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melatonin and valerian root are two that I turn to. How is your sleep

hygiene? That can make a difference as well. You can also use scented

sprays like lavender and rosemary. Another option is having a sleep test

done to find exactly where your sleep issues are. Good luck!

Rita

On 12 January 2012 11:03, godsgivengrace59 wrote:

> Help! I am so sleep deprived its not even funny.

> My dr.refuses to give me anything to sleep? I do not understand why.

> I take Klonopin 1mg 3 times a day,and a beta blocker~ Propanolol 10 mgs

> twice a day, that is it.

> He said that any and all sleep meds interfere with the meds I take.

> He used to give me flexeril to sleep,but now says there is a huge

> contraindication with that, and klonopin. I have hardly slept since

> Christmas!

> I was told that fibro causes " racing thoughts " Has anyone heard of this...

> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> " Weary In Washington State "

>

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If it is racing thoughts that are keeping you from going to sleep, I have been

taking 1/2 of a 5 mg Xanax (5 mg is the lowest dose available) and it has worked

for me for several years.

Good luck!

Margie

>

> Help! I am so sleep deprived its not even funny.

> My dr.refuses to give me anything to sleep? I do not understand why.

> I take Klonopin 1mg 3 times a day,and a beta blocker~ Propanolol 10 mgs twice

a day, that is it.

> He said that any and all sleep meds interfere with the meds I take.

> He used to give me flexeril to sleep,but now says there is a huge

contraindication with that, and klonopin. I have hardly slept since Christmas!

> I was told that fibro causes " racing thoughts " Has anyone heard of this...

> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> " Weary In Washington State "

>

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Sleep..the missing factor. why can't anyone understand that the body can't heal

without sleep. why are the dr.'s so caught up in the current 'antidepreesant'

and brain drug stuff that the simply won't give us what we need!! I spent 15

years going round and round with my PCPCP. I kept telling her that the only drug

that worked was restoril, given to me by my diagnosing dr who stopped

practicing. I did all the tricyclics, epilesy drugs and an enless supply of anti

depressants. NOTHING worked except restoril. It had been almost 20 years of

generally very light, very broken or wide awake sleep. Of course I stayed sick.

She (my PCP) finally alloed me to use the restoril. I feel like a new person. So

frustrating that the dr's are so caught up in the fad of the day to really do

what is necessary to help, especially when it works.

To give you some suggestion outside of the medical field. I was able to achieve

2 hours of sleep at a time with a OTC cocktail of 2 good grade valerian root

capsules 2 benadryls and 2 tylenols generic. It seems like alot of drugs, but I

was desperate and it worked. Every 2 hours, like clockwork, I would retake it.

>

> Help! I am so sleep deprived its not even funny.

> My dr.refuses to give me anything to sleep? I do not understand why.

> I take Klonopin 1mg 3 times a day,and a beta blocker~ Propanolol 10 mgs twice

a day, that is it.

> He said that any and all sleep meds interfere with the meds I take.

> He used to give me flexeril to sleep,but now says there is a huge

contraindication with that, and klonopin. I have hardly slept since Christmas!

> I was told that fibro causes " racing thoughts " Has anyone heard of this...

> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> " Weary In Washington State "

>

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my  xanax is  0.25mg tabs.  not familiar with 5 mg xanax tabs??

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If it is racing thoughts that are keeping you from going to sleep, I have been

taking 1/2 of a 5 mg Xanax (5 mg is the lowest dose available) and it has worked

for me for several years.

Good luck!

Margie

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For those of you who are open minded enough to consider Complementary

Medicine solutions, there are a number of Herbal Teas of various

mixtures of herbs to work with. There are tinctures formulated to

help with sleep.

I have worked with herbs all my life and formulated my own 'Sleep

Tea'. Herbs from calming Chamomile to Valerian are available. Hops,

Hibiscus Flowers and others. If you don't know an herbalist, don't

care to drink a prepared tea, or take a tincture, you can try

suggestions such as a pillow filled with Hops flowers and other

variations. Just a little research will give many options.

Some herbs can be quite strong and some interact with Allopathic

Drugs. Always check with your doctor, for what that's worth.

I was using an over the counter preparation that really helped until

I read that the Melatonin in it was contraindicated for people with

Autoimmune diseases. Haven't had a good night's sleep since! Tried a

couple of drugs my doctor suggested. They knocked me out for a

night's sleep alright, then I felt like a zombie the next day, or was

so high that I couldn't drive! No thanks!

Peace and Love,

Byron

At 04:12 PM 1/13/2012 +0000, " myoldmill " wrote:

>To give you some suggestion outside of the medical field. I was able

>to achieve 2 hours of sleep at a time with a OTC cocktail of 2 good

>grade valerian root capsules 2 benadryls and 2 tylenols generic. It

>seems like alot of drugs, but I was desperate and it worked. Every 2

>hours, like clockwork, I would retake it.

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I would think racing thoughts if I was wide awake when my mind is supposed to be

sleeping. I've been reading about ADD and CFIDS. Maybe there is a connection.

>

> Help! I am so sleep deprived its not even funny.

> My dr.refuses to give me anything to sleep? I do not understand why.

> I take Klonopin 1mg 3 times a day,and a beta blocker~ Propanolol 10 mgs twice

a day, that is it.

> He said that any and all sleep meds interfere with the meds I take.

> He used to give me flexeril to sleep,but now says there is a huge

contraindication with that, and klonopin. I have hardly slept since Christmas!

> I was told that fibro causes " racing thoughts " Has anyone heard of this...

> any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> " Weary In Washington State "

>

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amazing the little tidbits we pick up by reading these posts!! Always wondered

why Melatonin affected me so badly. Stupid doctor actually thought I was making

it up!!

> >To give you some suggestion outside of the medical field. I was able

> >to achieve 2 hours of sleep at a time with a OTC cocktail of 2 good

> >grade valerian root capsules 2 benadryls and 2 tylenols generic. It

> >seems like alot of drugs, but I was desperate and it worked. Every 2

> >hours, like clockwork, I would retake it.

>

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Yes, the key is said to be the " low " dosage of these meds, not the 'regular'

dosage for other purposes. Low dosages are good for sleep, and are supposed to

be especially good at not allowing you to wake up too early and unable to go

back to sleep. Racing thoughts are a big problem for a lot of people and

definitely do make it challenging to get to sleep. During the day it seems so

much easier to put unpleasant things out of one's thoughts and be distracted by

other 'stuff', but at night, one is a captive audience to the thoughts because

there is no other distraction.

JMO and experience, of course. What I've found works best for me is to not

struggle 'against' the racing thoughts. Acknowledge and validate them, then my

mind usually feels like it's gotten some of the support it needs. The highest

amount of Doxepin I ever take for sleep, when I'm especially stressed or

over-stimulated, is 20 mg, the usual is 5 mg.

Doreen

From: Margaret

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:55 AM

To: CFAlliance

Subject: Re: Sleep

If it is racing thoughts that are keeping you from going to sleep, I have been

taking 1/2 of a 5 mg Xanax (5 mg is the lowest dose available) and it has worked

for me for several years.

Good luck!

Margie

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I've hoped in the past to be able to switch over to herbs from a med, but so

many of these herbal sleep aids are diuretic, and keep waking me up to go to the

bathroom, which I do not need. I don't retain water and am usually

'under'weight, so have to be very careful about that. At least the Doxepin I

take does not have this effect, although I understand there is no really

completely 'safe' drug out there.

Doreen

From: Byron

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:48 AM

To: CFAlliance

Subject: Re: Re: Sleep

For those of you who are open minded enough to consider Complementary

Medicine solutions, there are a number of Herbal Teas of various

mixtures of herbs to work with. There are tinctures formulated to

help with sleep.

I have worked with herbs all my life and formulated my own 'Sleep

Tea'. Herbs from calming Chamomile to Valerian are available. Hops,

Hibiscus Flowers and others. If you don't know an herbalist, don't

care to drink a prepared tea, or take a tincture, you can try

suggestions such as a pillow filled with Hops flowers and other

variations. Just a little research will give many options.

Some herbs can be quite strong and some interact with Allopathic

Drugs. Always check with your doctor, for what that's worth.

I was using an over the counter preparation that really helped until

I read that the Melatonin in it was contraindicated for people with

Autoimmune diseases. Haven't had a good night's sleep since! Tried a

couple of drugs my doctor suggested. They knocked me out for a

night's sleep alright, then I felt like a zombie the next day, or was

so high that I couldn't drive! No thanks!

Peace and Love,

Byron

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