Re: Food IgG Panel results/CW

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That is so good to hear about your daughter!! It sure gives hope!! If

you dont mind me asking? Was your daughter considered non verbal or

struggled with words? When did she start talking(age)? SC diet? What

do the initials stand for? Jennie<><

> > > >

> > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > Apologies ahead of time - this is LONG. I'm overwhelmed

> right now.

> > > > >

> > > > > We just got my DS's IgG test results back today. He reacted

> to 28

> > > > > different foods as " positive " for food " allergy. " Basically,

> > > > > confirmed my suspicion of leaky gut. (and despite my

> supplementing him

> > > > > with probiotics, there's apparently no colonization because

> his stool

> > > > > cultures were negative - no good bacteria - but thankfully

> no bad

> > > > > bacteria either!)

> > > > >

> > > > > One thing that I am not surprised by, but am disappointed

in

> (because

> > > > > it is going to be so much work) is that he is highly

> reactive to

> > > > > gluten containing foods [wheat +3, rye +2, barely +2, oat

+2

> (not sure

> > > > > if this is because we don't use gluten-free oats or if it's

> because he

> > > > > has an issue with oat)]. The worst part is that he is also

> reactive

> > > > > to rice (+1)and corn (+1) which are two of the easy gluten-

> free

> > > > > alternatives...(also had a score of 85 on the gliaden test,

> with

> > > > > anything over 30 being a strongly positive reaction).

> > > > >

> > > > > She reiterated that many of her patients see dramatic

> improvement with

> > > > > constipation by just going GF/CF. We've been CF for a

while,

> but have

> > > > > been dreading the GF. Easing up on gluten did seem to help

> some, but

> > > > > I'll let you all know if there's drastic improvement with

> eliminating

> > > > > gluten. At least with test results I can (hopefully) get DH

> on board.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have two questions & hope for input:

> > > > > 1) Our doc suggested we avoid all reactive foods for a

year,

> but

> > > > > could do rotation with the +1 foods if needed. I wonder,

> though,

> > > > > if anyone else has done this IgG panel and if they have any

> comment on

> > > > > the relevance of the +1 foods....Do we stand a better

chance

> of

> > > > > healing his leaky gut if we do totally avoid all 28 foods

> stringently

> > > > > or will rotating the +1's not alter the chances of healing

> the gut?

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Doc recommended a bovine (cow) immunoglobulin supplement

> to help

> > > > > with the leaky gut. I am not a fan of the idea of giving

him

> bovine

> > > > > immunoglobulin. Stick with me (if you're still reading) -

> some swear

> > > > > that raw cow's milk healed their leaky gut. If purified

> bovine

> > > > > immunoglobin supplements are helping with healing leaky

> guts, then

> > > > > perhaps this is one of the components of raw milk that

helps

> heal

> > > > > leaky guts. We know that human breast milk has tons of

> immunoglobins

> > > > > and immune factors. So, shouldn't human breast milk

(a 'raw'

> milk) be

> > > > > effective as well? Since I'm still BF'ing my 1 year old, I

> could pump

> > > > > and and try giving my 3 yr old breast milk - wouldn't this

> have the

> > > > > same effect (or better) as raw cow's milk? Has anyone heard

> of making

> > > > > yogurt with human breastmilk? If I can get probiotics into

> him in

> > > > > breastmilk yogurt, I'd be getting two supp's in at

once.....

> Am I

> > > crazy?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please don't think I'm totally insane - I just want to heal

> his gut

> > > > > and thought if I can do it with the help of my breastmilk

> instead of

> > > > > another supplement, all the better....

> > > > >

> > > > > THANK YOU for " listening " and for any thoughts/comments.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > p.s. - She recommends fermented veggies and cocobiotic

(body

> ecology).

> > > > > He's reactive (+1) to coconut, so I'm not sure if we'll try

> > > > > cocobiotic, but I've read great things about it at another

> board. I

> > > > > have long been considering making my own fermented veggies -

> so now I

> > > > > have the motivation to give it a try - just need to learn

> how -

> > > > > anybody doing this already?

> > > > >

> > > > > p.p.s. - surprised to find they couldn't culture yeast from

> his stool,

> > > > > but I still feel strongly that he has yeast symptoms (even

> the doc

> > > > > confirmed at our first appointment that the rash and

pimples

> on his

> > > > > bottom are typically tell-tale signs of yeast). any

thoughts?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is wonderful that you figured that out & that your daughter has

made so many improvements! It's a lot of detective work! Thank

goodness for the IgG testing! for me (a scientist) it is really nice

to have data showing which foods are most troublesome for him (and

makes it easier to convince DH and other family members to believe he

needs this diet).

It makes me wonder how many of the kids who are thought of as not

responding to GF/CF are actually also sensitive to one or more of the

main grains used in most gluten-free foods. I had always thought my

son was irritated by rice, but kept telling myself that it couldn't be

rice - it's supposed to be one of the most non-allergenic foods. But,

I wasn't surprised to see rice as a +1 on his IgG. So is corn. So,

if we'd just gone gluten-free without the IgG test, I'd have been

giving him all the gluten-free foods that are often mostly rice flour

and corn flour and probably assumed that he wasn't responding.

I think the " SC " may be referring to the specific carbohydrate diet?

Your daughter's story definitely gives me hope that we can get my

son's gut healed and allow us to introduce more foods again!

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > Apologies ahead of time - this is LONG. I'm overwhelmed

> > right now.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We just got my DS's IgG test results back today. He reacted

> > to 28

> > > > > > different foods as " positive " for food " allergy. " Basically,

> > > > > > confirmed my suspicion of leaky gut. (and despite my

> > supplementing him

> > > > > > with probiotics, there's apparently no colonization because

> > his stool

> > > > > > cultures were negative - no good bacteria - but thankfully

> > no bad

> > > > > > bacteria either!)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One thing that I am not surprised by, but am disappointed

> in

> > (because

> > > > > > it is going to be so much work) is that he is highly

> > reactive to

> > > > > > gluten containing foods [wheat +3, rye +2, barely +2, oat

> +2

> > (not sure

> > > > > > if this is because we don't use gluten-free oats or if it's

> > because he

> > > > > > has an issue with oat)]. The worst part is that he is also

> > reactive

> > > > > > to rice (+1)and corn (+1) which are two of the easy gluten-

> > free

> > > > > > alternatives...(also had a score of 85 on the gliaden test,

> > with

> > > > > > anything over 30 being a strongly positive reaction).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She reiterated that many of her patients see dramatic

> > improvement with

> > > > > > constipation by just going GF/CF. We've been CF for a

> while,

> > but have

> > > > > > been dreading the GF. Easing up on gluten did seem to help

> > some, but

> > > > > > I'll let you all know if there's drastic improvement with

> > eliminating

> > > > > > gluten. At least with test results I can (hopefully) get DH

> > on board.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have two questions & hope for input:

> > > > > > 1) Our doc suggested we avoid all reactive foods for a

> year,

> > but

> > > > > > could do rotation with the +1 foods if needed. I wonder,

> > though,

> > > > > > if anyone else has done this IgG panel and if they have any

> > comment on

> > > > > > the relevance of the +1 foods....Do we stand a better

> chance

> > of

> > > > > > healing his leaky gut if we do totally avoid all 28 foods

> > stringently

> > > > > > or will rotating the +1's not alter the chances of healing

> > the gut?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) Doc recommended a bovine (cow) immunoglobulin supplement

> > to help

> > > > > > with the leaky gut. I am not a fan of the idea of giving

> him

> > bovine

> > > > > > immunoglobulin. Stick with me (if you're still reading) -

> > some swear

> > > > > > that raw cow's milk healed their leaky gut. If purified

> > bovine

> > > > > > immunoglobin supplements are helping with healing leaky

> > guts, then

> > > > > > perhaps this is one of the components of raw milk that

> helps

> > heal

> > > > > > leaky guts. We know that human breast milk has tons of

> > immunoglobins

> > > > > > and immune factors. So, shouldn't human breast milk

> (a 'raw'

> > milk) be

> > > > > > effective as well? Since I'm still BF'ing my 1 year old, I

> > could pump

> > > > > > and and try giving my 3 yr old breast milk - wouldn't this

> > have the

> > > > > > same effect (or better) as raw cow's milk? Has anyone heard

> > of making

> > > > > > yogurt with human breastmilk? If I can get probiotics into

> > him in

> > > > > > breastmilk yogurt, I'd be getting two supp's in at

> once.....

> > Am I

> > > > crazy?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please don't think I'm totally insane - I just want to heal

> > his gut

> > > > > > and thought if I can do it with the help of my breastmilk

> > instead of

> > > > > > another supplement, all the better....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THANK YOU for " listening " and for any thoughts/comments.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > p.s. - She recommends fermented veggies and cocobiotic

> (body

> > ecology).

> > > > > > He's reactive (+1) to coconut, so I'm not sure if we'll try

> > > > > > cocobiotic, but I've read great things about it at another

> > board. I

> > > > > > have long been considering making my own fermented veggies -

>

> > so now I

> > > > > > have the motivation to give it a try - just need to learn

> > how -

> > > > > > anybody doing this already?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > p.p.s. - surprised to find they couldn't culture yeast from

> > his stool,

> > > > > > but I still feel strongly that he has yeast symptoms (even

> > the doc

> > > > > > confirmed at our first appointment that the rash and

> pimples

> > on his

> > > > > > bottom are typically tell-tale signs of yeast). any

> thoughts?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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