Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Corey - Are you giving any magnesium supplement or other laxative now that you've removed Miralax? I'd be concerned that fiber and avoiding milk will not be enough to keep her bowels moving. Also, epsom salt and baking soda baths can help - both with constipation (epsom salts are magnesium sulfate) and with the discomfort. Are you giving probiotics? These can help degrade the oxalates - many really like VSL#3 (www.vsl3.com), particularly for oxalate issues. I think it's the b. infantis which is particularly good at degrading oxalates, although I believe other species of lactic acid bacteria do this also. I use Kirkman Super Pro Bio http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/probiotics/pro_bio/Probio75b_C_60_Spec345.ht\ ml and alternate with Metagenics UltraFlora. members of the " Trying_Low_Oxalates " group discuss epsom salt baths and using arginine for relief of the oxalic acid pain during " dumps " - I have not tried arginine for my son, although his latest episode was terrible and I will consider this if he starts showing signs again. there are a lot of descriptions of " oxalate dumping " and general oxalate info at the Trying_low_oxalates group. Also, the moderator of that board has started a website: http://lowoxalate.info/ The " vitamin K " group also discusses oxalate issues and emphasizes utilizing probiotics (help degrade oxalates that get dumped in the gut), baking soda/epsom salt baths help relieve pain & soothe irritation, and taking small amounts of baking soda/salt orally to help reduce body pH and help the kidneys clear acid better. (LeeAnn, please jump in if I misinterpreted something here - I'm still trying to process the vitamin K group's info......) If you can get your daughter to urinate in a cup (or in her clean potty & pour into a cup) you can check for crystals or cloudy urine. My son's sometimes doesn't appear cloudy, but after about 5 - 10 minutes I can see the crystals settling out. Checking urine and saliva pH can give you some insight. Check for LeeAnn's previous posts here ( " mommtlc " ) on pH and also her tips in a document in the files section. Also, if you think removing dairy (casein) is helpful to her, you might try removing gluten too. These often go hand in hand (not always) - but it may help & could be worth a try. Looking into an alternative laxative (e.g., magnesium supplementation) to try to keep her bowels moving is probably something to do ASAP if you haven't already. Hang in there!! HTH, Not to sound stupid but what exactly is oxalates? My wife and I are curious? ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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