Guest guest Posted October 2, 2000 Report Share Posted October 2, 2000 In a message dated 10/2/2000 11:26:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, sugrbearft@... writes: << Joi/, I live in Southern California in the San Bernardino mountains (Big Bear area). I rent a room during the week in San Dimas and work in Pasadena. Currently on medical leave. Are there other CMTrs in Los Angeles, Orange, San Bernardino, or Riverside counties? Doreen >> Greatchen and are in SO CA, Cept is not around the list anymore..Something to do with a female named Ella. jenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2000 Report Share Posted October 2, 2000 Hi Joi here, I grew up in so.Ca Fullerton to be exact. My daughter was born in Anaheim. Moved to Sacramento back in 1990. My daughter now lives in Santa . I use to go the the snow in lBig Bear, always hated the cold! It's so beautiful though. If anyone is looking for a layover/point via driving to say Washington my door is always open to fellow CMTers. Joi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2000 Report Share Posted October 2, 2000 In a message dated 10/2/2000 6:27:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ohpechez@... writes: << If anyone is looking for a layover/point via driving to say Washington my door is always open to fellow CMTers. Joi >> How much room do you have and are you a good cook? I think I'll give up my job of wife and Mother and be a house guest for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Share Posted October 3, 2000 --- jacee17@... wrote: > In a message dated 10/2/2000 11:19:47 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > sugrbearft@... writes: > > << 've been under extreme stress on my job for the > past year and my symptoms > and CMT progression have gotten much work during > the same period. I posted > a > question asking about stress' impact on CMT. It > seems to be a common > experience among CMTrs, >> > I react awful to stress. My CMT goes crazy. > jenny > I'm the same way. If I have a stressful situation, I pay bigtime for days afterward if not weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Share Posted October 3, 2000 Thanks, Joi. If I'm coming by your way, I'll let you know. It would be nice to get together. By the way, it's only cold in the winter in Big Bear. Doreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Share Posted October 3, 2000 > Hi , welcome to our club. My name is Joi, I'm 40 and have one daughter. > Just curious, what state do you live in? I live in California. Looking for > other women in my state with CMT. Thanks for the welcome Joi. Sorry I don't live in your state, I live in Wisconsin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2000 Report Share Posted October 3, 2000 > Welcome to the family ! > > I'm 41, diagnosed at 5 with CMT Type 2, many family members affected. I > have 3 daughters and one has been diagnosed (she is now 10, was diagnosed at > 4). > > This is a great place to share opinion and experience on CMT. > > Cheers, > Ruth Hi Ruth, Thanks for the warm welcome. I look forward to getting to know everyone here and sharing. > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > >From: " Weiss " <brenda_c_w@y...> > >Reply-egroups > ><egroups> > >Subject: [] Introduction > >Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:38:04 -0500 > > > >Hi, I'm . I'm 46 married and have children. I found out about my > >CMT in 1982, but only started having problems 3 years ago. It began with > >my feet bothering me all the time no matter what type of shoes I wore. > >Then I noticed that my left leg was thinner than my right. > > > >To date none of my children are showing any sign of having CMT. Hopefully > >they won't. > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ___ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2000 Report Share Posted November 15, 2000 HI Wilma, Your english is fine. Do you have a neurologist around your area? A Doctor that studies nerves. That would be a good place to take your childs test results.. Sounds like the CMT came from your husbands side of the family. That is why you don't have it. If I understood your email, you said your results were negative. What kind of tests did they do on you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 >>>>>Hello Wilma, welcome to our list. I'm happy you found us. My older family members don't want to talk about CMT. They kept it hid and it was the family secret muscle problems. Not to be talked about. I have a 10 year old son with CMT, type 2. Here are some links to CMT information, Hope these help, ~>Becky M. http://www.cmtint.org/symptoms.htm http://members.medinex.com/members/d/g/o/dgosling/cmt.html http://www.ninds.nih.gov/patients/DISORDER/charcot/charcot.htm http://www.CMT.org.uk/whatis.htm http://www2.mc.duke.edu/depts/medicine/medgen/CMT.html >http://tor-pw1.netcom.ca/~dgosling/cmt/types.html > http://www.oandp.org/jpo/64/64108.htm http://neurology.or.kr/hmsn/index.htm http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_ui ds=8179305 & dopt=Abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list _uids=2133612 & dopt=Abstract >http://www.CMT.org.uk/coping.htm#Lack http://alpha6.curtin.edu.au:80/curtin/dept/physio/podiatry/encyclopedia/ciec le/ http://www.athenadiagnostics.com/site/product_search/test_description_templa te http://www.healthlinkusa.com >>>http://medausa.org/publications/fa-cmt.html >>>http://www.charcot-marie-tooth.org or http://www.cmtint.org >>>http://www.mdausa.org/disease/cmt.html >>http://www.neuroguide.com http://www.mayohealth.org http://www.albany.net/~tjc/charcot.html http://www.archives-pmr.org/abs79_12/v79n12p1560.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 HI , The CMT comes from my husbands family so I didn't have any tests done.The results that were negative where for hip dysplasia done on my daughter.We will see a dr.in the muscular childs centre soon and they work with a university hospital specialised in children according to the muscular disease centre here this is the right place to go. Wilma ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: <jacee17@...> Aan: <egroups> Verzonden: donderdag 16 november 2000 2:59 Onderwerp: Re: [] introduction > HI Wilma, Your english is fine. Do you have a neurologist around your area? A > Doctor that studies nerves. That would be a good place to take your childs > test results.. > Sounds like the CMT came from your husbands side of the family. That is why > you don't have it. If I understood your email, you said your results were > negative. > What kind of tests did they do on you? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 Hi, Joi here. Are you from Sacramento, CA.? I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2000 Report Share Posted December 8, 2000 Hello, My name is and I have been reading some of the posts with considerable interest. I was kind of hoping someone would address what to do on the run, you know, kind of in a fast food way. I have read all the books and agree with Doctors Price and Pottenger as well as Sally Fallon. Some of us however, and maybe all of us on occasion, do not have the opportunity to purchase some of the ingredients (raw milk, raw butter etc.) or even the time to prepare some of the recipes. I am so busy lately that it has taken me a while to even write this letter. I can't find raw milk so I have been using a trick I learned from Dr. Wm. . I buy organic fat free milk from trader joe,s and add their heavy cream (which is not ultra pastuerized). I know it's a compromise but it's better than homogonized. The theory is that since homogonization is done to the milk FAT and there is no fat in fat free milk, then it's the next best thing to add the heavy cream to it . I used to be able to buy Anchor butter but have since been informed that the market will no longer be able to carry it due to a dispute between New Zealand and the U.S. over the lables on the butter. So now I use trader joe's butter also, since it is certified to be hormone free. I have no idea if the x-factor is present, although I doubt it. Other than that, when faced with time resrictions, I usually grab some whole milk cheese, if I can find some wherever I may happen to be, a bag of nuts or a hamburger without the bun.At home I will make either steak, pork chops, tuna fish, ham and eggs (or bacon), and maybe a quick salad. The only carbs I eat are salad greens, occasional vegetables, a once in a blue moon piece of fruit and sprouted bread (with butter) I know that this is not following the doctrine 100% and I hope I'm not compromising my health because of my busy schedule. I would appreciate any opinions and suggestions. What do all of you do when really busy and in need of some " quick " nourishment? Thank you in advance, lisa@... wrote: > Hi all, > > I just came across this list through the Radiant Life catalog. > My husband Mike and I had been vegetarians/vegans/raw foodists for ten > years. Then when my first son Elijah was ready to start solid foods > around 6 months old I read Weston A. Price's book and joined the > Price-Pottenger Foundation. I bought Nourishing Traditions and well > we've been eating this way now for nearly 3 years. We are doing very > well as are both of our boys (Eli 1/98, Avery 2/00). > > We live in the Fresno area and are starting a local chapter of the > Weston A. Price Foundation. If you live in this area to and would > like to get together for potlucks and informational/support meetings > contact me at lisa@.... > > Well, I look forward to participating in the discussion. > > Biskup > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 It seems very hard and a little overwhelming at first. We all of the issue of " time " that we are dealing with. I dry my nuts 16 cups at a time. Make two quarts of yogurt at a shot. Once you get a system figured out it isnt as bad as it seems. We travel a lot so I do all of my culturing one day a week and generally thats late at night once the kids are in bed. Get a few staples going then theres lot of time to play in between time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 There are lots of places you can mail order items that you cant get locally. Trader Joes caries three two raw milk cheeses and probably more if you look carefully. They have a swiss and GRuyere available on a regular basis. Second, Trader Joes has organic almonds, pumpkin seeds and pine nuts. Follow the recipes for these 16 cups at a time and dry them in a food dehydrator with a timer. You will have plenty of nuts for a quick snack on the run for a long time. Cut up raw vegies are another good quick snack. Buy your meat in quantity and freeze it. It doesn{t take long to pull a package of meat out of the freezer in the morning and cook it in the evening. Make enough you can eat it cold the next day for lunch with some raw milk cheese, nuts and cut up vegies. Time isn{t the issue, organizing your time and planning ahead is. For instance, if you forget to pull the meat out of the freezer and you are choosing not to use a microwave you will be getting very creative at p! reparing dinner! A word of warn ing regarding nonfat milk. I found some nonfat milks add dry milk to their product to thicken it so I'm not sure buying the nonfat and adding cream to it is the answer. Take some time to explore your sources. Subscribe to the Wise Traditions newsletter as there are lots of mail order sources in there. I just ordered some of the raw honey from the ad in Wise Traditions and IT IS FABULOUS!!! There was a recipe included with the honey for some no bake cookies that are a great on the run snack and literally take minutes to make. Double the batch and once again you{re set for sometime. The recipe called for nuts (I used crispy almonds, dried coconut, carob (I used cocoa), and raw honey. Roll them in balls and freeze them. They are fabulous!!! I take the nourishing traditions book upstairs to bed with me every night. It's great evening reading. And you get up in the morning excited to try something new. Give yourself time to get hooked, you'll be amazed how much time you! start finding in your schedule once its something you're totally committed to. As you're waiting in line at the bank pull out your copy of wise traditions, use a cordless phone so you can culture products while you talk, if you have kids help them to master one product and put them in charge of it...my 10 year is taking on the kefir production. My 9 year old is learning to cut up vegies for fermenting. Sit back and catch your breath and start one thing at a time. Its not as difficult as it seems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 One more thing, if you don{t have a freezer, buy one. Buying your meat in bulk, then freezing things like cheese balls (spread them on celery for a quick snack), nuts, snacks, etc. I get pasture fed raw goat milk when in season (May thru September) and freeze it. I also make two crock pots of stock and freeze it in quart jars, make a huge batch of sausage and freeze it for breakfasts. The freezer will save you time in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Hi , I just came across all of the price, pottenger, et al., info since 11/1/00. But I am soaking it up and changing over as fast as I can. I can empathize with your plight of being busy... although my schedule is not at this time, it has been, and worse, I am not a cook by habit anyway. One thing I might suggest is drying foods. It is one of the things I will be doing with some of the pasture-fed beef I have ordered. You can look in Dr.Price's Wise Traditions quarterly magazine for sources for pasture-fed meat from beef to pork. You may want to keep some on- hand as I believe Dr,Price's contention is that we cannot get proper nutrients from regular store bought beef. Also, as a non-cook (to date), I have spent a day or two only every few weeks cooking.. and then freeze. This will be a little harder with SAlly's recipes as they almost all need prior preparation. I am counting on the positive reinforcement of better health to cheer me on. And this list. My family thinks I am nuts, so by having this list I am not alone in my journey... I don't know what keeps you busy, but you may want to consider that if you don't get a handle on your health now it will be much more difficult as you get older. I know that by experience. When one is tired and affected with malaise one questions what is really important. That said, you seem to have compromised well to fit your abilities. I'm impressed. Can't say I've done any of it yet. Just finished reading Sally's book for the 4th time as I am waiting to collect the right food to get started. I will certainly be posting the " results " here. Hope to read everyone's continued application. Cheers, anne > > > Hi all, > > > > I just came across this list through the Radiant Life catalog. > > My husband Mike and I had been vegetarians/vegans/raw foodists for ten > > years. Then when my first son Elijah was ready to start solid foods > > around 6 months old I read Weston A. Price's book and joined the > > Price-Pottenger Foundation. I bought Nourishing Traditions and well > > we've been eating this way now for nearly 3 years. We are doing very > > well as are both of our boys (Eli 1/98, Avery 2/00). > > > > We live in the Fresno area and are starting a local chapter of the > > Weston A. Price Foundation. If you live in this area to and would > > like to get together for potlucks and informational/support meetings > > contact me at lisa@m... > > > > Well, I look forward to participating in the discussion. > > > > Biskup > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2000 Report Share Posted December 9, 2000 Thank you all for your input, Trader Joe's reg. nonfat milk DOES have instant or evaporated milk added to it, but their ORGANIC nonfat milk does not.That's the kind I mix with the heavy cream.I assume all of the nut butters (even the organic ones) are a no-no since we have no idea if they were soaked prior to being ground. Thanks again, P.S. I guess we have all become hunter gatherers once again and the markets have become our hunting grounds. History truly does repeat itself. BrenRuble@... wrote: > There are lots of places you can mail order items that you cant get locally. Trader Joes caries three two raw milk cheeses and probably more if you look carefully. They have a swiss and GRuyere available on a regular basis. Second, Trader Joes has organic almonds, pumpkin seeds and pine nuts. Follow the recipes for these 16 cups at a time and dry them in a food dehydrator with a timer. You will have plenty of nuts for a quick snack on the run for a long time. Cut up raw vegies are another good quick snack. Buy your meat in quantity and freeze it. It doesn{t take long to pull a package of meat out of the freezer in the morning and cook it in the evening. Make enough you can eat it cold the next day for lunch with some raw milk cheese, nuts and cut up vegies. Time isn{t the issue, organizing your time and planning ahead is. For instance, if you forget to pull the meat out of the freezer and you are choosing not to use a microwave you will be getting very creative at p! > reparing dinner! A word of warn > ing regarding nonfat milk. I found some nonfat milks add dry milk to their product to thicken it so I'm not sure buying the nonfat and adding cream to it is the answer. Take some time to explore your sources. Subscribe to the Wise Traditions newsletter as there are lots of mail order sources in there. I just ordered some of the raw honey from the ad in Wise Traditions and IT IS FABULOUS!!! There was a recipe included with the honey for some no bake cookies that are a great on the run snack and literally take minutes to make. Double the batch and once again you{re set for sometime. The recipe called for nuts (I used crispy almonds, dried coconut, carob (I used cocoa), and raw honey. Roll them in balls and freeze them. They are fabulous!!! I take the nourishing traditions book upstairs to bed with me every night. It's great evening reading. And you get up in the morning excited to try something new. Give yourself time to get hooked, you'll be amazed how much time you! > start finding in your schedule > once its something you're totally committed to. As you're waiting in line at the bank pull out your copy of wise traditions, use a cordless phone so you can culture products while you talk, if you have kids help them to master one product and put them in charge of it...my 10 year is taking on the kefir production. My 9 year old is learning to cut up vegies for fermenting. Sit back and catch your breath and start one thing at a time. Its not as difficult as it seems! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2000 Report Share Posted December 10, 2000 > One more thing, if you don{t have a freezer, buy one. That's the first thing I did..... got a great buy at a resell place. a Buying your meat in bulk, then freezing things like cheese balls (spread them on celery for a quick snack), nuts, snacks, etc. I get pasture fed raw goat milk when in season (May thru September) and freeze it. I also make two crock pots of stock and freeze it in quart jars, make a huge batch of sausage and freeze it for breakfasts. The freezer will save you time in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 A couple people have posted messages on the message board regarding their experiences. It may be worth going back and reading some of the older postings in search of testimonials. I posted one on 2/24 that was a reply to How much? It takes a little while to get this all figured out. I've been doing it for almost a year and still have a long ways to go. If you could just get started with a few of the basics I think it will make it a lot easier. Start by making yogurt (you will use the whey for all your fermented vegies and porridge - the yogurt cheese is fabulous with some vanilla, honey and cinnamon in it), also get started with kefir (really easy if you're chain culturing it) - you can order the grains from GEM cultures listed under Sources in the back of the book. You can use kefir for soaking all your grains in plus you can drink it. We like it with a banana and some vanilla mixed up in a blender. Then start off with creme fraiche. It's so easy to make. I put it in soups, whip it and make whipped cream, eat it with fruit, add it to oatmeal, etc.Then get some crispy nuts going as well as some stock (my favorite is lamb but man does it ever stink up the house!!! I make two crock pots at a time then freeze it), and some mayo. With those few items you will have a few of the basics to get started with. You can order your breads from companies under sources in the back of the book. I started off ordering breads as I felt I had my hands full just mastering the dairy culturing and doing away with the microwave. Now I order six loaves at a time and freeze them. Then I made bread each week. If I have a flop, which happens too often still, I have loaves in the freezer waiting to take the flops place. When I have a flop I grind up the bread and make bread crumbs that week instead of bread. Here are some great catalogs/websites that will help: Radiant Life www.4radiantlife.com Gold Mine www.goldminenaturalfood.com New England Cheesemaking Supply Co. www.cheesemaking.com Grain & Salt Society www.celtic-seasalt.com Azure Standard www.azurefarm.com Pampered Chef www.pamperedchef.com Chef's www.chefcatalog.com SurLaTable www.surlatable.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Hello Nice to have you on board. I'm pretty new to this also. So I'll be asking more questions, not giving too many answers. But we all are learning new things daily. There are many people here who are very helpful. Hope you enjoy the group as much as I do. Kareemah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 , Thanks for the thorough response, it provides some great leads and encouragement. I'm going over the archives to this list, and will look for other responses as you recommend. Thanks again, Brandt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Hi - Welcome to the group. There's a couple other books you might want to take a look at as well. I use them in combination with the Nourishing Traditions book. They are called the Schwarzbein Principle by Schwarzbein and the Schwarzbein Principle cookbook. I've tried numerous recipes in the cookbook and everyone so far is excellent. You will definitely get your money's worth. I use the balance principles of the Schwarzbein principle in combination with the food prep concepts of nourishing traditions. For instance, if a recipe in the SPC calls for cream, I use creme fraiche instead (more good bugs) and I add it after I remove the dish from the heat so I don't kill the bugs I worked so hard to raise! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 > Hi all, > > My name is , and I'm almost 40, a full time stay-at-home dad of a five > year old daughter, , and married to a wonderful full-time working > wife, Anne. I won't mention her age, but she's younger then I am. :-) We > all live in St. sburg, FL. Until a year ago we were the champions of > the SAD diet, but last Easter, my wife decided to go on the Atkins Diet > after having gone from a size 8 to a size 14 in about two years. Myself, > weighing 300 pounds, and having a family history of heart problems, > followed her example two weeks later after having seen my doctor for a > check up. At that time, I spent a whole day cleaning out the pantry, and > must have come up with at least 50 lbs of what I then considered > unacceptable food. I still find that food unacceptable, but the list has > grown longer. > > Sometime during the summer on one of the Lo-carb diet lists, I ran across a > post that was either by Sally, or it was a repost of an article written by > her about grass fed beef. The web page recommended in the post led me to a > local source, sometimes, for grass fed beef. The source's name is Dennis, > and he is the local chapter of the WPF. I got some fair grass fed beef > from him, but his eggs and butter were fantastic. In November he had a > whole cow available for me, but at the time I said " no " . OK, it was a dumb > move, and I've been regretting it since. They are butchering bulls. Call Dennis. I found the beef to be absolutely fantastic... but the chickens were bland. I'm making chicken salad with them. I'm told the eggs are great, but cannot taste the difference myself. However, that doesn't mean anything. The butter is excellent. We both lucked out on that one. Anne > In early January he gave me a two > set ACRES tape by Sally, and I was hooked. I ordered both Nourishing > Traditions, and some Celtic Sea Salt before I was even through with the > tapes, and as soon as I finished them, I gave them to my wife to listen to. > She listened them, and we were both in total agreement, this was our new > " diet " . We still tend to do it " lo-carb " eating oatmeal only once ever two > or three weeks, and no other grain products, no corn, or carrots, and no > other " root " vegetables either, and mostly no fruit, except for a few > berries once in a while. However I cleaned about another 50 or so pounds > of newly unacceptable food out of the pantry this time. > > So now in my house, you find, whole foods. There are still a few cans in > the pantry though. I've yet to find a substitute for either canned or > jarred anchovies, and I've found a local store that sometimes has smoked > cod livers, in cod liver oil, in cans. I can't do without the anchovies, > because I've not found a salad dressing that I like near as well as Caesar. > Has anybody found a source for non-canned anchovies? > > Today, I also found a source for some Mullet Roe, and was wondering if > anybody had any recipes for roe other then the 3 or 4 in the Book? > > I also found a source for raw Goat Milk today, they are unfortunately fed > Goat Chow, and not grass fed, but it's another step up from the > pasteurized-homogonized-organic stuff from the health food stores. > > Anyway, since listening to the ACRES tapes, I've ordered 6 more Sally tapes > from some farm conference in Iowa last year, along with a video tape on > Nourishing Traditions. I just can't seem to get enough. > > Wittine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2001 Report Share Posted August 15, 2001 Hi Hollie - There's a group of us in the Lake Oswego area that are very active at finding great quality meat, etc. If you want additional info e-mail me privately. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2001 Report Share Posted September 27, 2001 HELP!!! I'm trying to raise chickens with no soy. First of all, I've never raised chickens at anytime previously so everything I do is a steep learning curve!!! I ordered some baby chicks and started feeding them a mix of equal parts of corn, barley, oats and half the amount of sunflower seeds. I sprinkled a little nutritional yeast and kelp on top with some grit. I was grinding the grains up into little chunks which didn't seem to do the trick then switched to using the flour grinder and making flour which didn't go over real big. They had no interest in the grains at all so I supplemented with raw liver, worms and scrambled eggs cooked in butter. I added a drop of cod liver oil to their water along with a mineral supplement and a drop of flax seed oil on their scrambled eggs. In addition I gave them a small serving of fil mjolk each day. My chicks deteriorated daily until it got to the point they couldn't walk. I treated them homeopathically, got them back on their feet but they just weren't their chipper selves. They had no interest in eating unless it was served out of my hand (they are friendly little cheeps!). And they consumed huge quantities of the pine shavings they were on. Finally, I purchased some commercial feed to see if it was what I was feeding them and they are starting to look and act a lot better. In addition, I pulled them off the pine shavings and put them on some grass clipping. Unfortunately I won't have grass clippings much longer with the winter months approaching. So my question is...have you raised your chickens from the chick stage and if so what did you feed them? And to think I really wanted goats but settled for chickens. UGH!!! What in the world was I thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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