Re: a question please on cruciate ligament

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my knee was deteriorating for 6 months but after putting dmso and cs (msp) once, I got almost 50% improvement.

If you dont try that and jump to surgery you may be spending a lot for not much. on youtube a guy swears by spradox

dmso +herbs for pain muscle tendon

a question please on cruciate ligament

My daughter's dog tore his cruciate ligament on his right rear leg/knee, and I was wondering if DMSO and CS would help with the pain? Would it help with the tear or is surgery the only alternative.

Thanks for any help you can afford me at this time.

Bernadette

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Someone on another list just had a dog with a luxating patella, which is a kind of ligament problem. I asked on the herb list if they knew of anything. Here are the answers I got, so maybe there will some help here for your dog.

Check swanies company (dreihundenacht: dhn-dreihundenacht.com and have them get the ‘gelenkflex’, (http://www.barfshop.de/index.php?cat=c10_fuer-Gelenke---Knochen.HTML) that is a combination of all the goody ingredients, not only for pain but also for strengthening. She is our ‘doggie’ specialist. I’m sure if she is hailed directly she will respond and able to recommend far better which treatment would be the most beneficial. The website is in German, but remember she is American so communication is no problem.

For the ligaments you might try a supplement with chondroitin, glucosamin and MSM.

MSM will also help with the pain.

Herbs: 's seal, rose hips (ground shell and kernel), and perhaps some willow bark or meadowsweet for the pain and inflamation. Devil's claw will also help inflammation.

Also, add vitamin C - high dose, short term - vitamin K1 - Vitamin E and some enzymes (mixed enzymes, low dose) for a while (1-3 months)

Collagen hydrolysate can help prevent cartilage breakdown, so it makes sense to feed that as well.

Other than that, the dog should be kept lean, excercised moderately to keep up muscle tone, and switched to a fresh food diet. The impact of the diet is very high, so this would actually be the first thing to do, as well as losing weight.

Yes this is a huge hereditary problem with many small breed dogs which is exacerbated by obestiy and poor diet, I.e. Processed pet food.

It can really only be corrected through surgery, but I've been able to help many dogs get well enough to avoid surgury with the above mentioned supplements and especially the diet. DO NOT feed grains - or at least very little and gluten free!

BTW the URL you mentioned is not mine, rather someone's who stole my name and is trying to copy my products.

My HP is www.drei-hunde-nacht.de and the shop is www.dhn-shop.de or www.barfshop.de

Drei Hunde Nacht is my kennel name and the name of my publishing company and it means Three Dog Night.

Swanie

Look into s seal for ligaments/tendons, maybe use as a DMSO topical tincture.

In horses with this condition, I often used a counterirritant over the patella to good affect.

As a long time dog owner, as well as having had the joy of sharing my

Life with a long coat Chihuahua for almost 20 years I would strongly

Suggest that you feed BARF to this dog. That alone will help the leg,

Then you can add the herbal supplements to it.

Samala,

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My daughter's dog tore his cruciate ligament on his right rear leg/knee, and I was wondering if DMSO and CS would help with the pain? Would it help with the tear or is surgery the only alternative.

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I have an elderly dog with arthritis and I use a roll on DMSO on his hips occasionally, when he seems uncomfortable. Not the only thing I use though. The dog has not the least objection to the roll on on his hip joints, so I assume it feels good. I know DMSO takes the itch out of a mosquito bite and it is an anti inflamitory so would help to relieve pain in this condition but I doubt a cure. Margaret Park

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About 6 weeks ago our little mini-dachsie, " Cupcake " somehow severely

hurt/twisted or something, her neck area spinal area. The vet could

tell as she would wobble sometimes in hind quarters falling to one

side in pain, and sometimes to the opposite front quarters. She was

pitiful .. so pitiful we actually thought, and cried thinking we might

have to put her down as was no-way we could afford the projected

possible surgery for which she'de have had to go to Iowa University I

guess. So we decided to go with doing all we could to alleviate pain

and give her time. I used DMSO regularly for her and the vet gave her

steroids and for a bit some antibiotic. She was in terrible shape for

at least 2 weeks but about 3rd week started coming around. Today I

can report we have our normal, spunky, sassy speedy " Cupcake " back,

challenging us daily to engage in tug-a-wars, zipping around her

companion dachsie on the way to the door, to be sure she's first, and

leaping off the sofa end to greet anyone or engage in play. Actually,

I think it was some of those antics that may have gotten her in

trouble while we were gone one day. But, we felt it would be cruel to

confine her to a kennel to keep her inactive so we let her heal with

prayer and TLC. WHEW!! But yes, I believe the DMSO had a role to play

as it does with my husband & I with almost erasing our arthritis, etc.

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> My daughter's dog tore his cruciate ligament on his right rear

leg/knee, and I was wondering if DMSO and CS would help with the pain?

Would it help with the tear or is surgery the only alternative.

>

> Thanks for any help you can afford me at this time.

>

> Bernadette

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A couple of us here in Oz have had good results using DMSO & Thuja oil

For joint deterioration I had virtual cure with CMO

Jane

a question please on cruciate ligament

My daughter's dog tore his cruciate ligament on his right rear leg/knee, and I was wondering if DMSO and CS would help with the pain? Would it help with the tear or is surgery the only alternative.

Thanks for any help you can afford me at this time.

Bernadette

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Thank you to "nadonm" and "Gaiacita" for the information. I will try to alleviate some of the pain by placing CS and DMSO on the knee. We are also giving the dog Rimadlyl. With a complete tear I don't know if it will heal properly without surgery. The vet said when the cruciate is just stretched the animal can still walk on it, however, when it tears they can't put the leg down at all. That seems to be the case. Surgery is very expensive so I will continue to try to help with the info garnered. Thanks.

Bernadette

a question please on cruciate ligament

My daughter's dog tore his cruciate ligament on his right rear leg/knee, and I was wondering if DMSO and CS would help with the pain? Would it help with the tear or is surgery the only alternative.

Thanks for any help you can afford me at this time.

Bernadette

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Are you talking about healing for dog? Or Human?

If human... I have an question..the question is what

and cs (msp). I know what dmso is. But I am not familiar

with cs (msp) and all. Will it help Artritis, and Nerve pains

By the way do anyone know anything to help nerve pains.

MLC

ORE

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> Thank you to " nadonm " and " Gaiacita " for the information. I will

try to alleviate some of the pain by placing CS and DMSO on the

knee. We are also giving the dog Rimadlyl. With a complete tear I

don't know if it will heal properly without surgery. The vet said

when the cruciate is just stretched the animal can still walk on it,

however, when it tears they can't put the leg down at all. That

seems to be the case. Surgery is very expensive so I will continue

to try to help with the info garnered. Thanks.

>

> Bernadette

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> a question please on cruciate ligament

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> My daughter's dog tore his cruciate ligament on his right rear

leg/knee, and I was wondering if DMSO and CS would help with the

pain? Would it help with the tear or is surgery the only alternative.

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> Thanks for any help you can afford me at this time.

>

> Bernadette

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Well, so long as the leg doesn't continue to give pain and just shortens so they can't walk on it, I would withhold on the surgery. My dog was hit by a car when she was 6 months old and had to have her right back leg taken off at the hip. It took her a few weeks to get use to using three legs, but I tell you--it never slowed her down a bit! She couldn't jump the fence anymore, but she'd hook that back leg into one of the squares and crawl over the fence! I mentioned to the vet that she got around perfectly and he told me that sometimes they seem to run even faster as they are not slowed down by that fourth leg. Lol Truly--if the dog isn't in pain, I wouldn't worry about not being able to use the leg for walking.

Even when they get older, it's not too bad for them. My girl was around 45 pounds. She passed away at 15 from cancer, but she could still get around great. Sometimes if she was tired it was a bit harder for her to get up, but other than that, she never missed that back leg.

Samala,

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With a complete tear I don't know if it will heal properly without surgery. The vet said when the cruciate is just stretched the animal can still walk on it, however, when it tears they can't put the leg down at all. That seems to be the case. Surgery is very expensive so I will continue to try to help with the info garnered. Thanks.

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My first dog use to have hip displaysia (sp) and the vet use to sell me DMSO for him. It really helped him get around without pain. And DMSO, at that time, wasn't allowed to be sold in stores. You could only get it through the vet, so I kept getting the DMSO even after the dog got over his problem.

Samala,

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I have an elderly dog with arthritis and I use a roll on DMSO on his hips occasionally, when he seems uncomfortable. Not the only thing I use though. The dog has not the least objection to the roll on on his hip joints, so I assume it feels good.

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Mandy: I was talking about healing for an animal. CS is collodial silver. If you would like to email direct we can discuss it. email address is bernadette@....

Thanks everyone for all your helpful advice.

B.

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