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I am crying with joy, just to receive your letters saying you are thinking

of us is enough, I printed them out to show to Dave and within 15mins he was

taking a shower, but went back to bed after. You dont know how much coaxing I

have to do to get him to attempt these small tasks. He is due to take the weekly

dose of Clindamisyn tomorrow and he is hoping he will start to feel a bit better

after that, at least he is starting to talk a bit more positive.

He isn't apposed to taking the ant-depressants it is just the prednisone he

doesn't want again, although after going almost a year without anything but the

antibiotics any tablets make him feel he is going backwards.

We will get there with your support I know it Thank You Guys......LINDA.

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I hope and pray you get better I to have been going through hell

are we paying for a past life? I sure think Iv paid enough to start over as a

King with a harem but that s probably what got me here in the first place????

Bless you and if you haven't read " Conversations with god " it can be of great

comfort at these 'times' Root

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Skip & Denny

The gentleman's name is Neale Walsch

G.P.Putman & Sons=Publisher

Name of Books " Conversations with God *an uncommon dialogue*

same name 2 and 3 Each approach the ability to talk with God

on your and Gods terms . After many years of Catholic brainwashing I had

turned the switch off on God. Heard that before?

Quite by whim in a hospital bed I was really down and thought there was a

possibility I might pass on. As Im just 49 I still have a genetic survival

instinct . I analyzed my fear as this was not the first time

death was at my door and each time I never gave a second thought to a God of

hell or heaven just took it, and was glad to wake up breathing . Just 3

months ago I was in the E.R. they gave me a

med via shot and in 3 min. I knew I was dying . Sure enough

I was. I was pulled out of the white light to 5 ICU folks

and piles of " save em " paraphernalia. Never to give a thought to God.

Walch gave me intellectual license to search , to drop my pride or wall ,

whatever hold us from a great comfort that we can tap into any time.

So Im in bed and tired of being tired and I had brought this book.

I picked it up again on a whim as no one I know has read it.

Then my story is " mine " . I cannot influence anyone from here.

Nor can I say that my beliefs parallel anyone else's.

But it is a great comfort when Im down and feeling sorry for me.

I hope you get something out of his book there is something there for

everyone . The atheist and the preacher alike.

God Bless you Root

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, I forgot to mention in my previous post to you, that I also take

ibuprofen for the inflammation, I believe Dr. Brown thought this was necessary

for the AP to do its full job, I believe, that that is why he used the

prednisone in small doses every once in a while along with the antibiotic.

Another thing that helps me on my bad days, is to re-read the case histories in

The New Arthritis Breakthrough. Skip

rheumatic TEARS OF JOY

I am crying with joy, just to receive your letters saying you are

thinking of us is enough, I printed them out to show to Dave and within 15mins

he was taking a shower, but went back to bed after. You dont know how much

coaxing I have to do to get him to attempt these small tasks. He is due to take

the weekly dose of Clindamisyn tomorrow and he is hoping he will start to feel a

bit better after that, at least he is starting to talk a bit more positive.

He isn't apposed to taking the ant-depressants it is just the

prednisone he doesn't want again, although after going almost a year without

anything but the antibiotics any tablets make him feel he is going backwards.

We will get there with your support I know it Thank You

Guys......LINDA.

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, I love your postings. Who is the Author of Conversations with God?

Skip & Denny

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j

I hope and pray you get better I to have been going through hell

are we paying for a past life? I sure think Iv paid enough to start over as

a

King with a harem but that s probably what got me here in the first

place????

Bless you and if you haven't read " Conversations with god " it can be of

great comfort at these 'times' Root

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correct me if I'm wrong but I think 's message was that he found God in

this book.And I think that's wonderful.I think his message was to encourage an

opened mind.And that's wonderful too.I have never been upset with someone who

turned away from God..because people usually have a very good reason for

feeling that way and you can't force God on a person..just be patient and

encourage them.And be thankful for your own faith and grace.

Joanie

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To The List:

Religion stirs up deep feelings especially when a specific religion is

mentioned. I vehemently resent anyone making derogatory remarks against my

religious beliefs or anyone's religion.. I have had it with the prejudice and

bigotry that seems to be so rampant.

I am responding publicly because the comment was so made. I apologize if I

offend anyone. However, I am deeply offended and I will stand up for my faith.

ROBERT:

I am sorry for the loss of your faith and I will pray that you return to

grace. Should you not, I hope you have the common courtesy, and charity, not to

make such inflammatory, and untrue remarks. Furthermore, it is ignorant.

O'Connor

ROBERT M ROOTS wrote:

> From: " ROBERT M ROOTS " <RU42354@...>

>

> Skip & Denny

> The gentleman's name is Neale Walsch

> G.P.Putman & Sons=Publisher

> Name of Books " Conversations with God *an uncommon dialogue*

> same name 2 and 3 Each approach the ability to talk with God

> on your and Gods terms . After many years of Catholic brainwashing I had

> turned the switch off on God. Heard that before?

> Quite by whim in a hospital bed I was really down and thought there was a

> possibility I might pass on. As Im just 49 I still have a genetic survival

> instinct . I analyzed my fear as this was not the first time

> death was at my door and each time I never gave a second thought to a God of

> hell or heaven just took it, and was glad to wake up breathing . Just 3

> months ago I was in the E.R. they gave me a

> med via shot and in 3 min. I knew I was dying . Sure enough

> I was. I was pulled out of the white light to 5 ICU folks

> and piles of " save em " paraphernalia. Never to give a thought to God.

> Walch gave me intellectual license to search , to drop my pride or wall ,

> whatever hold us from a great comfort that we can tap into any time.

> So Im in bed and tired of being tired and I had brought this book.

> I picked it up again on a whim as no one I know has read it.

> Then my story is " mine " . I cannot influence anyone from here.

> Nor can I say that my beliefs parallel anyone else's.

> But it is a great comfort when Im down and feeling sorry for me.

> I hope you get something out of his book there is something there for

> everyone . The atheist and the preacher alike.

> God Bless you Root

>

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If it takes letters to get up, and to bring you some joy, I will add my

words of support and good wishes. & a suggestion

Can get clindamycin for 5 days (oral, or IV)?

In a message dated 1/30/99 8:20:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dshipman@... writes:

> I am crying with joy, just to receive your letters saying you are thinking

> of us is enough, I printed them out to show to Dave and within 15mins he was

> taking a shower, but went back to bed after. You dont know how much coaxing

I

> have to do to get him to attempt these small tasks. He is due to take the

> weekly dose of Clindamisyn tomorrow and he is hoping he will start to feel a

> bit better after that, at least he is starting to talk a bit more positive.

>

> He isn't apposed to taking the ant-depressants it is just the

> prednisone he doesn't want again, although after going almost a year without

> anything but the antibiotics any tablets make him feel he is going

backwards.

>

>

> We will get there with your support I know it Thank You Guys......

> LINDA.

>

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In a message dated 1/30/99 8:20:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dshipman@... writes:

> it is just the prednisone he doesn't want again, although after going

almost

> a year without anything but the antibiotics any tablets make him feel he is

> going backwards.

Dr. Brown used low doses of steriods on occasions to keep a herx (or maybe a

flare too) in check

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Please tell me what it is I said that offended you so.

I truly believe and so did our founding fathers that we all

have the freedom of pursuit of our religion. Mine is no more

or less valid or important or better then yours, or anyone's. I think I

stated that.

My belief is we approach God from the way God will best

approach us . I have not slammed any religion , in fact I refrained from

explaining my beliefs just for the reason you gave. Everyone has a personal

relationship with God that is between God and that person. If you are

telling me I will go to hell if I do not share your beliefs then you should

do the Christian thing and pray for me as I

know I need it. There was no dogma in my post. I just wanted to share a

comfort I found when in the pain of a flare. God has been a bosom buddy

lately as my disease is rampant. I respect all religions.

I respect even more those that are secure enough in their faith

to realize God is the Father of All His children and all His children are

not the same. Is there room for my beliefs in your world??

Bless you and keep you. If the comment about brain washing

offended you, Im sorry, to brainwash a chronic criminal may be a good thing.

Im not a criminal , but to listen to someone else's

opinion of what God is 5 days a week for 12 years may technically qualify

as brainwashing particularly when young and influential.

What is it they say " get them while they are young and you have them for

life " ?? Has that ever passed in your thoughts?

Love and Peace God Bless Root A believer

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Hi ! I think you are on a very comfortable and logical path,

spiritually speaking. Religion is government applied to spirituality. Just

my opinion. Some of us do not like being told what to do at any level! Al

rheumatic Re: TEARS OF JOY

>From: " ROBERT M ROOTS " <RU42354@...>

>

>Skip & Denny

>The gentleman's name is Neale Walsch

>G.P.Putman & Sons=Publisher

>Name of Books " Conversations with God *an uncommon dialogue*

>same name 2 and 3 Each approach the ability to talk with God

>on your and Gods terms . After many years of Catholic brainwashing I had

>turned the switch off on God. Heard that before?

>Quite by whim in a hospital bed I was really down and thought there was a

>possibility I might pass on. As Im just 49 I still have a genetic survival

>instinct . I analyzed my fear as this was not the first time

>death was at my door and each time I never gave a second thought to a God

of

>hell or heaven just took it, and was glad to wake up breathing . Just 3

>months ago I was in the E.R. they gave me a

>med via shot and in 3 min. I knew I was dying . Sure enough

>I was. I was pulled out of the white light to 5 ICU folks

>and piles of " save em " paraphernalia. Never to give a thought to God.

>Walch gave me intellectual license to search , to drop my pride or wall ,

>whatever hold us from a great comfort that we can tap into any time.

>So Im in bed and tired of being tired and I had brought this book.

>I picked it up again on a whim as no one I know has read it.

>Then my story is " mine " . I cannot influence anyone from here.

>Nor can I say that my beliefs parallel anyone else's.

>But it is a great comfort when Im down and feeling sorry for me.

>I hope you get something out of his book there is something there for

>everyone . The atheist and the preacher alike.

>God Bless you Root

>

>

>

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Group,

It may help to remember the story of the wealthy man on the donkey who

once told what he needed to do to go to heaven, turned in despair and

rode off. No one stopped him - no one tried to stop him. He was free to

make his own choice, which he did - which in the end we all must do. And

hopefully we will learn to graciously accept decisions which, painful

though they may be, are not ours to make, nor ours to force.

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