Re: a little story for you.

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It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted

me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's

easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me

to " relax and take a deep breath. " This would be a good area to

improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a

severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath

to waste on arguing.

>

> this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have

> asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more

of

> the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever

attact

> she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the

> paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to

help

> save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they

being

> suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and

> make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and

that

> only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her

being

> sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained

medical

> paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her

to

> focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing

for

> them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was

also

> taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave

the

> oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made

sure

> she kept my inhailer and the other thing i can always get another.

it

> was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby

> sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it

> serious till last night.

> robi

>

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I never got this original post but OMGosh, the more I'm hearing this the more concerned I'm getting about being out in the heat. We're getting a very nasty thunder storm are under a warning for another 20 minutes, thunder alot of lightening heavy rain and wicked wind! That streak of lightening I saw hit my back yard OMG!!!!!!!! ok, I'm running off of computer battery now LOL. I use to love thunderstorms until all the tornados started coming with them, That one hit in the woods saw it hit, GEESH, Lord, please protect the children and I during this storm.

Terry I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teddy Bear's Early Learning ProgramEstablished August of 1992

From: asthma [mailto:asthma ] On Behalf Of queezlesSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:37 AMTo: asthma Subject: Re: a little story for you.

It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me to "relax and take a deep breath." This would be a good area to improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath to waste on arguing.>> this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more of > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever attact > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the > paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to help > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they being > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and that > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her being > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained medical > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her to > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing for > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was also > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave the > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made sure > she kept my inhailer and the other thing i can always get another. it > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it > serious till last night.> robi>

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Gosh Terry. Where do you live? If you don't mind me asking.

Cheryl Burton ncicheryl@...

Re: a little story for you.

It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me to "relax and take a deep breath." This would be a good area to improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath to waste on arguing.>> this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more of > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever attact > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the

> paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to help > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they being > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and that > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her being > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained medical > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her to > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing for > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was also > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave the > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made sure > she kept my inhailer and the other thing

i can always get another. it > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it > serious till last night.> robi>

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Southern land, The storm last every bit of 30 minutes, the temps went from 93 before the storm hit to right now 70 degrees, they just said to expect another one later this evening, NOO I have to do a 2 hour drive to take my youngest to his band practice, This will be my first time to drive the interstate, usually dh does all the driving, but he put all the info into his thing that tells you how to get to places, can't think of the name of the darn thing, so it's ready. Man I'm going to miss WIPEOUT tonight, that's our favorite show and I have no way of taping it LOL

Terry I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teddy Bear's Early Learning ProgramEstablished August of 1992

From: asthma [mailto:asthma ] On Behalf Of Cheryl BurtonSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:00 PMTo: asthma Subject: Re: Re: a little story for you.

Gosh Terry. Where do you live? If you don't mind me asking.

Cheryl Burton ncicheryl

Re: a little story for you.

It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me to "relax and take a deep breath." This would be a good area to improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath to waste on arguing.>> this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more of > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever attact > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the > paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to help > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they being > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and that > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her being > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained medical > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her to > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing for > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was also > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave the > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made sure > she kept my inhailer and the other thing i can always get another. it > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it > serious till last night.> robi>

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I would simply flip out if someone tried to make me lay flat on my back

during an asthma attack! The thought of it gives me the creeps....the

thought of flipping out, and them tying me down....oh my!!! Then the

flipping out would intensify the attack.... The flipping out would be

due to not being able to breathe..it is a natural instinct to sit up. YIKES!

Cindi

queezles wrote:

>

> It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted

> me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's

> easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me

> to " relax and take a deep breath. " This would be a good area to

> improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a

> severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath

> to waste on arguing.

>

>

> >

> > this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have

> > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more

> of

> > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever

> attact

> > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the

> > paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to

> help

> > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they

> being

> > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and

> > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and

> that

> > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her

> being

> > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained

> medical

> > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her

> to

> > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing

> for

> > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was

> also

> > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave

> the

> > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made

> sure

> > she kept my inhailer and the other thing i can always get another.

> it

> > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby

> > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it

> > serious till last night.

> > robi

> >

>

>

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Should you really be going out driving when there is such a storm going on and another one on its way? You would think they would cancel band practice. The thing is called a gps. Global positioning system. They are really great. Be careful.

Cheryl Burton ncicheryl@...

Re: a little story for you.

It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me to "relax and take a deep breath." This would be a good area to improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath to waste on arguing.>> this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more of > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever attact > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the

> paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to help > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they being > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and that > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her being > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained medical > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her to > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing for > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was also > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave the > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made sure > she kept my inhailer and the other thing

i can always get another. it > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it > serious till last night.> robi>

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I have to agree with you on that, it's a natural instinct when you can't breath to sit up, and relax, hello, if we could we would, they don't get it unless they have asthma, you know what's really weird, you know that plastic smell of a oxygen mask, I am smelling that right now and have no clue why! Very weird.

Terry I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teddy Bear's Early Learning ProgramEstablished August of 1992

From: asthma [mailto:asthma ] On Behalf Of Rodney & CindiSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:13 PMTo: asthma Subject: Re: Re: a little story for you.

I would simply flip out if someone tried to make me lay flat on my back during an asthma attack! The thought of it gives me the creeps....the thought of flipping out, and them tying me down....oh my!!! Then the flipping out would intensify the attack.... The flipping out would be due to not being able to breathe..it is a natural instinct to sit up. YIKES!Cindiqueezles wrote:>> It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted> me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's> easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me> to "relax and take a deep breath." This would be a good area to> improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a> severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath> to waste on arguing.>> > >> > this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have> > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more> of> > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever> attact> > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the> > paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to> help> > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they> being> > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and> > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and> that> > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her> being> > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained> medical> > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her> to> > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing> for> > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was> also> > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave> the> > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made> sure> > she kept my inhailer and the other thing i can always get another.> it> > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby> > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it> > serious till last night.> > robi> >>>

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These weather people don't know anything until it actually happens. I'm smart enough to know when to pull over if a storm get's too bad, YES GPS, Garmin is what he has. LOL.

Terry I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teddy Bear's Early Learning ProgramEstablished August of 1992

From: asthma [mailto:asthma ] On Behalf Of Cheryl BurtonSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:15 PMTo: asthma Subject: Re: Re: a little story for you.

Should you really be going out driving when there is such a storm going on and another one on its way? You would think they would cancel band practice. The thing is called a gps. Global positioning system. They are really great. Be careful.

Cheryl Burton ncicheryl

Re: a little story for you.

It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me to "relax and take a deep breath." This would be a good area to improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath to waste on arguing.>> this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more of > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever attact > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the > paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to help > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they being > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and that > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her being > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained medical > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her to > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing for > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was also > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave the > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made sure > she kept my inhailer and the other thing i can always get another. it > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it > serious till last night.> robi>

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Terry:

That's funny because I live/work in La Plata and when I saw your post I was wondering if you lived in SOMD.

Southern land, The storm last every bit of 30 minutes, the temps went from 93 before the storm hit to right now 70 degrees, they just said to expect another one later this evening, NOO I have to do a 2 hour drive to take my youngest to his band practice, This will be my first time to drive the interstate, usually dh does all the driving, but he put all the info into his thing that tells you how to get to places, can't think of the name of the darn thing, so it's ready. Man I'm going to miss WIPEOUT tonight, that's our favorite show and I have no way of taping it LOL

Terry I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teddy Bear's Early Learning ProgramEstablished August of 1992

From: asthma [mailto:asthma ] On Behalf Of Cheryl Burton

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:00 PMTo: asthma Subject: Re: Re: a little story for you.

Gosh Terry. Where do you live? If you don't mind me asking.

Cheryl Burton

ncicheryl@...

Re: a little story for you.

It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me

to " relax and take a deep breath. " This would be a good area to improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath

to waste on arguing.

>> this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more of > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever

attact > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the > paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to help > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they

being > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and that > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her

being > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained medical > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her to > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing

for > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was also > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave the > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made

sure > she kept my inhailer and the other thing i can always get another. it > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it

> serious till last night.> robi>

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OMG you have GOT to be kidding me!!!!! Well HI then!! We'll have to meet up someday and have lunch on a Saturday or something. WOW I had no idea I'm know anyone on these groups so close to home! I live in the Clements/Avenue area of St. 's County

Terry I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teddy Bear's Early Learning ProgramEstablished August of 1992

From: asthma [mailto:asthma ] On Behalf Of Elaine PollardSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:35 PMTo: asthma Subject: Re: Re: a little story for you.

Terry:

That's funny because I live/work in La Plata and when I saw your post I was wondering if you lived in SOMD.

On 7/22/08, Terry <soccer.momverizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Southern land, The storm last every bit of 30 minutes, the temps went from 93 before the storm hit to right now 70 degrees, they just said to expect another one later this evening, NOO I have to do a 2 hour drive to take my youngest to his band practice, This will be my first time to drive the interstate, usually dh does all the driving, but he put all the info into his thing that tells you how to get to places, can't think of the name of the darn thing, so it's ready. Man I'm going to miss WIPEOUT tonight, that's our favorite show and I have no way of taping it LOL

Terry I know God will not give me anything I can't handle. I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. ~Mother Teddy Bear's Early Learning ProgramEstablished August of 1992

From: asthma [mailto:asthma ] On Behalf Of Cheryl BurtonSent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:00 PMTo: asthma Subject: Re: Re: a little story for you.

Gosh Terry. Where do you live? If you don't mind me asking.

Cheryl Burton ncicheryl

Re: a little story for you.

It's not just firemen: I've run into nurses in hospitals who wanted me to lie on my back during severe asthma attacks. One insisted it's easier to breathe that way (extremely untrue); another told me to "relax and take a deep breath." This would be a good area to improve the training of emergency personnel, since the victim of a severe asthma attack pretty much by definition does not have breath to waste on arguing.>> this past weekend i was at a motorcycle event and since i too have > asthma i took my inhaler and the thing you put it into you get more of > the meds. any way a 40 year old who has asthma had such a sever attact > she was in and out of breathing. it scared me but i gave them the > paoeple who were helping her befor e th paramedics came to use to help > save her it worked they wanted to lay her flat on her back(they being > suposidly trained volunteer firemen) i told them no on her side and > make sure her toung doesnt fall back and stop her breathing . and that > only put her on her back if cpr is needed. my mom trained me her being > sever asthmatic herself. my gosh what are these suposed trained medical > paople being trained on? one girl her best friend tried to get her to > focus on breathing and saying your kids are fine but keep breathing for > them. to get her to focus on staying alive for them. that i was also > taught by my mom. now the paramedics did show up but once they gave the > oxygen she wouldnt go to the hospital. nothing we could do. i made sure > she kept my inhailer and the other thing i can always get another. it > was stressful cause i know that could have been me and now my hubby > sees what can happen should i get that bad. i dont think he took it > serious till last night.> robi>

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, Terry was right in her interpretation of what I said. If someone is in respiratory arrest, which from the sounds of it, this woman was about as close to being as one can get, sitting up or laying down isnt going to make much of a difference at that point. These folks are the ones who need us to breathe for them...and unfortunately we just cant do it sitting up. We cannot maintain a seal on a mask, and its impossible to get the person in the proper position to properly intubate. A missed intubation pumps air into the stomach...which leads to the person ultimately vomiting and then having even more problems..

In people who are still breathing on their own, but somewhat distressed, we do transport in the position of comfort...and as you said, for most trouble breathing patients, that is sitting up. Once they go to the point where we have to take over, then they lay down so we can do an adequate job...and hopefully keep them alive so the docs can do their thing. Sometimes we even manage to get the person stabilized...which is a good thing as we all know.

As for calling a taxi vs an ambulance...personally I wouldnt do it, but then again, Ive never experienced bad EMS as a patient. Maybe where you live it does take a long time for an ambulance to get there...but then again, Im pretty sure a taxi wouldnt be in any hurry either. As a former EMT and current member of the medical community, Id certainly hope that you would call an ambulance b/c even if all the folks on the ambulance do is give you some oxygen to suck down, thats better than nothing.The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now!