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Kathi, I will bail you out! I don't understand doctors who won't treat

pain either. It's idiotic and inhumane.

from the North

RE: [ ] RE: Kathi

> Iris....I promise and you can hold me to it...I will

> come that way.....I must go to the bird show in Fort

> Worth next month if I have to walk.....maybe we can do

> a meal but you will have to suffer the rest of the

> monster family.....I wish they would give you

> something for pain.....I had the epidural injections

> in all 3 areas of my spine and they didnt do a thing

> for me....

> I dont understand why they wont treat your pain...have

> you ever just flat out asked them PLEASE treat the

> pain...I dont understand the philosophy....I truly can

> say that is one thing they have always been willing to

> give me....would you like my left overs.....let me

> see...I have

> percocet,darvocet,neurontin,vicodin,tylox,methadone.....OK

> now I will probably have the Feds ringing my door

> bell......and I have had no offers to help with my

> bail money.....think that offer only stands for those

> northerners....LOL.....iris I am praying you get some

> elief soon.....love ya Kathi in OK

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Hi Tess, I grew up in the inner city of Los Angeles, then lived in Detroit

and Chicago...I always wanted to live in the country...and now I do! moved

into this home in May that sounds a lot like where you grew up...the house

is surrounded by woods on all sides...across the street is a sheep and goat

farm...it is so neat to look out in the yard and see the wild turkeys,

possom and listen to the owl in the backyard...haven't spotted the owl

yet...but sure hear him...it is so great to drive home after work to the

country...it sure is a different life...waking to birds and crickets and

the neighbors rooster instead of the hub bub of the city traffic, sirens and

trains. There are 5 or 6 goats who get out of the fenced in area each

morning...and are wandering in our front yard...I had always thought I

wanted a goat; but now I can enjoy the neighbors goats minus the work and

responsibility of taking care of them...talk about the good life! Do you

miss living in the country? are you in the City now? marge

[ ] Kathi

> Hi Kathi...when the kids were little we lived way out in the country on

> some acreage. I miss those days. The kids always had animals, and at

> night I'd go out on the deck that overlooked the valley and lsten to the

> owls and coyotes.

>

> We had an ecentric elderly " neighbor " a mile away whose cattle liked to

> roam all over our land....when I called to talk to him, he gave ME a

> talking to about how it is still Free Range in Oregon (not where I

> lived). Then there was the morning I awoke to hoofs clomping on our

> deck....another neighbor's horse.

>

> MY eldest daughter won many a ribbon showing rabbits with 4-H. Then we

> had the cutest little Nubian goat named, " Rootin' Tootin' Newton, the

> Neutered Nubian Puruvian Goat. " Th kids took turn feeding him with the

> big baby bottle.

>

> Ah, memories.....

>

> Love & Hugs....

>

> Tess

>

>

>

>

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((((((Kathi))))))

That was so sad, I’m so sorry to hear about . I’ve also always wanted

a goat – they’ve got such personality! Everyone I know knows this and

thinks I’m nuts but I just love them to bits. I even love their smell,

which I'm told is " not normal " - apparently they don't smell good, but I

disagree! LOL! What kind of bird is a Quaker? I’m picturing a duck but don’t

think there’s a duck that can talk – sounds really interesting.

((((Hugs))))

Heidi

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Add me to both your bail list! Better yet, I¹ve got some extra vicodan and

a few others too

So we can be cell mates :)

It¹s appalling that even with the knowledge of how painful this disease is,

some doctors

refuse to prescribe adequate pain meds. I wish they could suffer our pain

for a week.

They¹d be writing so many prescriptions that the DEA would be investigating

them!!!

Hugs,

a

> Iris....I promise and you can hold me to it...I will

> come that way.....I must go to the bird show in Fort

> Worth next month if I have to walk.....maybe we can do

> a meal but you will have to suffer the rest of the

> monster family.....I wish they would give you

> something for pain.....I had the epidural injections

> in all 3 areas of my spine and they didnt do a thing

> for me....

> I dont understand why they wont treat your pain...have

> you ever just flat out asked them PLEASE treat the

> pain...I dont understand the philosophy....I truly can

> say that is one thing they have always been willing to

> give me....would you like my left overs.....let me

> see...I have

> percocet,darvocet,neurontin,vicodin,tylox,methadone.....OK

> now I will probably have the Feds ringing my door

> bell......and I have had no offers to help with my

> bail money.....think that offer only stands for those

> northerners....LOL.....iris I am praying you get some

> elief soon.....love ya Kathi in OK

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a: I look forward to having a cell mate...and if

that is the only way to meet you so be it.....and

Iris...where are you? I know you havent been feeling

well, I hope you are OK?......Kathi in OK

--- a <paula54@...> wrote:

> Add me to both your bail list! Better yet, I¹ve got

> some extra vicodan and

> a few others too

> So we can be cell mates :)

> It¹s appalling that even with the knowledge of how

> painful this disease is,

> some doctors

> refuse to prescribe adequate pain meds. I wish they

> could suffer our pain

> for a week.

> They¹d be writing so many prescriptions that the DEA

> would be investigating

> them!!!

> Hugs,

> a

>

>

> > Iris....I promise and you can hold me to it...I

> will

> > come that way.....I must go to the bird show in

> Fort

> > Worth next month if I have to walk.....maybe we

> can do

> > a meal but you will have to suffer the rest of the

> > monster family.....I wish they would give you

> > something for pain.....I had the epidural

> injections

> > in all 3 areas of my spine and they didnt do a

> thing

> > for me....

> > I dont understand why they wont treat your

> pain...have

> > you ever just flat out asked them PLEASE treat the

> > pain...I dont understand the philosophy....I truly

> can

> > say that is one thing they have always been

> willing to

> > give me....would you like my left overs.....let me

> > see...I have

> >

>

percocet,darvocet,neurontin,vicodin,tylox,methadone.....OK

> > now I will probably have the Feds ringing my door

> > bell......and I have had no offers to help with my

> > bail money.....think that offer only stands for

> those

> > northerners....LOL.....iris I am praying you get

> some

> > elief soon.....love ya Kathi in OK

> -

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

=====

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder battle. " Plato

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Hi Kathi, Maybe we could all take a vacation together

but I don't think the room service would be much to

talk about. I have been trying to get through some

chores that have been piling up. You know...all the

fun stuff...laudry, bills, dishes, etc.

My knee is still swollen but it is not hurting as bad.

My ortho is going to work me in on Mon. and we will

discuss what options are open to me. After all of the

problems that Debs and others are having, I don't know

that I will want to risk a knee replacement. I think

I will go for cleaning it up and maybe have something

done to the ligament.

The day after I dropped by records off to the pain

management clinic they called me and set up an appt.

for the middle of October. I hope that my current

meds last that long. I really hope that I can

establish a good rapport with the dr.

Kathi, you never know when you mention something to

one of our members that they could have the same

interests. That's why I like that we spent time

discussing our lives as well as how to deal with our

diseases. There appear to be a lot of bird and animal

lovers in our group. Sometimes they are the only ones

we don't have to explain anything to.

I think that I will put on a duragesic patch tomorrow

and try to move some of my hostas. They are about the

only thing that will grow well in my yard due to all

of the shady spots because of pecan trees. I will

make sure that I don't over do it.

How has your day been? I hope that you are feeling

ok. Have a good weekend. Hugs, Iris

--- Kathi in OK <iamladybird@...> wrote:

> a: I look forward to having a cell mate...and if

> that is the only way to meet you so be it.....and

> Iris...where are you? I know you havent been feeling

> well, I hope you are OK?......Kathi in OK

> --- a <paula54@...> wrote:

> > Add me to both your bail list! Better yet, I1ve

> got

> > some extra vicodan and

> > a few others too

> > So we can be cell mates :)

> > It1s appalling that even with the knowledge of how

> > painful this disease is,

> > some doctors

> > refuse to prescribe adequate pain meds. I wish

> they

> > could suffer our pain

> > for a week.

> > They1d be writing so many prescriptions that the

> DEA

> > would be investigating

> > them!!!

> > Hugs,

> > a

> >

> >

> > > Iris....I promise and you can hold me to it...I

> > will

> > > come that way.....I must go to the bird show in

> > Fort

> > > Worth next month if I have to walk.....maybe we

> > can do

> > > a meal but you will have to suffer the rest of

> the

> > > monster family.....I wish they would give you

> > > something for pain.....I had the epidural

> > injections

> > > in all 3 areas of my spine and they didnt do a

> > thing

> > > for me....

> > > I dont understand why they wont treat your

> > pain...have

> > > you ever just flat out asked them PLEASE treat

> the

> > > pain...I dont understand the philosophy....I

> truly

> > can

> > > say that is one thing they have always been

> > willing to

> > > give me....would you like my left overs.....let

> me

> > > see...I have

> > >

> >

>

percocet,darvocet,neurontin,vicodin,tylox,methadone.....OK

> > > now I will probably have the Feds ringing my

> door

> > > bell......and I have had no offers to help with

> my

> > > bail money.....think that offer only stands for

> > those

> > > northerners....LOL.....iris I am praying you get

> > some

> > > elief soon.....love ya Kathi in OK

> > -

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> =====

> Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a harder

> battle. " Plato

>

> __________________________________________________

> - We Remember

> 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost

> http://dir.remember./tribute

>

>

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Iris...I am glad you are OK ....well semi OK....I

agree with you on the knee....what has happened I

think will cause alot of us to ask some big questions

should it ever be our turn....and now you and others

LOL have me drooling...Tess...Stacey....please post

this recipe for pumpkin squares....I love to

bake...hate to cook ...but love to bake....although

now my two oldest are gone it seems to stay aroung

longer....somewhere I have a recipe for sweet potatoes

with a pecan topping that is really good I will dig

for it....being from the north originally I use to use

walnuts in everything....then I moved here and would

bake for my seniors and they wouldnt touch it...at

first I thought maybe because of their teeth .....but

then one day I was really hurt and asked and one of

them said honey no good southerner eats anything but

pecans....so I learned my lesson and have been baking

with pecans for 20 years now....although I must

confess....if it is for me I will still use

walnuts....you are lucky to have your very own pecan

trees with the price of pecans these days....after the

first frost we go down to Charlie Texas and pick our

own at the farms there it ends up being alot cheaper

and they freeze really well....please do take it easy

moving your hostas...and have a good

weekend.....drooling in OK Kathi

--- Iris Nosker <inosker@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Kathi, Maybe we could all take a vacation

> together

> but I don't think the room service would be much to

> talk about. I have been trying to get through some

> chores that have been piling up. You know...all the

> fun stuff...laudry, bills, dishes, etc.

>

> My knee is still swollen but it is not hurting as

> bad.

> My ortho is going to work me in on Mon. and we will

> discuss what options are open to me. After all of

> the

> problems that Debs and others are having, I don't

> know

> that I will want to risk a knee replacement. I

> think

> I will go for cleaning it up and maybe have

> something

> done to the ligament.

>

> The day after I dropped by records off to the pain

> management clinic they called me and set up an appt.

> for the middle of October. I hope that my current

> meds last that long. I really hope that I can

> establish a good rapport with the dr.

>

> Kathi, you never know when you mention something to

> one of our members that they could have the same

> interests. That's why I like that we spent time

> discussing our lives as well as how to deal with our

> diseases. There appear to be a lot of bird and

> animal

> lovers in our group. Sometimes they are the only

> ones

> we don't have to explain anything to.

>

> I think that I will put on a duragesic patch

> tomorrow

> and try to move some of my hostas. They are about

> the

> only thing that will grow well in my yard due to all

> of the shady spots because of pecan trees. I will

> make sure that I don't over do it.

>

> How has your day been? I hope that you are feeling

> ok. Have a good weekend. Hugs, Iris

> --- Kathi in OK <iamladybird@...> wrote:

> > a: I look forward to having a cell mate...and

> if

> > that is the only way to meet you so be it.....and

> > Iris...where are you? I know you havent been

> feeling

> > well, I hope you are OK?......Kathi in OK

> > --- a <paula54@...> wrote:

> > > Add me to both your bail list! Better yet, I1ve

> > got

> > > some extra vicodan and

> > > a few others too

> > > So we can be cell mates :)

> > > It1s appalling that even with the knowledge of

> how

> > > painful this disease is,

> > > some doctors

> > > refuse to prescribe adequate pain meds. I wish

> > they

> > > could suffer our pain

> > > for a week.

> > > They1d be writing so many prescriptions that the

> > DEA

> > > would be investigating

> > > them!!!

> > > Hugs,

> > > a

> > >

> > >

> > > > Iris....I promise and you can hold me to

> it...I

> > > will

> > > > come that way.....I must go to the bird show

> in

> > > Fort

> > > > Worth next month if I have to walk.....maybe

> we

> > > can do

> > > > a meal but you will have to suffer the rest of

> > the

> > > > monster family.....I wish they would give you

> > > > something for pain.....I had the epidural

> > > injections

> > > > in all 3 areas of my spine and they didnt do a

> > > thing

> > > > for me....

> > > > I dont understand why they wont treat your

> > > pain...have

> > > > you ever just flat out asked them PLEASE treat

> > the

> > > > pain...I dont understand the philosophy....I

> > truly

> > > can

> > > > say that is one thing they have always been

> > > willing to

> > > > give me....would you like my left

> overs.....let

> > me

> > > > see...I have

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

percocet,darvocet,neurontin,vicodin,tylox,methadone.....OK

> > > > now I will probably have the Feds ringing my

> > door

> > > > bell......and I have had no offers to help

> with

> > my

> > > > bail money.....think that offer only stands

> for

> > > those

> > > > northerners....LOL.....iris I am praying you

> get

> > > some

> > > > elief soon.....love ya Kathi in OK

> > > -

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > =====

> > Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a

> harder

> > battle. " Plato

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> > - We Remember

> > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost

> > http://dir.remember./tribute

> >

> >

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When my girls were young, we never " celebrated " Halloween, or things

related to it. My kids were " deprived " ! If they got to go trick or

treating, it was only to the 2 grandparents houses, and then, I would

draw eyebrows on them, or throw a sheet over them. We never made a big

deal of it.

But...in the Fall, we always took Pumpkins, and when we cleaned them, we

would clean the SEEDS and then bake the SEEDS with salt and a little

butter on a cookie sheet. They were SO GOOD! I loved them...so did the

girls. My girls still do this. I think I might do this this year...for

old times sake?

By the way, for a parent who never really let their kids " celebrate " or

participate in Halloween ...it was a funny turn of the tables on me,

when my FIRST GRANDSON was born...it was on Halloween night! So now...

he has his Birthday instead of Trick or Treat!

Susie

Kathi in OK wrote:

> Iris...I am glad you are OK ....well semi OK....I

> agree with you on the knee....what has happened I

> think will cause alot of us to ask some big questions

> should it ever be our turn....and now you and others

> LOL have me drooling...Tess...Stacey....please post

> this recipe for pumpkin squares....I love to

> bake...hate to cook ...but love to bake....although

> now my two oldest are gone it seems to stay aroung

> longer....somewhere I have a recipe for sweet potatoes

> with a pecan topping that is really good I will dig

> for it....being from the north originally I use to use

> walnuts in everything....then I moved here and would

> bake for my seniors and they wouldnt touch it...at

> first I thought maybe because of their teeth .....but

> then one day I was really hurt and asked and one of

> them said honey no good southerner eats anything but

> pecans....so I learned my lesson and have been baking

> with pecans for 20 years now....although I must

> confess....if it is for me I will still use

> walnuts....you are lucky to have your very own pecan

> trees with the price of pecans these days....after the

> first frost we go down to Charlie Texas and pick our

> own at the farms there it ends up being alot cheaper

> and they freeze really well....please do take it easy

> moving your hostas...and have a good

> weekend.....drooling in OK Kathi

> --- Iris Nosker <inosker@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Kathi, Maybe we could all take a vacation

> > together

> > but I don't think the room service would be much to

> > talk about. I have been trying to get through some

> > chores that have been piling up. You know...all the

> > fun stuff...laudry, bills, dishes, etc.

> >

> > My knee is still swollen but it is not hurting as

> > bad.

> > My ortho is going to work me in on Mon. and we will

> > discuss what options are open to me. After all of

> > the

> > problems that Debs and others are having, I don't

> > know

> > that I will want to risk a knee replacement. I

> > think

> > I will go for cleaning it up and maybe have

> > something

> > done to the ligament.

> >

> > The day after I dropped by records off to the pain

> > management clinic they called me and set up an appt.

> > for the middle of October. I hope that my current

> > meds last that long. I really hope that I can

> > establish a good rapport with the dr.

> >

> > Kathi, you never know when you mention something to

> > one of our members that they could have the same

> > interests. That's why I like that we spent time

> > discussing our lives as well as how to deal with our

> > diseases. There appear to be a lot of bird and

> > animal

> > lovers in our group. Sometimes they are the only

> > ones

> > we don't have to explain anything to.

> >

> > I think that I will put on a duragesic patch

> > tomorrow

> > and try to move some of my hostas. They are about

> > the

> > only thing that will grow well in my yard due to all

> > of the shady spots because of pecan trees. I will

> > make sure that I don't over do it.

> >

> > How has your day been? I hope that you are feeling

> > ok. Have a good weekend. Hugs, Iris

> > --- Kathi in OK <iamladybird@...> wrote:

> > > a: I look forward to having a cell mate...and

> > if

> > > that is the only way to meet you so be it.....and

> > > Iris...where are you? I know you havent been

> > feeling

> > > well, I hope you are OK?......Kathi in OK

> > > --- a <paula54@...> wrote:

> > > > Add me to both your bail list! Better yet, I1ve

> > > got

> > > > some extra vicodan and

> > > > a few others too

> > > > So we can be cell mates :)

> > > > It1s appalling that even with the knowledge of

> > how

> > > > painful this disease is,

> > > > some doctors

> > > > refuse to prescribe adequate pain meds. I wish

> > > they

> > > > could suffer our pain

> > > > for a week.

> > > > They1d be writing so many prescriptions that the

> > > DEA

> > > > would be investigating

> > > > them!!!

> > > > Hugs,

> > > > a

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Iris....I promise and you can hold me to

> > it...I

> > > > will

> > > > > come that way.....I must go to the bird show

> > in

> > > > Fort

> > > > > Worth next month if I have to walk.....maybe

> > we

> > > > can do

> > > > > a meal but you will have to suffer the rest of

> > > the

> > > > > monster family.....I wish they would give you

> > > > > something for pain.....I had the epidural

> > > > injections

> > > > > in all 3 areas of my spine and they didnt do a

> > > > thing

> > > > > for me....

> > > > > I dont understand why they wont treat your

> > > > pain...have

> > > > > you ever just flat out asked them PLEASE treat

> > > the

> > > > > pain...I dont understand the philosophy....I

> > > truly

> > > > can

> > > > > say that is one thing they have always been

> > > > willing to

> > > > > give me....would you like my left

> > overs.....let

> > > me

> > > > > see...I have

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> percocet,darvocet,neurontin,vicodin,tylox,methadone.....OK

> > > > > now I will probably have the Feds ringing my

> > > door

> > > > > bell......and I have had no offers to help

> > with

> > > my

> > > > > bail money.....think that offer only stands

> > for

> > > > those

> > > > > northerners....LOL.....iris I am praying you

> > get

> > > > some

> > > > > elief soon.....love ya Kathi in OK

> > > > -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > =====

> > > Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a

> > harder

> > > battle. " Plato

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > > - We Remember

> > > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost

> > > http://dir.remember./tribute

> > >

> > >

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Heidi: I am OK....always OK even when Im not....hugs

to you and waiting for the day you write ....in about

9 months...........Kathi in OK

--- Heidi Steppe-Hoareau <steps122@...> wrote:

> Hey there Kathi!

> Thanks for the crossed fingers, I know what you mean

> about too much wine =

> being too sleepy for hanky panky LOL! I’ll make

> sure to take your advice.

> How are you doing?

> Hugs,

> Heidi

>

>

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