Re: Re: moderators (Elena) - ltwobk

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Dear love,

I am having a hard time deciding who is more funny, Tami or you.

You two aren't by chance the same person with two differents accounts

here?

Ok.

I am sorry.

I feel some people here are really trying to work this out, and I

should take what you say as sincere as I take the other posts.

I'll go on with Elias work.

Love and joy,

PS:

> Actually it is a manifestation of hate, but it takes a very high

> level of clarity to see that.

I am glad you are on such a high level. It must be very lonely there,

hm?

This group is NOT a event. I heard your pictures of what this

group is like and what is happening with it. And I can't see it that

way.

Please, DON'T read a post, if you know that it's likely it will just

upset you. Or do.

MY picture of this group is a meadow, whilst the members are flowers.

Now, one member is a butterfly, and sometimes it joins us.

Am 01.02.2006 um 00:36 schrieb lovetheworkofbk:

>

>> R: i don t read her posts. i don t look at this group as often as i

> did before she contributed so much; i am exaspetated. i think of

> finding penpals rather than contributing to this group. i also get to

> feel superior.

>

> Hi Elena,

>

> One of my favorite shows is Super Nanny. I think the American

> counterpart of this show is Nanny 911. Anyway every week we see an

> unruly child or children causing havoc in the household which two

> loving parents indulge, because they believe that loving their kids

> means that they can do what they want.

>

> We see exactly the same senario in this group. Tami is the ego driven

> unruly child, and the moderators are the loving parents who are firmly

> conviced that the most loving thing to do is to let Tami be totally

> free to say what she pleases. If anyone suggests that the child (Tami)

> needs to have some boundaries set, we are told that Tami is not the

> problem, it's our thinking that's the problem. Which is true, however

> that does not mean that Tami does not need more boundaries set.

> In the television show the super nanny helps the parents to see that

> it's really not very loving to let the child do what he/she wants. She

> shows them that the child needs to have boundaries set. The child

> initially rebels against the new rules and all hell breaks loose, yet

> with time and patience the child eventually learns that more

> acceptable behaviour, brings them the love of their parents which they

> were really seeking all along.

>

> The important thing the parents (moderators) need to learn is that

> unconditional love does not mean that you do not set boundaries. For

> an unruly ego like Tami the highest expression of unconditional love

> is to set limits, not further indulge the ego selfishness. I am sure

> that Tami has been kicked off numerous internet groups, because that

> is the most loving thing to do. Eventually after being kicked off

> enough groups, she might learn to play nice. The fact that we indulge

> her immaturity here is NOT an expression of unconditional love but an

> expression of the deep confusion of the moderators and ironically

> their lack of unconditional love.

>

> Such is the sad state of this list, and why I prefer to spend my time

> in the golf forums where there actually is some unconditional love.

>

> Have a beautiful day

>

>

> " The old song asks, " Why do fools fall in love? " Actually, only fools

> don't fall in love. Only a fool would believe the lonely, stressful

> thoughts that tell him that anything could separate him from another

> human being, or from the rest of the human race, or from birds, trees,

> pavement, and sky. " Byron

>

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