spoon of

> cayenne, which snapped me right out of it. Which was good because

> it was

> making him sick to look at my hand and he couldn't help me bandage

> it. (he

> s squeamish :-). Soaking the fingers in cayenne helped stop the

> bleeding

> enough to wrap them. He soaked a strip of gauze in cayenne while I

> applied

> some propolis to the fingers, then I wrapped each finger in the

> cayenne

> gauze and taped them. Then I laid down for 3 or 4 hours, and after

> that was

> able to get up and finish my project, though it took longer as I

> could only

> use one hand.

>

> The ER would have done basically the same thing but 1) would have

> charged me

> a lot 2) would have given me a shot and 3) put me on a round of

> antibiotics.

> The natural antibiotics in what I applied were stronger than

> anything they

> could have given me and I had zero worries of infection, plus did

> not upset

> the balance if flora in my gut as theirs would have.

>

> One lesson I learned from this is to make sure all my herbs are

> clearly

> labeled and in a place where everyone in the family knows they are

> at. I am

> the herbalist in our house and my husband knows almost nothing

> about them.

> If I had not been able to tell him where they were and what to get

> me, he

> would have been lost. So now I am going to make up a laminated

> paper with

> herbal instructions for certain emergencies and put it along with the

> appropriate ingredients on one shelf and make sure that everyone

> knows to go

> to this spot if I am not home or can't tell them.

>

>

>

>

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Ok. I'm working on it now and will pass it on.

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What a great idea! Sorry you got injured though. If you feel like

sharing your laminated instructions, that would be great too!

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i would like a copy of the complete list and i am willing to pay. is this

possible?

thank you in advance no matter what you decide its still great info.

Gaiacita wrote:

I posted this to another non herbal group this morning, and thought

the

reminder of letting everyone in the family know where the herbs are, and an

emergency care sheet idea was something we should all have, so I am copying

it here. Many of us are the family herbalist. But what if it is US that

need the emergency help?

I have my healing herb tinctures in a special place. Normally we use them

for minor things-colds, flu, aches, as we have never had an emergency. This

past weekend I had a chance to see them shine in an emergency. I tangled

the first 3 fingers of my left hand in my table saw. (I'm typing this one

handed) I cut one finger half way across the width of the finger, through

the middle of the nail, and sliced through the upper tips/nails of the other

2. Blood everywhere. I ran into the bathroom and told my husband to get

the DMSO, propolis (raw honey is a good substitute and readily available)

and the cayenne tinc, bandages,scissors and tape. He poured the DMSO on,

which started to slow the bleeding. Then he put the cayenne in a cup so I

could soak my fingers. I started to pass out so he gave me a spoon of

cayenne, which snapped me right out of it. Which was good because it was

making him sick to look at my hand and he couldn't help me bandage it. (he

s squeamish :-). Soaking the fingers in cayenne helped stop the bleeding

enough to wrap them. He soaked a strip of gauze in cayenne while I applied

some propolis to the fingers, then I wrapped each finger in the cayenne

gauze and taped them. Then I laid down for 3 or 4 hours, and after that was

able to get up and finish my project, though it took longer as I could only

use one hand.

The ER would have done basically the same thing but 1) would have charged me

a lot 2) would have given me a shot and 3) put me on a round of antibiotics.

The natural antibiotics in what I applied were stronger than anything they

could have given me and I had zero worries of infection, plus did not upset

the balance if flora in my gut as theirs would have.

One lesson I learned from this is to make sure all my herbs are clearly

labeled and in a place where everyone in the family knows they are at. I am

the herbalist in our house and my husband knows almost nothing about them.

If I had not been able to tell him where they were and what to get me, he

would have been lost. So now I am going to make up a laminated paper with

herbal instructions for certain emergencies and put it along with the

appropriate ingredients on one shelf and make sure that everyone knows to go

to this spot if I am not home or can't tell them.

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Oh shoot. I forgot to send my paper to this list! It is in word 2000

format. Can I send it as an attachment to the whole list, or put it in the

file section--moderators? As soon as I am told how to pass it on I will.

Along with a list of herbalists that I trust. I make most of my own

tinctures but for the ones that I don't have the ingredients for, or just

don't want to make, I buy from these people. Like, I don't make any

salves--I buy them all. These people make products stronger than you will

be able to buy in any store.

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i would like a copy of the complete list and i am willing to pay. is this

possible?

thank you in advance no matter what you decide its still great info.

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Word 2000 should work for just about anybody I think whether as attachment or

inserted copy/paste. Try it & if there's a lone person it doesn't .. save it in

a different format if possible.

For those struggling with costly software problems, I have wonderful luck with

Open Office full suite ... free and it will do all Office 2003 & apparently 07

from what I hear. I do a lot of my work in it, then save it from there in pdf

form so it can't " shift " as with legal captions, and formatting etc. which often

don't travel well!! It will save or export to just about anything. My Microsoft

Office 2003 will not save to pdf whereas it does. My only problem is when I'm

sending to someone who can only open " doc " extension, I can save it in that, but

often I have to convert from my Open Office I've been working & saving in if I,

for instance, want to send it on to someone and it is in open office format,

they may or may not be able to handle it so I convert it or save it in the doc

form. Just go to the url: http://www.openoffice.org/ to download part or all of

the whole suite of features. Joyce

There is ALWAYS a " BETTER WAY " ! Together WE can find IT and make IT a " Cradle

for Humanity " !

Re: Emergency use

Oh shoot. I forgot to send my paper to this list! It is in word 2000

format. Can I send it as an attachment to the whole list, or put it in the

file section--moderators? As soon as I am told how to pass it on I will.

Along with a list of herbalists that I trust. I make most of my own

tinctures but for the ones that I don't have the ingredients for, or just

don't want to make, I buy from these people. Like, I don't make any

salves--I buy them all. These people make products stronger than you will

be able to buy in any store.

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i would like a copy of the complete list and i am willing to pay. is this

possible?

thank you in advance no matter what you decide its still great info.

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can't wait please let me know?

Gaiacita wrote: Oh shoot. I forgot to send my

paper to this list! It is in word 2000

format. Can I send it as an attachment to the whole list, or put it in the

file section--moderators? As soon as I am told how to pass it on I will.

Along with a list of herbalists that I trust. I make most of my own

tinctures but for the ones that I don't have the ingredients for, or just

don't want to make, I buy from these people. Like, I don't make any

salves--I buy them all. These people make products stronger than you will

be able to buy in any store.

-------Original Message-------

i would like a copy of the complete list and i am willing to pay. is this

possible?

thank you in advance no matter what you decide its still great info.

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I just reset the list to allow this attachment. I will keep it at this

setting for the time being.

Garnet

>

> Oh shoot. I forgot to send my paper to this list! It is in word 2000

> format. Can I send it as an attachment to the whole list, or put it

in the

> file section--moderators? As soon as I am told how to pass it on I

will.

> Along with a list of herbalists that I trust. I make most of my own

> tinctures but for the ones that I don't have the ingredients for, or

just

> don't want to make, I buy from these people. Like, I don't make any

> salves--I buy them all. These people make products stronger than

you will

> be able to buy in any store.

>

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

>

> i would like a copy of the complete list and i am willing to pay. is

this

> possible?

> thank you in advance no matter what you decide its still great info.

>

>

>

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Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or 2 pieces and taped together, then laminated.

Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make their own products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for the ones I don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.

I know their work and dedication.

For many different kinds of single and mixed herb tinctures contact Steve at bigbird3969@... and ask for his list of his Lighthouse Herbs. 122-B Edison Ave. Portsmouth, VA 23702-1324

I have Tooth & Gum, Eyewash (with the cayenne included in the formula), Echinacea & a Jewelweed Ointment (for poison ivy and other itches) on my blog site. http://giftsofgodherbals.blogspot.com/

There's a click through on each item to buy at 's site.

Also have that super immune recipe we talked about awhile ago - called it Super Tonic Plus. Dena

These items may also be directly purchased at

WatkinsBringing you Herbally Closer to GraceAt www.HerbalGrace.comPhone

I have all the tinctures as simples, (meaning a single herbal ingredient) along with Propolis, Liver/Gallbladder, Kidney/Bladder, Tooth & Gum,

Also many herbal salves

le "Sorcy" Creswell

Email sorceres@...

http://www.healingbreezes.com

Sangre de Drago is an Amazon rainforest herb.

Ieneke grows many of her own herbal remedies,

But her first aid kit is a one ounce bottle of

Sangre de Drago.

Sangre de Drago can stop bleeding, helps with

Pain, speeds up wound healing, prevents scars

And infection. It also works on burns and insect

Stings. Internally it is helpful for the entire

Digestive tract, from mouth ulcers to stomach

Trouble to IBS. It is good for the immune

System, and makes a great tooth and gum

Tincture all by itself.

Ask Ien for her Sangre de Drago files

Beware of "Drago" on the market that is watered

Down.

The product from the files is 80% pure treesap

And 20% spagyrically extracted inner bark.

Available in liquid capsules or as tincture.

It can be bought here: Drago information

http://tinyurl.com/3ks9b9

Ordering page

http://tinyurl.com/48dm9o

Bonus: any product sold helps to save chunks of

Rainforest in partnership with indigenous people.

To purchase MMS for $15 a bottle plus shipping contact at gaiacita@...

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> For those struggling with costly software problems, I have wonderful

> luck with Open Office full suite ... free and it will do all Office 2003

> & apparently 07 from what I hear.

It doesn't have native support for the new .docx, .xlsx and .pptx

formats, but the upcoming version 3.0 will - as well as full support for

VB macros and password protected documents.

> I do a lot of my work in it, then save it from there in pdf form so

> it can't " shift " as with legal captions, and formatting etc.

Generally, the only time you have formatting problems is if you use

highly formatted tables in Writer, or heavily formatted Presentations...

Honestly, I hardly ever have any real formatting problems between the two.

> My Microsoft Office 2003 will not save to pdf whereas it does.

Yes, I like its built-in PDF export (and Flash) capability - but if

you're on windows, there's always the excellent PDFCreator, which

installs a vurtual PDF-Print driver, so, anything you can print, you can

create a PDF of, whether it is in OOo, Microsoft Office, a web page, or

whatever...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

> My only problem is when I'm sending to someone who

> can only open " doc " extension, I can save it in that, but often I have

> to convert from my Open Office I've been working & saving in if I, for

> instance, want to send it on to someone and it is in open office format,

> they may or may not be able to handle it so I convert it or save it in

> the doc form.

Another option is to just set the default file format for Writer (text),

Calc (spreadsheet) and Impress (presentation) documents to the Microsoft

versions (.doc, .xls and .ppt). I don't do that or recommend it, but if

you are constantly having to do 'Save As', then that may be a reasonable

option for you.

Otherwise, if it is only a select few documents that you are always

converting - just save them ONCE in Microsoft format, then keep your

originals in that format - that way you no longer have to convert before

sending.

> Just go to the url: http://www.openoffice.org/ to download part or

> all of the whole suite of features.

I agree - why pay hundreds of dollars for something that you can get for

free?

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As long as we are on the topic perhaps all list members

could write in and share their

favorite first aid remedies.

I will formulate my list and and it in as well.

This is a very useful list and quite timely in my sense of

things. A lot of the planet

seems to be in crisis at this time with the geopathic stress

evidenced by the earth

quake on the New Madrid Fault and the new volcano erupting

in Hawaii.

I have seen many individuals and families go into sudden

crises this past week. Is theree

something in the water? <grin>

Garnet

Gaiacita wrote:

> Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or 2

> pieces and taped together, then laminated.

>

> Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make their

> own products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for the

> ones I don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.

> I know their work and dedication.

>

>

> For many different kinds of single and mixed herb tinctures contact

> Steve at bigbird3969@... and ask for

> his list of his Lighthouse Herbs. 122-B Edison Ave. Portsmouth, VA

> 23702-1324

>

>

>

> I have Tooth & Gum, Eyewash (with the cayenne included in the formula),

> Echinacea & a Jewelweed Ointment (for poison ivy and other itches) on my

> blog site. http://giftsofgodherbals.blogspot.com/

> <http://giftsofgodherbals.blogspot.com/>

> There's a click through on each item to buy at 's site.

> Also have that super immune recipe we talked about awhile ago - called

> it Super Tonic Plus. Dena

>

> These items may also be directly purchased at

> Watkins

> Bringing you Herbally Closer to Grace

> At www.HerbalGrace.com <http://www.herbalgrace.com/>

> Phone

>

>

>

>

> I have all the tinctures as simples, (meaning a single herbal

> ingredient) along with Propolis, Liver/Gallbladder,

> Kidney/Bladder, Tooth & Gum,

> Also many herbal salves

>

> le " Sorcy " Creswell

> Email sorceres@...

> http://www.healingbreezes.com <http://www.healingbreezes.com/>

>

>

>

>

> Sangre de Drago is an Amazon rainforest herb.

> Ieneke grows many of her own herbal remedies,

> But her first aid kit is a one ounce bottle of

> Sangre de Drago.

>

> Sangre de Drago can stop bleeding, helps with

> Pain, speeds up wound healing, prevents scars

> And infection. It also works on burns and insect

> Stings. Internally it is helpful for the entire

> Digestive tract, from mouth ulcers to stomach

> Trouble to IBS. It is good for the immune

> System, and makes a great tooth and gum

> Tincture all by itself.

>

> Ask Ien for her Sangre de Drago files

> Beware of " Drago " on the market that is watered

> Down.

>

> The product from the files is 80% pure treesap

> And 20% spagyrically extracted inner bark.

> Available in liquid capsules or as tincture.

>

> It can be bought here:

> Drago information

> *http://tinyurl.com/3ks9b9*

> Ordering page

> *http://tinyurl.com/48dm9o*

> Bonus: any product sold helps to save chunks of

> Rainforest in partnership with indigenous people.

>

>

>

>

> To purchase MMS for $15 a bottle plus shipping contact at

> gaiacita@...

>

>

>

>

>

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We also use Open Office. Hubby is a software architect at

Dun and Bradstreet and

he loves it. Previously we used it on our PCs with open

source OS. Now we are using it

on our Macs. Not sure which version. But I know I like it!

Garnet

Simon wrote:

>

>> For those struggling with costly software problems, I have wonderful

>> luck with Open Office full suite ... free and it will do all Office 2003

>> & apparently 07 from what I hear.

>

> It doesn't have native support for the new .docx, .xlsx and .pptx

> formats, but the upcoming version 3.0 will - as well as full support for

> VB macros and password protected documents.

>

>> I do a lot of my work in it, then save it from there in pdf form so

>> it can't " shift " as with legal captions, and formatting etc.

>

> Generally, the only time you have formatting problems is if you use

> highly formatted tables in Writer, or heavily formatted Presentations...

>

> Honestly, I hardly ever have any real formatting problems between the two.

>

>> My Microsoft Office 2003 will not save to pdf whereas it does.

>

> Yes, I like its built-in PDF export (and Flash) capability - but if

> you're on windows, there's always the excellent PDFCreator, which

> installs a vurtual PDF-Print driver, so, anything you can print, you can

> create a PDF of, whether it is in OOo, Microsoft Office, a web page, or

> whatever...

>

> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

>

>> My only problem is when I'm sending to someone who

>> can only open " doc " extension, I can save it in that, but often I have

>> to convert from my Open Office I've been working & saving in if I, for

>> instance, want to send it on to someone and it is in open office format,

>> they may or may not be able to handle it so I convert it or save it in

>> the doc form.

>

> Another option is to just set the default file format for Writer (text),

> Calc (spreadsheet) and Impress (presentation) documents to the Microsoft

> versions (.doc, .xls and .ppt). I don't do that or recommend it, but if

> you are constantly having to do 'Save As', then that may be a reasonable

> option for you.

>

> Otherwise, if it is only a select few documents that you are always

> converting - just save them ONCE in Microsoft format, then keep your

> originals in that format - that way you no longer have to convert before

> sending.

>

>> Just go to the url: http://www.openoffice.org/ to download part or

>> all of the whole suite of features.

>

> I agree - why pay hundreds of dollars for something that you can get for

> free?

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> List Home Page:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>

> Books:

> DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton

> MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo!

Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you SO much for taking the time to do this.  You may well have saved some lives by making this information available.Now, does anyone out there have recipes for effective tick and bug repellants?Mara Ok, here it is.  It is a one page that can be printed both sides or 2 pieces and taped together, then laminated.   Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make their own products, that I trust.  I make most of my own tinctures but for the ones I don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.   I know their work and dedication.      For many different kinds of single and mixed herb tinctures contact Steve at bigbird3969  and ask for his list of his Lighthouse Herbs. 122-B Edison Ave.  Portsmouth, VA  23702-1324       I have Tooth & Gum, Eyewash (with the cayenne included in the formula), Echinacea & a Jewelweed Ointment (for poison ivy and other itches) on my blog site. http://giftsofgodherbals.blogspot.com/ There's a click through on each item to buy at 's site.  Also have that super immune recipe we talked about awhile ago - called it Super Tonic Plus.         Dena   These items may also be directly purchased at WatkinsBringing you Herbally Closer to GraceAt www.HerbalGrace.comPhone         I have all the tinctures as simples, (meaning a single herbal ingredient) along with  Propolis, Liver/Gallbladder, Kidney/Bladder, Tooth & Gum,   Also many herbal salves   le "Sorcy" Creswell Email sorcerest-online (DOT) de http://www.healingbreezes.com         Sangre de Drago is an Amazon rainforest herb.  Ieneke grows many of her own herbal remedies, But her first aid kit is a one ounce bottle of Sangre de Drago.   Sangre de Drago can stop bleeding, helps with Pain, speeds up wound healing, prevents scars And infection. It also works on burns and insect Stings. Internally it is helpful for the entire Digestive tract, from mouth ulcers to stomach Trouble to IBS. It is good for the immune System, and makes a great tooth and gum Tincture all by itself.   Ask Ien for her Sangre de Drago files Beware of "Drago" on the market that is watered Down.   The product from the files is 80% pure treesap And  20% spagyrically extracted inner bark. Available in liquid capsules or as tincture.   It can be bought here: Drago information http://tinyurl.com/3ks9b9  Ordering page  http://tinyurl.com/48dm9o Bonus: any product sold helps to save chunks of Rainforest in partnership with indigenous people.         To purchase MMS for $15 a bottle plus shipping contact at  gaiacitagmail  <Emergency First Aid.doc>

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I will say that making your own simple tinctures is easy. I would suggest that everyone have at least hot pepper tincture on hand. You can go to your local grocery store or Mexican market and buy a few pounds of habanerro peppers. These are the hottest you can buy.

Then buy a bottle of the cheapest American vodka you can buy. By law all American vodka has to be both tasteless and odorless. Therefore they are all the same.

Throw your hot peppers in the blender, cover with vodka and blend until everything is just slush. Pour in a bit more vodka and blend again. Pour this into some quart bottles and top with more vodka so that the slush is covered by 1 inch of liquid. Label the bottles hot pepper tincture and the date.

There, now you have something that can stop heart attacks and strokes, stop bleeding, disinfect wounds, help get rid of cataracts, increase circulation and spice up your chili. :-) a good thing to have on hand and a tincture I make by the gallon because I won't be without.

If, for some reason you can't get habanerros just get the hottest peppers you can. You can also mix the types of peppers you use. Most herbals will say to leave this tinc sit for at least 2 weeks. I never strain any of my tincs for at least 3 months. Normally I don't strain until I actually need them, only straining the amount I need, even though it may be a year or more--it just keeps getting stronger. And then, in an emergency, the top liquid is always clear anyway, the herbs having settled to the bottom.

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As long as we are on the topic perhaps all list members

could write in and share their

favorite first aid remedies.

I will formulate my list and and it in as well.

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I have heard that Catnip Oil is very effective when put into

a lotion at repeling

mosquitoes and flies. Probably does not repel ticks. What

does repel them from

you is to put garden dusting sulfur on the cuffs of your

pants, socks and shoes.

I do not know if you can put it on a dog or cats feet for a

brief walk in the woods

but it is an idea that you could look into.

Ticks are not an insect, they are a arthropod, like red

spider mites and other types

of mites they are hard to kill and repel.

We do not have ticks in central Texas any longer because the

fire ants eat them.

I do know that ducks and chickens will eat them. Indian

Runner Ducks will eat them and

they are a non-flighted breed of duck that only needs a

small kiddie pool of water

to bathe in.

Garnet

Mara Miles wrote:

> Thank you SO much for taking the time to do this. You may well have

> saved some lives by making this information available.

>

> Now, does anyone out there have recipes for effective tick and bug

> repellants?

>

> Mara

>

>

>

>>

>> Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or 2

>> pieces and taped together, then laminated.

>>

>> Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make their

>> own products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for

>> the ones I don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.

>> I know their work and dedication.

>>

>>

>> For many different kinds of single and mixed herb tinctures contact

>> Steve at bigbird3969@... and ask for

>> his list of his Lighthouse Herbs. 122-B Edison Ave. Portsmouth, VA

>> 23702-1324

>>

>>

>>

>> I have Tooth & Gum, Eyewash (with the cayenne included in the

>> formula), Echinacea & a Jewelweed Ointment (for poison ivy and other

>> itches) on my blog site. http://giftsofgodherbals.blogspot.com/

>> <http://giftsofgodherbals.blogspot.com/>

>> There's a click through on each item to buy at 's site.

>> Also have that super immune recipe we talked about awhile ago - called

>> it Super Tonic Plus. Dena

>>

>> These items may also be directly purchased at

>> Watkins

>> Bringing you Herbally Closer to Grace

>> At www.HerbalGrace. <http://www.herbalgrace.com/>com

>> <http://www.herbalgrace.com/>

>> Phone

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> I have all the tinctures as simples, (meaning a single herbal

>> ingredient) along with Propolis, Liver/Gallbladder,

>> Kidney/Bladder, Tooth & Gum,

>> Also many herbal salves

>>

>> le " Sorcy " Creswell

>> Email sorcerest-online (DOT) de

>>

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>> And infection. It also works on burns and insect

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>> Trouble to IBS. It is good for the immune

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>> <Emergency First Aid.doc>

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Hi,

I would very much like to see this list of emergency use, I haven't

found any attachments of Word documents or any other list like

document in my digest posts or on the group home page. I must be

missing something :-(

Could someone help me and either send it to me privately or put the

document in the list files?

Thanking you in advance for your help.

Cheers,

Ian in Spain

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or 2

pieces

and taped together, then laminated.

Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make their

own

products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for the

ones I

don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.

I know their work and dedication.

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-I cannot find this list; would you please email to me also?? I am

using DMSO along with soda on a small tumor on inside of my arm.

Watching patiently but it has moved and seems smaller. Will let you

know but appreciate any other suggestions.

Why would you take dmso internally? I was wondering what that would

do or what benefit that might be??

Thank you all so much.

-- In DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO , " blackymeles "

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I would very much like to see this list of emergency use, I

haven't

> found any attachments of Word documents or any other list like

> document in my digest posts or on the group home page. I must be

> missing something :-(

> Could someone help me and either send it to me privately or put

the

> document in the list files?

>

> Thanking you in advance for your help.

> Cheers,

> Ian in Spain

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or

2

> pieces

> and taped together, then laminated.

>

> Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make

their

> own

> products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for

the

> ones I

> don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.

> I know their work and dedication.

>

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There are many therapeutic benefits I have experienced from

oral DMSO. It is

faster acting than topical and for some conditions such as

head or whole body

trauma that I often treat in my cats and dogs it is the best

route to administer.

I have taken it with CS orally and kicked the flu I had. I

have also experienced a lot

of relief from arthritis stiffness and body soreness from

over exertion.

It is also a superb antioxidant, among other effects.

You might try an archive search on the list home page. Also

buy DMSO Nature's

Healer by Dr Morton .

Garnet

wrote:

> -I cannot find this list; would you please email to me also?? I am

> using DMSO along with soda on a small tumor on inside of my arm.

> Watching patiently but it has moved and seems smaller. Will let you

> know but appreciate any other suggestions.

>

> Why would you take dmso internally? I was wondering what that would

> do or what benefit that might be??

>

> Thank you all so much.

>

>

> -- In DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO , " blackymeles "

> wrote:

>> Hi,

>> I would very much like to see this list of emergency use, I

> haven't

>> found any attachments of Word documents or any other list like

>> document in my digest posts or on the group home page. I must be

>> missing something :-(

>> Could someone help me and either send it to me privately or put

> the

>> document in the list files?

>>

>> Thanking you in advance for your help.

>> Cheers,

>> Ian in Spain

>>

>> Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or

> 2

>> pieces

>> and taped together, then laminated.

>>

>> Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make

> their

>> own

>> products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for

> the

>> ones I

>> don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.

>> I know their work and dedication.

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> List Home Page:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>

> Books:

> DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton

> MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo!

Groups Links

>

>

>

>

>

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But Garnet what you make of the suggestion of 1 teaspoon of DMSO with 3/4th ounce OJ every 15 minutes for Heart Attack, Stroke, please? I don't remember her saying how long one should continue that dosage but I'm concerned that we validate that this is not too much, too soon because I think I remember Morton saying 1 teaspoon per day, and that each teaspoon is gone in five days. Am I wrong in thinking that on the 6th day of Morton's dosage and thereafter, we'd still have 5 teaspoons per day working in us? I just don't know yet how much is too much; don't want us to hurt ourselves. Obie.

From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of GarnetSent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 1:57 AMTo: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Emergency use

There are many therapeutic benefits I have experienced from oral DMSO. It isfaster acting than topical and for some conditions such as head or whole bodytrauma that I often treat in my cats and dogs it is the best route to administer.I have taken it with CS orally and kicked the flu I had. I have also experienced a lotof relief from arthritis stiffness and body soreness from over exertion.It is also a superb antioxidant, among other effects.You might try an archive search on the list home page. Also buy DMSO Nature'sHealer by Dr Morton .Garnet wrote:> -I cannot find this list; would you please email to me also?? I am > using DMSO along with soda on a small tumor on inside of my arm. > Watching patiently but it has moved and seems smaller. Will let you > know but appreciate any other suggestions. > > Why would you take dmso internally? I was wondering what that would > do or what benefit that might be?? > > Thank you all so much. > > > -- In DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO , "blackymeles" > wrote:>> Hi,>> I would very much like to see this list of emergency use, I > haven't >> found any attachments of Word documents or any other list like >> document in my digest posts or on the group home page. I must be >> missing something :-(>> Could someone help me and either send it to me privately or put > the >> document in the list files?>>>> Thanking you in advance for your help.>> Cheers,>> Ian in Spain>>>> Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or > 2 >> pieces>> and taped together, then laminated. >>>> Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make > their >> own>> products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for > the >> ones I>> don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people. >> I know their work and dedication.>>> > > > ------------------------------------> > List Home Page:> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO> > Books:> DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, ND

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I believe the protocol calls for dosing q 15minutes for an

hour or so then

dropping down to every 30 min then every hour in a

descending schedule but

please do your own checking because I am working from memory

only and have

not looked into the schedule closely.

However I would not hesitate personally to take it every 15

minutes for several

hours, and every few hours for days if I felt the urge. This

is just me.

Much higher IV doses have been used with absolutely no harm

to my knowledge.

To attempt to establish and LD50 in the FDA required

toxicology studies for

DMSO when it was a new drug in development seeking FDA

approval the investigators

had to go to ten thousand times the therapeutic dose to make

50% of the animals

die. That is an amazing margin of safety.

DMSO is metabolized in an hour, it does not bioaccumulate to

my knowledge. Many take

oral DMSO every day for years. How much varies but a good

starting point that I chose

was about 5 ccs or a teaspoon.

Dosing to effect is essentially what I do and what many

practitioiners do when calibrating

the effective dose. Since drug metabolism differs in each

individual that is what most

practitioners end up doing, or they over dose in a shot gun

fashion to save time and

money constantly reevaluating.

Also please search out info on IV dosing and how DMSO is

used. Remember that

during oral dosing a pass through the liver will inacivated

much of that dose while

delievery by IV, topical or enema will avoid this first pass

and more will go to the

systemic circulation before the liver gets a shot at it.

Garnet

Obie wrote:

> But Garnet what you make of the suggestion of 1 teaspoon of DMSO with

> 3/4th ounce OJ every 15 minutes for Heart Attack, Stroke, please? I

> don't remember her saying how long one should continue that dosage but

> I'm concerned that we validate that this is not too much, too soon

> because I think I remember Morton saying 1 teaspoon per day, and that

> each teaspoon is gone in five days. Am I wrong in thinking that on the

> 6th day of Morton's dosage and thereafter, we'd still have 5 teaspoons

> per day working in us? I just don't know yet how much is too much;

> don't want us to hurt ourselves. Obie.

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *From:* DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] *On Behalf Of *Garnet

> *Sent:* Saturday, May 03, 2008 1:57 AM

> *To:* DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> *Subject:* Re: Re: Emergency use

>

> There are many therapeutic benefits I have experienced from

> oral DMSO. It is

> faster acting than topical and for some conditions such as

> head or whole body

> trauma that I often treat in my cats and dogs it is the best

> route to administer.

>

> I have taken it with CS orally and kicked the flu I had. I

> have also experienced a lot

> of relief from arthritis stiffness and body soreness from

> over exertion.

>

> It is also a superb antioxidant, among other effects.

>

> You might try an archive search on the list home page. Also

> buy DMSO Nature's

> Healer by Dr Morton .

>

> Garnet

>

> wrote:

> > -I cannot find this list; would you please email to me also?? I am

> > using DMSO along with soda on a small tumor on inside of my arm.

> > Watching patiently but it has moved and seems smaller. Will let you

> > know but appreciate any other suggestions.

> >

> > Why would you take dmso internally? I was wondering what that would

> > do or what benefit that might be??

> >

> > Thank you all so much.

> >

> >

> > -- In DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>, " blackymeles "

> > wrote:

> >> Hi,

> >> I would very much like to see this list of emergency use, I

> > haven't

> >> found any attachments of Word documents or any other list like

> >> document in my digest posts or on the group home page. I must be

> >> missing something :-(

> >> Could someone help me and either send it to me privately or put

> > the

> >> document in the list files?

> >>

> >> Thanking you in advance for your help.

> >> Cheers,

> >> Ian in Spain

> >>

> >> Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or

> > 2

> >> pieces

> >> and taped together, then laminated.

> >>

> >> Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make

> > their

> >> own

> >> products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for

> > the

> >> ones I

> >> don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.

> >> I know their work and dedication.

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > List Home Page:

> >

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO>

> >

> > Books:

> > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton

> > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton,

> ND

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Well, that's wonderful advice, thank you. I'll try to follow up on it, Obie.

From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of GarnetSent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:46 AMTo: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Re: Emergency use

I believe the protocol calls for dosing q 15minutes for an hour or so thendropping down to every 30 min then every hour in a descending schedule butplease do your own checking because I am working from memory only and havenot looked into the schedule closely.However I would not hesitate personally to take it every 15 minutes for severalhours, and every few hours for days if I felt the urge. This is just me.Much higher IV doses have been used with absolutely no harm to my knowledge.To attempt to establish and LD50 in the FDA required toxicology studies forDMSO when it was a new drug in development seeking FDA approval the investigatorshad to go to ten thousand times the therapeutic dose to make 50% of the animalsdie. That is an amazing margin of safety.DMSO is metabolized in an hour, it does not bioaccumulate to my knowledge. Many takeoral DMSO every day for years. How much varies but a good starting point that I chosewas about 5 ccs or a teaspoon.Dosing to effect is essentially what I do and what many practitioiners do when calibratingthe effective dose. Since drug metabolism differs in each individual that is what mostpractitioners end up doing, or they over dose in a shot gun fashion to save time andmoney constantly reevaluating.Also please search out info on IV dosing and how DMSO is used. Remember thatduring oral dosing a pass through the liver will inacivated much of that dose whiledelievery by IV, topical or enema will avoid this first pass and more will go to thesystemic circulation before the liver gets a shot at it.GarnetObie wrote:> But Garnet what you make of the suggestion of 1 teaspoon of DMSO with > 3/4th ounce OJ every 15 minutes for Heart Attack, Stroke, please? I > don't remember her saying how long one should continue that dosage but > I'm concerned that we validate that this is not too much, too soon > because I think I remember Morton saying 1 teaspoon per day, and that > each teaspoon is gone in five days. Am I wrong in thinking that on the > 6th day of Morton's dosage and thereafter, we'd still have 5 teaspoons > per day working in us? I just don't know yet how much is too much; > don't want us to hurt ourselves. Obie.> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> *From:* DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] *On Behalf Of *Garnet> *Sent:* Saturday, May 03, 2008 1:57 AM> *To:* DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > *Subject:* Re: Re: Emergency use> > There are many therapeutic benefits I have experienced from> oral DMSO. It is> faster acting than topical and for some conditions such as> head or whole body> trauma that I often treat in my cats and dogs it is the best> route to administer.> > I have taken it with CS orally and kicked the flu I had. I> have also experienced a lot> of relief from arthritis stiffness and body soreness from> over exertion.> > It is also a superb antioxidant, among other effects.> > You might try an archive search on the list home page. Also> buy DMSO Nature's> Healer by Dr Morton .> > Garnet> > wrote:> > -I cannot find this list; would you please email to me also?? I am> > using DMSO along with soda on a small tumor on inside of my arm.> > Watching patiently but it has moved and seems smaller. Will let you> > know but appreciate any other suggestions.> >> > Why would you take dmso internally? I was wondering what that would> > do or what benefit that might be??> >> > Thank you all so much.> >> > > > -- In DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>, "blackymeles"> > wrote:> >> Hi,> >> I would very much like to see this list of emergency use, I> > haven't> >> found any attachments of Word documents or any other list like> >> document in my digest posts or on the group home page. I must be> >> missing something :-(> >> Could someone help me and either send it to me privately or put> > the> >> document in the list files?> >>> >> Thanking you in advance for your help.> >> Cheers,> >> Ian in Spain> >>> >> Ok, here it is. It is a one page that can be printed both sides or> > 2> >> pieces> >> and taped together, then laminated.> >>> >> Below I have also included a list of herbal suppliers that make> > their> >> own> >> products, that I trust. I make most of my own tinctures but for> > the> >> ones I> >> don't, or the salves I don't make, I buy from these people.> >> I know their work and dedication.> >>> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> > List Home Page:> >> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO>> >> > Books:> > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, > ND

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>Why would you take dmso internally?<

To stop a stroke or various other deadly things. In which case it may be

that the best defense is a good offense, so take a little regularly.

To De-Calcify.

To Detox.

I'm doing it for all the above. I'm just taking one teaspoon once a week.

It's working pretty good to keep me at a comfortable level of detox.

I'm taking a lot of kelp lately. Many species are known to contain arsenic.

The source I'm taking* appears to either have no arsenic or so little that

it can't be accurately measured. Nevertheless, sulfur and sulfur compounds

are known to take arsenic out of the body. I figure DMSO is good insurance.

I already know that the detox effects are considerably stronger than MSM.

(*Thorvin certified organic Laminaria Digitata, sold by Frontier Co-op but

the Thorvin name is not on it.)

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Do you mix with anything and how soon before eating or after eating do you take it?

Joe

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I use the 99.9%, one teaspoon, or actually one capful which is about that.GarnetWILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:> A little info please. When you say you take it orally, I seem to > remember you saying 99.99%. Are you taking the straight DMSO orally or > mixing it with something to dilute it? I haven't personally taken it > orally yet but have given reduced percentage amounts to one of the dogs > that suffered a stroke.> > >

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I mixed it with Orange Juice. I have in an emergency used

Coke but would not

recommend this just because of the cr*p that might be in a Coke.

I always take it on an empty stomach after one time taking

it with food in my stomach.

It made me feel slightly nauseaous. I have also read that

one should take it on

an empty stomach.

Garnet

JoeT wrote:

> Do you mix with anything and how soon before eating or after eating do

> you take it?

> Joe

>

>

> * Re: Re: Emergency use

>

> I use the 99.9%, one teaspoon, or actually one capful which

> is about that.

>

> Garnet

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