Re: Types of Speech Evaluations

[Guest guest]

Dear Suzi,

Some suggestions for testing: All are available from SUPER DUPER

PUBLICATIONS 1.800.277.8737 Email-- custserv@...

web page www.superduperinc.com [2001-2002 catalog]

These tests may give an overall picture of the child's oral motor,

nonverbal intelligence, and receptive / expressive language ability

levels.

Oral Speech Mechanism Screening [ages 5 to 78]

Non-Speech Test[ages 0 to 48 months]

Comprehensive Test of Nonverbal Intelligence[ages 6 to 90]

Non Speech Test for Receptive/Expressive Language[ages 6 to

90)

Kaufman Speech Praxis Test for Kids [ages 2 to 5]

Weiss Comprehensive Articulation Test [all ages}

Cheryl SLS/MA Educational Consultant

VP CHERAB

http://www.apraxia.cc

--- In @y..., " luckygmstwife " <suzi_knowles@p...>

wrote:

> I'm wondering what types of evaluations are recommended for

apraxics.

>

> The school district therapist did the following tests on my

daughter:

>

> Arizona Articulation Proficiency Scale

> Peabody Picture Vocabulary Test: Third Edition (PPVT-III)

>

> I do not believe these were very thorough tests, and I want to find

> out what other tests are recommended.

>

> Our private speech therapist (who is now on maternity leave)

> recommended using the:

> Kahn- Test

>

> Any recommendations would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Suzi

[Guest guest]

I read the post regarding what types of tests are given for apraxia. As I

have stated before, two speech therapists, one being an oral facial myologist

(I would highly recommend finding a therapist that specializes in that) and

the other one being in practice for 20 years, said it is very hard to

diagnose apraxia in young children, say ages 2-4. However, a young speech

pathologist said my four year old did have apraxia. Our son, Cory, age four,

actually sees the speech pathologist/oral facial myologist (in practice for

30 years) and the young one who has only 4 years experience. He gets many

good things from both. I believe that Cory is not apraxic, but each of them

offers their own type of therapy. The oral facial myologist also does the

prompt method which really helps Cory with the sounds he needs to make. In

the last 3 months he has just taken off and says 5-8 word sentences. He was

not doing that three months ago. The oral facial myologist said if he were

apraxic, he could not imitate words very well, if at all. She says that a

lot of kids with speech problems are just thrown in a melting pot and labeled

" apraxic " .

I see all these posts and feel sorry for all of you that are questioning your

children's diagnosis. I had actually gotten 4 opinions. It is worth the

money to truly find out what is going on with your child.

Any questions about the oral facial myologist/speech therapist, please email

me.

[Guest guest]

I have received this comment from my child's school SLP on more than

one occasion. At one point she said if he was really apraxic he would

not have made so much progress! (She thinks EFAs are a stretch) Once

I received a diagnosis from a developmental pediatrician and private

SLP, I think she still disagrees but keeps it to herself. She too is

great with the oral motor aspect and pragmatics. With her

multisensory approach of visual, oral motor and tactile cues (not

PROMPT) is getting inappropriate therapy at school.

However I think that it may be a misconception that if a child does

not " grope " for his words, if his approximations are consistent and

the can imitate that they are not apraxic. (I wonder if this is

related to what they were taught re: adult apraxia) I think the

problem is that every child is different and where one may have a set

group of vowels and consonants that they use with substitutions

others may be completely non-verbal. Some may have consonant deletion

and yes others may grope for words.

I think whatever the symptons are, if the therapy works then go with

it. My hope is that one day all our children will lose the apraxia

diagnosis and no one will even know they had speech issues.

>The oral facial myologist said if he were

> apraxic, he could not imitate words very well, if at all. She says

that a

> lot of kids with speech problems are just thrown in a melting pot

and labeled

> " apraxic " .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Jack also repeats, but never use to since EFA's, now I

have also heard that if they can repeat no way is it

Apraxia. I will be taking him to a new Prvt. SLP and

am extremely curious as to what she has to say never

seeing JAck only reading reports from the past. I

think it would confuse me greatly if she said he is

not apraxic, even though that is my wish. I plan on

telling her about the efa's regardless of her opinion

but, I have heard she is highly trained in Apraxia for

the past 12 years dealing with children. We shall see!

Eileen

[Guest guest]

Interesting as had very little imitation as well before EFAs.

--- In @y..., eileen galusha <seanzonigal@y...>

wrote:

> Hi ,

> Jack also repeats, but never use to since EFA's,

[Guest guest]

My daughter is classic apraxia, and the school speech therapist

didn't catch it until I demonstrated. Her evaluation included

pictures of things. can say most one syllable words these

days. She breaks down when it comes to 2, 3 or more syllable words,

and she breaks down when it comes to sentences.

The speech therapist didn't even think about evaluating for

apraxia. She readily recognized it when I asked to say her

full name " " , her teacher's name " Mrs. " . She only

said those things with lots of prompts. Then I asked her to say her

address, and she totally said " I don't know " . She couldn't say our

street name or city, even with prompting.

It's a problem because the goals for the coming school year are

based on these evaluations. The girls are definitely apraxic, and

have been diagnosed by 3 private speech therapist as having apraxia.

We can't keep on affording private evaluations and private speech

therapy. I have twins. Insurance will not pay for one of my twins,

and they are barely paying for the other twin. My 7 year old son

could also use some speech therapy for some articulation issues, but

we can't afford that.

> I read the post regarding what types of tests are given for

apraxia. As I

> have stated before, two speech therapists, one being an oral

facial myologist

> (I would highly recommend finding a therapist that specializes in

that) and

> the other one being in practice for 20 years, said it is very hard

to

> diagnose apraxia in young children, say ages 2-4. However, a

young speech

> pathologist said my four year old did have apraxia. Our son,

Cory, age four,

> actually sees the speech pathologist/oral facial myologist (in

practice for

> 30 years) and the young one who has only 4 years experience. He

gets many

> good things from both. I believe that Cory is not apraxic, but

each of them

> offers their own type of therapy. The oral facial myologist also

does the

> prompt method which really helps Cory with the sounds he needs to

make. In

> the last 3 months he has just taken off and says 5-8 word

sentences. He was

> not doing that three months ago. The oral facial myologist said

if he were

> apraxic, he could not imitate words very well, if at all. She

says that a

> lot of kids with speech problems are just thrown in a melting pot

and labeled

> " apraxic " .

>

> I see all these posts and feel sorry for all of you that are

questioning your

> children's diagnosis. I had actually gotten 4 opinions. It is

worth the

> money to truly find out what is going on with your child.

>

> Any questions about the oral facial myologist/speech therapist,

please email

> me.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Suzi.....if you have a college or university near you, perhaps a half-hour

away, and if they have a speech and language teaching program, it could be

well worth your while to visit and ask lots of questions about getting

therapy for your children.

Vera

> My daughter is classic apraxia, and the school speech therapist

> didn't catch it until I demonstrated. Her evaluation included

> pictures of things. can say most one syllable words these

> days. She breaks down when it comes to 2, 3 or more syllable words,

> and she breaks down when it comes to sentences.

>

> The speech therapist didn't even think about evaluating for

> apraxia. She readily recognized it when I asked to say her

> full name " " , her teacher's name " Mrs. " . She only

> said those things with lots of prompts. Then I asked her to say her

> address, and she totally said " I don't know " . She couldn't say our

> street name or city, even with prompting.

>

> It's a problem because the goals for the coming school year are

> based on these evaluations. The girls are definitely apraxic, and

> have been diagnosed by 3 private speech therapist as having apraxia.

>

> We can't keep on affording private evaluations and private speech

> therapy. I have twins. Insurance will not pay for one of my twins,

> and they are barely paying for the other twin. My 7 year old son

> could also use some speech therapy for some articulation issues, but

> we can't afford that.

>