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Hi ... Just my 2 cents worth here. One has to be very careful with

plastics of anykind and DMSO because it can chemically react. I

originally thought plastic must be " ok " because it comes in a plastic

bottle. THEN .. when I first started mixing some of my witches brews,

mixing DMSO with other substances, (Aloe, or essential oils, or water

for dilution, etc. etc.) I found out that it COULD melt the plastic

container in some places!! I later read that one should only transfer

to plastic AFTER mixing in glass as it is the chemical reaction that

does it. I prefer now to store it all in glass as well, (although not

disturbing the original containers it comes in). One can feel the

heat of any " mix " with it ... e.g., try mixing a tiny bit of DMSO with

another substance in the palm of your hand ... and it has heat

transfer with one's skin anyway!

Youth serum: Anyone besides me notice the " tightening " effect on

one's sagging jowls, puffy eyes, etc?? Great for a more youthful look

BUT needs dilution with aloe or some such to also keep it from drying

out too much.

Joyce

> >

> >

> > Greetings from a new member in South Carolina. I joined because I'd

> > been intending to for some time and I have some topics for you

already.

> >

> > My hands and arms are feeling stressed and weak. I want to soak them

> > in DMSO -- up to the elbow or farther -- but am wondering what kind

> > of container might exist for that purpose. Anybody done a study (or

> > happen to know) what materials won't react to it? PVC maybe -- joined

> > with what adhesive?

> >

> > I had assumed that most any kind of plastic would be OK, but

> > something really strange happened. I tried filling the clear plastic

> > top of a hand dicing gadget about the size of a long shoe. The

> > plastic started immediately (if very slowly) " frosting " up. Hours or

> > days later the thing looked exactly as if somebody had put that

> > amount of water in it and put it on the ground at the North Pole. It

> > was heavily " frosted " (not only cosmetically) and the DMSO got cloudy

> > and grew a permanent surface on most of the top, just like partly

> > frozen water. Temperature has nothing to do with it -- it's

> > permanent. Fortunately I'd only soaked my hand about 30 seconds

> > before realizing the thing meant business. I poured the remaining

> > liquid on the ground but still have the thing.

> >

> > Thank you!

> >

> >

>

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Garnet -

your referring to molecular weight is important.

I would keep off any plastics from DMSO when applied to the skin.

It could even transport e.g. plasticizers under the skin.

This could even happen through soaked cotton. Molecules travel to the

warmer place.

The cotton will take some DMSO which I want under my skin.

Why not simply apply and let it soak in.

When I rub it in with a spoon I only do that because of body hair*

which impedes transport to the skin.

* I have three hairs on my chest, I am a bear,-)

Regards

At 11:07 Uhr -0600 26.11.2008, Garnet wrote:

>You can wrap your arms in flannel or an old T-shirt, clean

>and rinsed well

>of all detergent residues. This can be wetter with DMSO

>before or after wrapping

>with a spray bottle or by soaking. Wrap over the compress

>with plastic wrap and

>leave on 24/7 if you want. You may want to test and make

>sure what concentration

>agrees with you. I often suggest starting low, 30% and work

>up. Some are sensitive

>others like myself can often go higher but it also depends

>on the area. Where skin is

>thinner like the face or more sensitive start with a low

>concentration. Even 10% can

>dry and blister some people.

>

>The only problem with the gel that DB suggested is that it

>may be too concentrated since

>it is 90%. But you can dilute it with Aloe Vera Gel although

>even the organic Aloe Gel is

>not pure, it has thickeners in it, that may or may not

>bother you. Just remember that DMSO

>will carry in any substance with a molecular weight under

>1000 Daltons, which includes many

>substances. Check a Material Safety Data Sheet to find the

>MW, some will have it so you may

>have to look at more than one for each substance in question.

>

>Also be sure to moisturize since DMSO is drying. Again some

>use Aloe Gel for this. I use

>Emu Oil -- www.lbemuoil.com is a high quality product.

>

>Garnet

>

> Waller wrote:

>>

>>

>> Greetings from a new member in South Carolina. I joined because I'd

>> been intending to for some time and I have some topics for you already.

>>

>> My hands and arms are feeling stressed and weak. I want to soak them

>> in DMSO -- up to the elbow or farther -- but am wondering what kind

>> of container might exist for that purpose. Anybody done a study (or

>> happen to know) what materials won't react to it? PVC maybe -- joined

>> with what adhesive?

>>

>> I had assumed that most any kind of plastic would be OK, but

>> something really strange happened. I tried filling the clear plastic

>> top of a hand dicing gadget about the size of a long shoe. The

>> plastic started immediately (if very slowly) " frosting " up. Hours or

>> days later the thing looked exactly as if somebody had put that

>> amount of water in it and put it on the ground at the North Pole. It

>> was heavily " frosted " (not only cosmetically) and the DMSO got cloudy

>> and grew a permanent surface on most of the top, just like partly

>> frozen water. Temperature has nothing to do with it -- it's

>> permanent. Fortunately I'd only soaked my hand about 30 seconds

>> before realizing the thing meant business. I poured the remaining

>> liquid on the ground but still have the thing.

>>

>> Thank you!

>>

>>

>

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>

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>

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>

>Books:

>DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton

>MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton,

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Thank you all for your advice. I am of course used to using DMSO, have put it

full strength on my face and even in my ear to cure an abscessed tooth (which

worked). I always use it full strength (sez 99.7% on bottle).

I do feel the need to submerge the arm, maybe hold it in there awhile. This will

intensify the effect and prevent waste (I normally soak paper towels in the

DMSO, then throw them away).

Anybody ever tried PVC? If you try a little on a contained and there's no

*visible* reaction in it, can one assume it's safe? Maybe I'll try a plastic

garbage bag.

Thanks! /\/

---- Joyce wrote:

> Hi ... Just my 2 cents worth here. One has to be very careful with

> plastics of anykind and DMSO because it can chemically react. I

> originally thought plastic must be " ok " because it comes in a plastic

> bottle. THEN .. when I first started mixing some of my witches brews,

> mixing DMSO with other substances, (Aloe, or essential oils, or water

> for dilution, etc. etc.) I found out that it COULD melt the plastic

> container in some places!! I later read that one should only transfer

> to plastic AFTER mixing in glass as it is the chemical reaction that

> does it. I prefer now to store it all in glass as well, (although not

> disturbing the original containers it comes in). One can feel the

> heat of any " mix " with it ... e.g., try mixing a tiny bit of DMSO with

> another substance in the palm of your hand ... and it has heat

> transfer with one's skin anyway!

>

> Youth serum: Anyone besides me notice the " tightening " effect on

> one's sagging jowls, puffy eyes, etc?? Great for a more youthful look

> BUT needs dilution with aloe or some such to also keep it from drying

> out too much.

>

> Joyce

>

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > Greetings from a new member in South Carolina. I joined because I'd

> > > been intending to for some time and I have some topics for you

> already.

> > >

> > > My hands and arms are feeling stressed and weak. I want to soak them

> > > in DMSO -- up to the elbow or farther -- but am wondering what kind

> > > of container might exist for that purpose. Anybody done a study (or

> > > happen to know) what materials won't react to it? PVC maybe -- joined

> > > with what adhesive?

> > >

> > > I had assumed that most any kind of plastic would be OK, but

> > > something really strange happened. I tried filling the clear plastic

> > > top of a hand dicing gadget about the size of a long shoe. The

> > > plastic started immediately (if very slowly) " frosting " up. Hours or

> > > days later the thing looked exactly as if somebody had put that

> > > amount of water in it and put it on the ground at the North Pole. It

> > > was heavily " frosted " (not only cosmetically) and the DMSO got cloudy

> > > and grew a permanent surface on most of the top, just like partly

> > > frozen water. Temperature has nothing to do with it -- it's

> > > permanent. Fortunately I'd only soaked my hand about 30 seconds

> > > before realizing the thing meant business. I poured the remaining

> > > liquid on the ground but still have the thing.

> > >

> > > Thank you!

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

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