Re: DMSO and odor questions

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The odor is from Dimethyl Sulfide, a break down product of

DMSO metabolism in the body.

Some people metabolize it differently, apparently. Not sure

if there are any actual studies

on this. But it seems that the odor associated with DMSO use

is dependant on individual metabolism so it

will not in theory make a difference if you use USP vs Vet

Grade. Generally the impurity is water

any way.

I did look into the deodorized DMSO. It is on www. jacoblab

..com, I don't recall the full

details but it involved scenting it with Wintergreen if

memory serves. This would not affect

metabolism to my knowledge and is only for topical use.

Wintergreen is ALWAYS a

synthetically produced Essential Oil and I believe can be

kidney toxic. I stopped using

it when Butch Owens of Anatolian Treasures mentioned this to

me. There is no such

thing as naturally extracted Wintergreen oil, any that

claims to be is misleading, according

to Butch. He has a great website BTW and many excellent

quality oils and resources.

Garnet

ransley wrote:

> So- with all this going back and forth about who stinks and who don't

> <grin>...

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> Can anyone tell us if there is any difference if we buy a USP grade of DMSO?

>

>

> I've been buying mine from www.dmso.com, and I've been saying that it is

> 99.9% purity but I just checked and I was wrong, it's 99%. It is not USP.

> Good stuff anyway, but maybe I need USP grade?

>

> Also- what about the supposed " Deodorized DMSO " ? I've googled and come up

> short. Anybody got a lead on that?

>

> Oops- I just now saw Garnet's comments: >

>> As far as I know all OTC DMSO is the same. Only the USP grade is more

> pure.<

>

> Garnet- does this mean that we cannot buy USP grade without a scrip?

>

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> Daddybob

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>The odor is from Dimethyl Sulfide, a break down product of DMSO metabolism

in the body.

Some people metabolize it differently, apparently. <

I reckon I'm just a stinker;>)

OK, is Dimethyl Sulfide in any way responsible for any of the good effects?

If that is the case then we would not want to break it down prematurely.

But- if Dimethyl Sulfide is purely a by-product, if it is made AFTER any

good effects are going to happen, then what could we do to break that

chemical down faster?

Apparently chlorophyll just is not going to work for some of us.

In Chile, it was found that raw milk drinkers (children) were less

susceptible to the odor, but I tried taking it with raw milk and got sick.

Apparently despite being a regular raw milk drinker, I still metabolize DMSO

in a very odoriferous way.

So- is there some other food or herb that might help?

Where's ? are you here? Jump in here. You too Sharon.

Help! I STINK!

Dang- why do I always have to find the dark side of every good thing?

Daddybob

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Dang- why do I always have to find the dark side of every good thing?DB,You managed to find the good side of one very stinky thing....mara

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I can't imagine anything else that can help you, seeing as how chlorophyll doesn't work. For "regular" food stink problems it is parsley, or fennel or mint. All of these work on breath smell, and stomach problems that may cause the smell, but perhaps have no value when it comes to DMSO.

Guess all you can do is live with it. We are such a fastidious nation that we can't stand to have others think we smell. People of other nations eat their food and smell and think nothing of it. Talk to an Indian and smell STRONG curry breath, talk to the Italians and smell STRONG garlic. But it is their food, and everyone in their families eat it and so they all smell it and don't think an thing about it.

Not us. I gave my Mom Dr. Schulze's pain tincture. It has a very strong odor of menthol. She put it on and was amazed that all her shoulder pain went away and she even got movement back in it. A few days later I went over and she was in pain again. I asked her why she didn't use the tincture and she said she had gone downtown and didn't want people to think she smelled. Granted, when you walked into her house, and she had the tinc on, you could smell it in the room. Didn't even need to be close to her to smell it. But she would rather have dealt with the pain than the idea of strangers thinking she smelled.

I suppose it is too much when your own family thinks you smell, though. At least with the other nationalities, everyone in the family smells the same. Sorry Bob. I'm not much help. Maybe Sharon has better offerings.

I don't know where the DMSO is breaking down. If it is in the stomach, perhaps taking it with one of the above mentioned things would cover the smell. But if the smell is an indication of the chemical that is doing the pain relief job, then in reality, you don't want to stop that break down. Bob--I think you are between a rock and a hard spot.

Samala,

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Where's ? are you here? Jump in here. You too Sharon.

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There's the solution right there, .

Use it in the food, so they ALL get it!

Chuck

I went to a seafood disco rave last week.... and pulled a mussel.

>I suppose it is too much when your own family thinks you smell, though. At

>least with the other nationalities, everyone in the family smells the same.

> Sorry Bob. I'm not much help. Maybe Sharon has better offerings.

>

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I suppose it is too much when your own family thinks you smell, though. At

least with the other nationalities, everyone in the family smells the same.

Sorry Bob. I'm not much help. Maybe Sharon has better offerings.

I don't know where the DMSO is breaking down. If it is in the stomach, perhaps

taking it with one of the above mentioned things would cover the smell. But if

the smell is an indication of the chemical that is doing the pain relief job,

then in reality, you don't want to stop that break down. Bob--I think you are

between a rock and a hard spot.

Samala,

Sharon is itching to come up with a solution as I don't dare take it

again--------not with THE MAN threatening to move to a hotel if he ever smells

that 'fishy' odor again.

He was 30 feet away from me when he walked into the house and demanded to know

why I was cooking fish!

DMSO is such a penetrant that it must permeate every cell in the body. Then, I

guess it's going to metabolize away differently in different people.

Sulphur. It seems to be a problem with autistics, but I don't know enough about

it. I do know that parent's and alt professionals are working in that area.

It has to do with 'methylation'.

Some people are 'over methylators'; some are 'under methylators'.

As a very broad generality, I've discovered that the 'unders' seem to have more

histamine related problems.

Just recently I've had some high histamine reactions after contact w poison ivy,

then a bee sting. And obviously when I take a measly 1/4 tsp of DMSO, the odor

radiates across a wide area!

So, do those who have no problems with DMSO odors fall into the overmethylated

group?

And, vice versa?

The supplement called SAMe is specific for undermethylators, and so is

methionine. I've got more research to do, but have some further info on file.

DB, are you a fairly allergic kinda guy?

This way, maybe we all put some pieces into this puzzle................

Sharon

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The smell is from the DMSO being metabolized by the liver. If chlorophyll

Doesn't mute the smell, I don't know what would...

jp

I suppose it is too much when your own family thinks you smell, though. At

least with the other nationalities, everyone in the family smells the same.

Sorry Bob. I'm not much help. Maybe Sharon has better offerings.

I don't know where the DMSO is breaking down. If it is in the stomach,

perhaps taking it with one of the above mentioned things would cover the

smell. But if the smell is an indication of the chemical that is doing the

pain relief job, then in reality, you don't want to stop that break down.

Bob--I think you are between a rock and a hard spot.

Samala,

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>DB, are you a fairly allergic kinda guy?<

In general, no, at least to external skin type allergens. Never had poison

ivy or oak in my life despite numerous and repeated exposures.

Used to be highly reactive to ragweed but that got better. Had that reaction

to extremely dry fescue hay a few months ago but that was quelled by oral

DMSO.

I'm still careful about eating corn but these days a single exposure or two

is nothing close to the problem it was a few years ago.

Not terribly reactive to bee/wasp/fireant stings.

I used to be a real meal deal for deer flies but they don't bother me

anything like they used to. HMMM>>>many of us have crosstalked many times on

these groups about alternative insect repellents but I don''t think we've

ever touched on DMSO for that. It may be good for working outside but I bet

it would ruin a lawn party!

DB

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DB,

One of your insect repellants already in place is the Diamond V yeast. Brewer's

yeast, in any and all forms, is known to keep insects away from most, if not all

users.

But, if insects react to DMSO the way people around us do, then surely you've

found another insect repellant. Doggone stuff repels everybody else!

Sharon

> >DB, are you a fairly allergic kinda guy?<

>

> In general, no, at least to external skin type allergens. Never had poison

> ivy or oak in my life despite numerous and repeated exposures.

>

> Used to be highly reactive to ragweed but that got better. Had that reaction

> to extremely dry fescue hay a few months ago but that was quelled by oral

> DMSO.

>

> I'm still careful about eating corn but these days a single exposure or two

> is nothing close to the problem it was a few years ago.

>

> Not terribly reactive to bee/wasp/fireant stings.

>

> I used to be a real meal deal for deer flies but they don't bother me

> anything like they used to. HMMM>>>many of us have crosstalked many times on

> these groups about alternative insect repellents but I don''t think we've

> ever touched on DMSO for that. It may be good for working outside but I bet

> it would ruin a lawn party!

>

> DB

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Sharon,

I have no allergies at all and I stink to high heavens taking the DMSO. However, since taking the liquid chlorophyll for several weeks now, I haven't had the opportunity to try the DMSO daily to see if the long term use of the chlorophyll will help now that's in my system pretty good. Maybe I can try after today - my Aunt just passed away and I'll be a funeral today and other family gatherings tonight. If not dead on my feet, will try to remember to take a dose before going to bed tonight and then find some "sniffers" at work tomorrow? >sigh<

I'll let y'all know!

Ruth B.

Sharon is itching to come up with a solution as I don't dare take it again--------not with THE MAN threatening to move to a hotel if he ever smells that 'fishy' odor again.He was 30 feet away from me when he walked into the house and demanded to know why I was cooking fish!DMSO is such a penetrant that it must permeate every cell in the body. Then, I guess it's going to metabolize away differently in different people.Sulphur. It seems to be a problem with autistics, but I don't know enough about it. I do know that parent's and alt professionals are working in that area.It has to do with 'methylation'. Some people are 'over methylators'; some are 'under methylators'.As a very broad generality, I've discovered that the 'unders' seem to have more histamine related problems.Just recently I've had some high histamine reactions after contact w poison ivy, then a bee sting. And obviously when I take a measly 1/4 tsp of DMSO, the odor radiates across a wide area!So, do those who have no problems with DMSO odors fall into the overmethylated group?And, vice versa?The supplement called SAMe is specific for undermethylators, and so is methionine. I've got more research to do, but have some further info on file.DB, are you a fairly allergic kinda guy?This way, maybe we all put some pieces into this puzzle................Sharon------------------------------------List Home Page:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSOBooks:DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, ND

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Hi DB,

I want to be certain that Chlorophyll does not work for you

by reviewing what when where on the dosing.

I found that 2 50mg KAL brabnd chewables helped me but did

not eliminate odor if I was using DMSO orally

at about 1t or soaking in a bath with 1/4 c.

But when I follow the oral dose, 20 minutes later, with 2T

of liquid chlorophyll, both family members said

they could not detect any odor.

Also when you took it with milk that might be the source of

your nausea. I always take DMSO on a totally

empty stomach. Tried it an hour after a meal only once --

made me very queasy. It can also give some

people a transient, short lived, headache presumably from

the vasodialtion it causes.

Garnet