Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 >. Adequate vitamin D cannot be generated by casual sun exposure of the face and arms; it requires that 80% of the body be exposed for at least 15-20 minutes to generate sufficient daily vitamin D. I truly challenge this statement by whoever originally said it. It is the retinas, also, that absorb the sun's rays to produce vitamin D. The sun's rays " bounce " all over the place, while outside, producing a magnified effect on our skin and through our eyes. Dr. Mercola is a big proponent of Vitamin D and also believes the thing about between the hrs of 10 and 3. No way am I walking outside mostly naked, even though I do wear shorts and sleeveless tops in the warm weather. I think that we were made much better than that, and I don't think that the Maker made any mistakes with us or our environment when he made us, so I do think that the cool weather-equator thing is a little more than a little exaggerated by whoever the writer was of some of this material. However, I do believe that vitamin D should be taken in much much higher amts than that tiny little bit of 400 ius. Thousands likely. I'm assuming that the writer gathered this info from many many opinions, right? There are many and varying. I like to see the stuff that's done in studies under very careful control and documented, when it comes to these claims. It is a serious thing to tell the public that they can't be VERY harmed with millions of units of Vitamin D, because we don't really know whether those non-repercussions were true or not, at this point. Holy cow. Re: B vitamins and " D " Hi all, This is worth repeating....... Bj The below information is on the Brain Talk Communities - Gluten Sensitivity Forum (I think it's fascinating info!). The person that posted this info on that forum is a wealth of information on Vitamin D supplementation, and he posts many links for studies done about safe high dose supplementation of Vitamin D. After reading his posts and quotes from the studies, I have absolutely no qualms about taking 5,000iu/day! Although if I get half that much I think its progress. I always take my vit D with calcium, magnesium, zinc for best benefit. Since I take Armour sublingually I don't have to worry about the four hour rule, but make sure it's four hours away from when I take iron. You may find Zuleikaa's factsheet fascinating and interesting, too. http://forum.lowcarber.org/showpost.php?p=6684892 & postcount=1524 Vitamin D Facts Vitamin D deficiency is implicated in over 80 diseases and has been proven to prevent or remit 28 kinds of cancers. Vitamin D is a powerful steroidal hormone that tells the body how to work and controls a wide variety of cellular functions, not just calcium regulation and bone growth. If it hurts to press firmly on the breastbone, you might have chronic vitamin D deficiency. Other signs of vitamin D deficiency: .. Arthritis, bone, muscle, and/or joint pain, lack of leg and other muscle strength; lack of balance, rickets, osteomalacia, osteoporosis, need for joint replacement .. Susceptibility to sunburn, fragile skin that easily tears, cracked dry skin, eczema, psoriasis, rosacea .. Tiredness, depression, Seasonal Effective Disorder (SAD),Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) .. Diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, hyperparathyroidism, .. Immune system and Auto immune diseases: Asthma, Lupus, TB, MS, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Celiac, Crohn's, Parkinson's, rheumatoid arthritis, Fibromyalgia, chronic infections .. PMS, heavy bleeding, fibroids, infertility, PCOS, low testosterone/estrogen .. Any cancer, especially that of the skin, breast, ovaries, cervix, colon, prostate, lung, and lymphomas .. Prenatal/child implications: gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, miscarriage, hypertension, low birth weight, birth defects, teeth and bone deformities, autism, asthma, Type I diabetes, learning disabilities Per day: 2,000-50,000 IU vitamin D3, 1200-1800 mg calcium, and 600- 900 mg magnesium. Always take calcium and magnesium with vitamin D supplements. Vitamin D will pull calcium from the bones if adequate calcium is not ingested. Magnesium assists in calcium uptake. Required vitamin D dose depends on season, resident latitude, skin tone, weight, age, dress or cultural mores as well as presence and severity of D deficiency symptoms. Adequate vitamin D levels can prevent 80% of vitamin D deficiency related diseases and cancers, 80% of breast cancers, and 50% of prostate cancers. 60 times more cancer deaths are attributed to vitamin D deficiency from lack of sun exposure than to skin cancer deaths from too much sun exposure. In fact, people with adequate vitamin D levels do not get skin cancer. Natural vitamin D3 is very safe!!! Natural vitamin D, cholecalciferol, is named D3; manmade vitamin D, ergocalciferol, is named D2. .. Natural vitamin D, D3, has been tested at 20,000 IUs per day over a 5 year period and found non toxic. .. Cases of proven natural vitamin D toxicity have been the result of industrial accidents or accidental mega doses in excess of 1 Million IUs per day over a prolonged period. .. No incident of natural vitamin D toxicity has resulted in death. .. Vitamin D levels can be easily tested via the is 25(OH)D blood test. When reading results ignore the lab ranges for normal as ranges were established using a vitamin D deficient population. Use these instead: --Any reading below 50 nmol/L is deficient. --Any reading of 50-80 nmol/L is insufficient --80-250 nmol/L is optimal and preventive of cancers. --Individuals in the tropics have vitamin D levels from mid 100s-200 nmol/L. .. Vitamin D toxicity arises at a blood level of >250 nmol/L. Natural vitamin D3 is safe even for children, infants, and fetus!!! A 2 year old was given 4 Million IUs of vitamin D over a 5 day period resulting in vitamin D toxicity. His symptoms were diarrhea, stomach ache, and high blood calcium. He was treated over a period of 3 months to reduce his calcium and fully recovered with no negative results. Vitamin D is essential in the development of fetal bone, brain, and nervous systems, and prevents birth defects and miscarriages. Breast fed infants, especially, should be given liquid vitamin D supplements. Experts recommend pregnant and lactating women take 4,000 IUs of D per day, and children up to 60 pounds be given 1,000-2,000 IUs of D per day, or enough vitamin D in each case to achieve blood levels above 60 ng/ml. .. Adults born in winter or spring have higher rates of schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression. .. Children born June-August are seven times more likely to have learning disabilities, mental idiotation, low Apgar scores, low birth weight, and dyslexia than those born in cooler months. .. Prior to 1985 infants and children in Finland, Norway and Sweden were given 2,000-4,000 IUs a day of D3. Those countries then had the lowest rates of juvenile diabetes, and developmental, and childhood illness of industrialized nations. These children, now adults, have the lowest rates of cancer compared to those who were not supplemented. .. 27 sickly children ages ranging from 2-12 were given 9,000 IUs a day of vitamin D3 for six weeks one winter; they stopped getting sick. Implications for People of Color: .. People with darker skin need up to 20 times as much exposure to sunlight as fair-skinned people to generate the same amount of vitamin D. .. Blacks generally are 10 times more vitamin D deficient than whites. .. More than 80% of Black women and almost 50% of white women are deficient upon delivery. .. 92% of Black infants and 62% of white infants are born vitamin D deficient .. Blacks have nearly 50%percent higher rate of birth defects than whites, Hispanics 30% higher. .. Young Black women are 24 times more vitamin D deficient than young white women. Of those tested, almost 50% had vitamin D levels <15 ng/ml. .. 87% of Black adolescents tested have vitamin D deficiency with vitamin D levels below <30 ng/mg .. Blacks have lower survival rates for all types of cancer all other factors being equal. Other impacted populations: .. People with very pale skin that won't tan, and those of Northern European heritage can not generate adequate vitamin D levels from the sun before burning. .. People of orthodox religions or those having cultural mores that limit the amount of skin that is exposed. .. The elderly; the ability to make vitamin D decreases with age. .. Apartment dwellers, office workers, shut-ins and those in nursing homes. .. The obese; vitamin D is captured in fat and therefore the obese may need up to 4 times the amount of vitamin D as a normal weight individual. Other considerations: .. Vitamin D use by a healthy body is about 7,000 IU/day; the RDI is currently 400 IU/day. Many experts recommend increasing the vitamin D RDI from 400 to 2,000 IU/day. .. Sufficient levels of vitamin D are crucial for calcium absorption. Without sufficient vitamin D, the body cannot absorb calcium, this makes calcium supplements useless and leads to osteoporosis. .. It's impossible to obtain enough vitamin D from diet alone and multivitamins do not contain adequate vitamin D. Sunlight exposure is the only reliable way for the body to generate vitamin D. When adequate sunlight is not available, an individual vitamin D supplement is required. .. Prenatal vitamins do not contain adequate vitamin D for optimum fetal development. .. Chronic vitamin D deficiency cannot be reversed overnight: it takes months of high dose vitamin D supplementation and sunlight exposure to rebuild the body's bones and nervous system. .. The best time to produce vitamin D from sun exposure during the day is between the hours of 10-3, the time most people are indoors, and the very hours that people are advised to avoid the sun. .. Adequate vitamin D cannot be generated by casual sun exposure of the face and arms; it requires that 80% of the body be exposed for at least 15-20 minutes to generate sufficient daily vitamin D. .. Use of sunscreen/block of even SPF=8 cuts 95% of vitamin D production. .. Vitamin D cannot be produced by sun shining through glass. .. Rates of vitamin D deficiency diseases rise with distance from the equator. .. The further you live from the equator, the longer exposure you need to the midday sun in order to generate vitamin D. Canada, the UK and most U.S. states are far from the equator. .. There is no possible vitamin D production from the sun during winter for those living above 41 degrees latitude north or south of the equator. .. Daily vitamin D needs cannot be met from the sun during winter 37 degrees from the equator. .. Clouds, aerosols and thick ozone events reduce the duration of vitamin D synthesis considerably, and can suppress vitamin D synthesis completely even at the equator. .. Kidney disease or liver damage can impair the body's ability to activate vitamin D for its use. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Concur with the capacity of the maker, . I would like to add. Two problems face us in terms of Vitmain D from sunlight:. While acknowledging that extremely short day lengths may be a problem during winter in very high latitudes, lack of Vitamin D from the sun stems from two factors, -we have modifed our lifestyle so much that we no longer go outside (e.g., we are on the computer instead of being in the garden). -we have modifed the environment so that it no longer so safe: Aussies felt the direct effects of this: at one point the O-zone hole extended up above about one-third of the lower part of the country. The Australian Authorities, part in response to this, and partly because of our English heritage (which required going outside and sunbaking until we looked like a prune by the age of 45), decided to launch a campaing "slip, slop, slap", whith is basicaly slip on appropriate clothes, slap on some sunscreen and slap on a hat. This campaign has been so effective that most people do it, every time they go out in the sun, because they are so freaked about skin cancer. This means that they rarely get enough sun to make Vitamin D, every though they spend so much time in the sun. The campaign has been too effective, and while protecting individuals from skin cancer one way, is likely to increase skin caner through Vitamin D deficiency. Why you can get Vitamin D via other means, the sun actually does more than that. It affects a whole heap of things, many of which we probably dont understand yet. On of the things it affects is our neurological responses, how happy we are. How happy we are in turn affects, our immune responses, digestion, metabolism and much to do how well we are. Want to improve your immunity, join a laugher club! lol, but...I am serious..... Re: B vitamins and "D"Hi all,This is worth repeating.... .... BjThe below information is on the Brain Talk Communities - GlutenSensitivity Forum (I think it's fascinating info!). The person thatposted this info on that forum is a wealth of information on Vitamin Dsupplementation, and he posts many links for studies done about safehigh dose supplementation of Vitamin D. After reading his posts andquotes from the studies, I have absolutely no qualms about taking5,000iu/day! Although if I get half that much I think its progress.I always take my vit D with calcium, magnesium, zinc for bestbenefit. Since I take Armour sublingually I don't have to worryabout the four hour rule, but make sure it's four hours away fromwhen I take iron.You may find Zuleikaa's factsheet fascinating and interesting, too.http://forum. lowcarber. org/showpost. php?p=6684892 & postcount= 1524Vitamin D FactsVitamin D deficiency is implicated in over 80 diseases and has beenproven to prevent or remit 28 kinds of cancers. Vitamin D is apowerful steroidal hormone that tells the body how to work andcontrols a wide variety of cellular functions, not just calciumregulation and bone growth.If it hurts to press firmly on the breastbone, you might have chronicvitamin D deficiency.Other signs of vitamin D deficiency:. Arthritis, bone, muscle, and/or joint pain, lack of leg and othermuscle strength; lack of balance, rickets, osteomalacia,osteoporosis, need for joint replacement. Susceptibility to sunburn, fragile skin that easily tears, crackeddry skin, eczema, psoriasis, rosacea. Tiredness, depression, Seasonal Effective Disorder (SAD),ChronicFatigue Syndrome (CFS). Diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, hyperparathyroidism ,. Immune system and Auto immune diseases: Asthma, Lupus, TB, MS,Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Celiac, Crohn's, Parkinson's,rheumatoid arthritis, Fibromyalgia, chronic infections. PMS, heavy bleeding, fibroids, infertility, PCOS, lowtestosterone/ estrogen. Any cancer, especially that of the skin, breast, ovaries, cervix,colon, prostate, lung, and lymphomas. Prenatal/child implications: gestational diabetes, preeclampsia,miscarriage, hypertension, low birth weight, birth defects, teeth andbone deformities, autism, asthma, Type I diabetes, learningdisabilitiesPer day: 2,000-50,000 IU vitamin D3, 1200-1800 mg calcium, and 600-900 mg magnesium. Always take calcium and magnesium with vitamin Dsupplements. Vitamin D will pull calcium from the bones if adequatecalcium is not ingested. Magnesium assists in calcium uptake.Required vitamin D dose depends on season, resident latitude, skintone, weight, age, dress or cultural mores as well as presence andseverity of D deficiency symptoms.Adequate vitamin D levels can prevent 80% of vitamin D deficiencyrelated diseases and cancers, 80% of breast cancers, and 50% ofprostate cancers.60 times more cancer deaths are attributed to vitamin D deficiencyfrom lack of sun exposure than to skin cancer deaths from too muchsun exposure. In fact, people with adequate vitamin D levels do notget skin cancer.Natural vitamin D3 is very safe!!!Natural vitamin D, cholecalciferol, is named D3; manmade vitamin D,ergocalciferol, is named D2.. Natural vitamin D, D3, has been tested at 20,000 IUs per day over a5 year period and found non toxic.. Cases of proven natural vitamin D toxicity have been the result ofindustrial accidents or accidental mega doses in excess of 1 MillionIUs per day over a prolonged period.. No incident of natural vitamin D toxicity has resulted in death.. Vitamin D levels can be easily tested via the is 25(OH)D bloodtest. When reading results ignore the lab ranges for normal as rangeswere established using a vitamin D deficient population. Use theseinstead:--Any reading below 50 nmol/L is deficient.--Any reading of 50-80 nmol/L is insufficient--80-250 nmol/L is optimal and preventive of cancers.--Individuals in the tropics have vitamin D levels from mid 100s-200nmol/L.. Vitamin D toxicity arises at a blood level of >250 nmol/L.Natural vitamin D3 is safe even for children, infants, and fetus!!! A2 year old was given 4 Million IUs of vitamin D over a 5 day periodresulting in vitamin D toxicity. His symptoms were diarrhea, stomachache, and high blood calcium. He was treated over a period of 3months to reduce his calcium and fully recovered with no negativeresults. Vitamin D is essential in the development of fetal bone,brain, and nervous systems, and prevents birth defects andmiscarriages. Breast fed infants, especially, should be given liquidvitamin D supplements. Experts recommend pregnant and lactating womentake 4,000 IUs of D per day, and children up to 60 pounds be given1,000-2,000 IUs of D per day, or enough vitamin D in each case toachieve blood levels above 60 ng/ml.. Adults born in winter or spring have higher rates of schizophrenia,bipolar disorder, and depression.. Children born June-August are seven times more likely to havelearning disabilities, mental idiotation, low Apgar scores, low birthweight, and dyslexia than those born in cooler months.. Prior to 1985 infants and children in Finland, Norway and Swedenwere given 2,000-4,000 IUs a day of D3. Those countries then had thelowest rates of juvenile diabetes, and developmental, and childhoodillness of industrialized nations. These children, now adults, havethe lowest rates of cancer compared to those who were notsupplemented.. 27 sickly children ages ranging from 2-12 were given 9,000 IUs aday of vitamin D3 for six weeks one winter; they stopped getting sick.Implications for People of Color:. People with darker skin need up to 20 times as much exposure tosunlight as fair-skinned people to generate the same amount ofvitamin D.. Blacks generally are 10 times more vitamin D deficient than whites.. More than 80% of Black women and almost 50% of white women aredeficient upon delivery.. 92% of Black infants and 62% of white infants are born vitamin Ddeficient. Blacks have nearly 50%percent higher rate of birth defects thanwhites, Hispanics 30% higher.. Young Black women are 24 times more vitamin D deficient than youngwhite women. Of those tested, almost 50% had vitamin D levels <15ng/ml... 87% of Black adolescents tested have vitamin D deficiency withvitamin D levels below <30 ng/mg. Blacks have lower survival rates for all types of cancer all otherfactors being equal.Other impacted populations:. People with very pale skin that won't tan, and those of NorthernEuropean heritage can not generate adequate vitamin D levels from thesun before burning.. People of orthodox religions or those having cultural mores thatlimit the amount of skin that is exposed.. The elderly; the ability to make vitamin D decreases with age.. Apartment dwellers, office workers, shut-ins and those in nursinghomes.. The obese; vitamin D is captured in fat and therefore the obese mayneed up to 4 times the amount of vitamin D as a normal weightindividual.Other considerations:. Vitamin D use by a healthy body is about 7,000 IU/day; the RDI iscurrently 400 IU/day. Many experts recommend increasing the vitamin DRDI from 400 to 2,000 IU/day.. Sufficient levels of vitamin D are crucial for calcium absorption.Without sufficient vitamin D, the body cannot absorb calcium, thismakes calcium supplements useless and leads to osteoporosis.. It's impossible to obtain enough vitamin D from diet alone andmultivitamins do not contain adequate vitamin D. Sunlight exposure isthe only reliable way for the body to generate vitamin D. Whenadequate sunlight is not available, an individual vitamin Dsupplement is required.. Prenatal vitamins do not contain adequate vitamin D for optimumfetal development.. Chronic vitamin D deficiency cannot be reversed overnight: it takesmonths of high dose vitamin D supplementation and sunlight exposureto rebuild the body's bones and nervous system.. The best time to produce vitamin D from sun exposure during the dayis between the hours of 10-3, the time most people are indoors, andthe very hours that people are advised to avoid the sun.. Adequate vitamin D cannot be generated by casual sun exposure ofthe face and arms; it requires that 80% of the body be exposed for atleast 15-20 minutes to generate sufficient daily vitamin D.. Use of sunscreen/block of even SPF=8 cuts 95% of vitamin Dproduction.. Vitamin D cannot be produced by sun shining through glass.. Rates of vitamin D deficiency diseases rise with distance from theequator... The further you live from the equator, the longer exposure you needto the midday sun in order to generate vitamin D. Canada, the UK andmost U.S. states are far from the equator.. There is no possible vitamin D production from the sun duringwinter for those living above 41 degrees latitude north or south ofthe equator.. Daily vitamin D needs cannot be met from the sun during winter 37degrees from the equator.. Clouds, aerosols and thick ozone events reduce the duration ofvitamin D synthesis considerably, and can suppress vitamin Dsynthesis completely even at the equator.. Kidney disease or liver damage can impair the body's ability toactivate vitamin D for its use." Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008  Believe me, I am well aware of the effects of good humor on the immune system, plus the opposite of stressor effects on it, but I know that I'm not going to expose 80% of my body outside, hands down, no way. There will just have to be another way. Also, in recent yrs, I have literally developed an aversion for the sun, but not of the sunburn type, though I am fair skinned and burn easily, it's not that. I am extremely light sensitive, it feels like I'm going to pass out under the sun, even in very mild weather. There is this itch and burning that froms on all my body from sun exposure, and I don't quite know why, but it almost makes me sick. It is a puzzle for me. I'll opt for the supplement, if I test. Have you read Dr. Mercola's take on Vitamin D yet? Re: Re: B vitamins and "D" Concur with the capacity of the maker, . I would like to add. Two problems face us in terms of Vitmain D from sunlight:. While acknowledging that extremely short day lengths may be a problem during winter in very high latitudes, lack of Vitamin D from the sun stems from two factors, -we have modifed our lifestyle so much that we no longer go outside (e.g., we are on the computer instead of being in the garden). -we have modifed the environment so that it no longer so safe: Aussies felt the direct effects of this: at one point the O-zone hole extended up above about one-third of the lower part of the country. The Australian Authorities, part in response to this, and partly because of our English heritage (which required going outside and sunbaking until we looked like a prune by the age of 45), decided to launch a campaing "slip, slop, slap", whith is basicaly slip on appropriate clothes, slap on some sunscreen and slap on a hat. This campaign has been so effective that most people do it, every time they go out in the sun, because they are so freaked about skin cancer. This means that they rarely get enough sun to make Vitamin D, every though they spend so much time in the sun. The campaign has been too effective, and while protecting individuals from skin cancer one way, is likely to increase skin caner through Vitamin D deficiency. Why you can get Vitamin D via other means, the sun actually does more than that. It affects a whole heap of things, many of which we probably dont understand yet. On of the things it affects is our neurological responses, how happy we are. How happy we are in turn affects, our immune responses, digestion, metabolism and much to do how well we are. Want to improve your immunity, join a laugher club! lol, but...I am serious..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 friedman has made his published vitamin d paper easier for the average person to read www.goodhormonehealth.com Re: B vitamins and "D"Hi all,This is worth repeating....... BjThe below information is on the Brain Talk Communities - GlutenSensitivity Forum (I think it's fascinating info!). The person thatposted this info on that forum is a wealth of information on Vitamin Dsupplementation, and he posts many links for studies done about safehigh dose supplementation of Vitamin D. After reading his posts andquotes from the studies, I have absolutely no qualms about taking5,000iu/day! Although if I get half that much I think its progress.I always take my vit D with calcium, magnesium, zinc for bestbenefit. Since I take Armour sublingually I don't have to worryabout the four hour rule, but make sure it's four hours away fromwhen I take iron.You may find Zuleikaa's factsheet fascinating and interesting, too.http://forum.lowcarber.org/showpost.php?p=6684892 & postcount=1524Vitamin D FactsVitamin D deficiency is implicated in over 80 diseases and has beenproven to prevent or remit 28 kinds of cancers. Vitamin D is apowerful steroidal hormone that tells the body how to work andcontrols a wide variety of cellular functions, not just calciumregulation and bone growth.If it hurts to press firmly on the breastbone, you might have chronicvitamin D deficiency.Other signs of vitamin D deficiency:. Arthritis, bone, muscle, and/or joint pain, lack of leg and othermuscle strength; lack of balance, rickets, osteomalacia,osteoporosis, need for joint replacement. Susceptibility to sunburn, fragile skin that easily tears, crackeddry skin, eczema, psoriasis, rosacea. Tiredness, depression, Seasonal Effective Disorder (SAD),ChronicFatigue Syndrome (CFS). Diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, hyperparathyroidism,. Immune system and Auto immune diseases: Asthma, Lupus, TB, MS,Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Celiac, Crohn's, Parkinson's,rheumatoid arthritis, Fibromyalgia, chronic infections. PMS, heavy bleeding, fibroids, infertility, PCOS, lowtestosterone/estrogen. Any cancer, especially that of the skin, breast, ovaries, cervix,colon, prostate, lung, and lymphomas. Prenatal/child implications: gestational diabetes, preeclampsia,miscarriage, hypertension, low birth weight, birth defects, teeth andbone deformities, autism, asthma, Type I diabetes, learningdisabilitiesPer day: 2,000-50,000 IU vitamin D3, 1200-1800 mg calcium, and 600-900 mg magnesium. Always take calcium and magnesium with vitamin Dsupplements. Vitamin D will pull calcium from the bones if adequatecalcium is not ingested. Magnesium assists in calcium uptake.Required vitamin D dose depends on season, resident latitude, skintone, weight, age, dress or cultural mores as well as presence andseverity of D deficiency symptoms.Adequate vitamin D levels can prevent 80% of vitamin D deficiencyrelated diseases and cancers, 80% of breast cancers, and 50% ofprostate cancers.60 times more cancer deaths are attributed to vitamin D deficiencyfrom lack of sun exposure than to skin cancer deaths from too muchsun exposure. In fact, people with adequate vitamin D levels do notget skin cancer.Natural vitamin D3 is very safe!!!Natural vitamin D, cholecalciferol, is named D3; manmade vitamin D,ergocalciferol, is named D2.. Natural vitamin D, D3, has been tested at 20,000 IUs per day over a5 year period and found non toxic.. Cases of proven natural vitamin D toxicity have been the result ofindustrial accidents or accidental mega doses in excess of 1 MillionIUs per day over a prolonged period.. No incident of natural vitamin D toxicity has resulted in death.. Vitamin D levels can be easily tested via the is 25(OH)D bloodtest. When reading results ignore the lab ranges for normal as rangeswere established using a vitamin D deficient population. Use theseinstead:--Any reading below 50 nmol/L is deficient.--Any reading of 50-80 nmol/L is insufficient--80-250 nmol/L is optimal and preventive of cancers.--Individuals in the tropics have vitamin D levels from mid 100s-200nmol/L.. Vitamin D toxicity arises at a blood level of >250 nmol/L.Natural vitamin D3 is safe even for children, infants, and fetus!!! A2 year old was given 4 Million IUs of vitamin D over a 5 day periodresulting in vitamin D toxicity. His symptoms were diarrhea, stomachache, and high blood calcium. He was treated over a period of 3months to reduce his calcium and fully recovered with no negativeresults. Vitamin D is essential in the development of fetal bone,brain, and nervous systems, and prevents birth defects andmiscarriages. Breast fed infants, especially, should be given liquidvitamin D supplements. Experts recommend pregnant and lactating womentake 4,000 IUs of D per day, and children up to 60 pounds be given1,000-2,000 IUs of D per day, or enough vitamin D in each case toachieve blood levels above 60 ng/ml.. Adults born in winter or spring have higher rates of schizophrenia,bipolar disorder, and depression.. Children born June-August are seven times more likely to havelearning disabilities, mental idiotation, low Apgar scores, low birthweight, and dyslexia than those born in cooler months.. Prior to 1985 infants and children in Finland, Norway and Swedenwere given 2,000-4,000 IUs a day of D3. Those countries then had thelowest rates of juvenile diabetes, and developmental, and childhoodillness of industrialized nations. These children, now adults, havethe lowest rates of cancer compared to those who were notsupplemented.. 27 sickly children ages ranging from 2-12 were given 9,000 IUs aday of vitamin D3 for six weeks one winter; they stopped getting sick.Implications for People of Color:. People with darker skin need up to 20 times as much exposure tosunlight as fair-skinned people to generate the same amount ofvitamin D.. Blacks generally are 10 times more vitamin D deficient than whites.. More than 80% of Black women and almost 50% of white women aredeficient upon delivery.. 92% of Black infants and 62% of white infants are born vitamin Ddeficient. Blacks have nearly 50%percent higher rate of birth defects thanwhites, Hispanics 30% higher.. Young Black women are 24 times more vitamin D deficient than youngwhite women. Of those tested, almost 50% had vitamin D levels <15ng/ml.. 87% of Black adolescents tested have vitamin D deficiency withvitamin D levels below <30 ng/mg. Blacks have lower survival rates for all types of cancer all otherfactors being equal.Other impacted populations:. People with very pale skin that won't tan, and those of NorthernEuropean heritage can not generate adequate vitamin D levels from thesun before burning.. People of orthodox religions or those having cultural mores thatlimit the amount of skin that is exposed.. The elderly; the ability to make vitamin D decreases with age.. Apartment dwellers, office workers, shut-ins and those in nursinghomes.. The obese; vitamin D is captured in fat and therefore the obese mayneed up to 4 times the amount of vitamin D as a normal weightindividual.Other considerations:. Vitamin D use by a healthy body is about 7,000 IU/day; the RDI iscurrently 400 IU/day. Many experts recommend increasing the vitamin DRDI from 400 to 2,000 IU/day.. Sufficient levels of vitamin D are crucial for calcium absorption.Without sufficient vitamin D, the body cannot absorb calcium, thismakes calcium supplements useless and leads to osteoporosis.. It's impossible to obtain enough vitamin D from diet alone andmultivitamins do not contain adequate vitamin D. Sunlight exposure isthe only reliable way for the body to generate vitamin D. Whenadequate sunlight is not available, an individual vitamin Dsupplement is required.. Prenatal vitamins do not contain adequate vitamin D for optimumfetal development.. Chronic vitamin D deficiency cannot be reversed overnight: it takesmonths of high dose vitamin D supplementation and sunlight exposureto rebuild the body's bones and nervous system.. The best time to produce vitamin D from sun exposure during the dayis between the hours of 10-3, the time most people are indoors, andthe very hours that people are advised to avoid the sun.. Adequate vitamin D cannot be generated by casual sun exposure ofthe face and arms; it requires that 80% of the body be exposed for atleast 15-20 minutes to generate sufficient daily vitamin D.. Use of sunscreen/block of even SPF=8 cuts 95% of vitamin Dproduction.. Vitamin D cannot be produced by sun shining through glass.. Rates of vitamin D deficiency diseases rise with distance from theequator.. The further you live from the equator, the longer exposure you needto the midday sun in order to generate vitamin D. Canada, the UK andmost U.S. states are far from the equator.. There is no possible vitamin D production from the sun duringwinter for those living above 41 degrees latitude north or south ofthe equator.. Daily vitamin D needs cannot be met from the sun during winter 37degrees from the equator.. Clouds, aerosols and thick ozone events reduce the duration ofvitamin D synthesis considerably, and can suppress vitamin Dsynthesis completely even at the equator.. Kidney disease or liver damage can impair the body's ability toactivate vitamin D for its use." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi all, I am back. I was missing due to thyroid related problems. Will fill you in later on. Wearing sun screen does not allow vitamin D to be absorbed by the body. Harmful rays that are blocked while wearing sun screen also block the absorption of vitamin D. According to Dr. Oz, only a forearm needs to be exposed to the ray for 10-15 minutes to get vitamin D. Olive and dark people's skin contain high amount of sun screen pigment which makes tanning, burning and vitamin D absorption difficult. I have olive skin, live in a sunny state, do not use sun screen, am in the sun more than 10-15 minutes daily and have low levels of vitamin D. Two endos recommended taking 1000 mg of vitamin D every other day. Cod liver oil is the best source of vitamin D if you can stomach taking it. friedman has made his published vitamin d paper easier for the average person to read www.goodhormonehealth.com Re: Re: B vitamins and "D" >. Adequate vitamin D cannot be generated by casual sun exposure of the face and arms; it requires that 80% of the body be exposed for at least 15-20 minutes to generate sufficient daily vitamin D. I truly challenge this statement by whoever originally said it. It is the retinas, also, that absorb the sun's rays to produce vitamin D. The sun's rays "bounce" all over the place, while outside, producing a magnified effect on our skin and through our eyes. Dr. Mercola is a big proponent of Vitamin D and also believes the thing about between the hrs of 10 and 3. No way am I walking outside mostly naked, even though I do wear shorts and sleeveless tops in the warm weather. I think that we were made much better than that, and I don't think that the Maker made any mistakes with us or our environment when he made us, so I do think that the cool weather-equator thing is a little more than a little exaggerated by whoever the writer was of some of this material. However, I do believe that vitamin D should be taken in much much higher amts than that tiny little bit of 400 ius. Thousands likely. I'm assuming that the writer gathered this info from many many opinions, right? There are many and varying. I like to see the stuff that's done in studies under very careful control and documented, when it comes to these claims. It is a serious thing to tell the public that they can't be VERY harmed with millions of units of Vitamin D, because we don't really know whether those non-repercussions were true or not, at this point. Holy cow. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I take 1000 of d a day Re: Re: B vitamins and "D">. Adequate vitamin D cannot be generated by casual sun exposure ofthe face and arms; it requires that 80% of the body be exposed for atleast 15-20 minutes to generate sufficient daily vitamin D.I truly challenge this statement by whoever originally said it. It is the retinas, also, that absorb the sun's rays to produce vitamin D. The sun's rays "bounce" all over the place, while outside, producing a magnified effect on our skin and through our eyes. Dr. Mercola is a big proponent of Vitamin D and also believes the thing about between the hrs of 10 and 3. No way am I walking outside mostly naked, even though I do wear shorts and sleeveless tops in the warm weather. I think that we were made much better than that, and I don't think that the Maker made any mistakes with us or our environment when he made us, so I do think that the cool weather-equator thing is a little more than a little exaggerated by whoever the writer was of some of this material. However, I do believe that vitamin D should be taken in much much higher amts than that tiny little bit of 400 ius. Thousands likely. I'm assuming that the writer gathered this info from many many opinions, right? There are many and varying. I like to see the stuff that's done in studies under very careful control and documented, when it comes to these claims. It is a serious thing to tell the public that they can't be VERY harmed with millions of units of Vitamin D, because we don't really know whether those non-repercussions were true or not, at this point. Holy cow.**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 But the cod liver oil has a "blocking" effect beCAUSE the A is combined with the D. I'm thinking this was the article that pointed this out, or was that the one by a compounding pharmacist? Aaaaaaaaaaa, can't remember now, lol. Re: Re: B vitamins and "D" Hi all,I am back. I was missing due to thyroid related problems. Will fill you in later on. Wearing sun screen does not allow vitamin D to be absorbed by the body. Harmful rays that are blocked while wearing sun screen also block the absorption of vitamin D. According to Dr. Oz, only a forearm needs to be exposed to the ray for 10-15 minutes to get vitamin D. Olive and dark people's skin contain high amount of sun screen pigment which makes tanning, burning and vitamin D absorption difficult.I have olive skin, live in a sunny state, do not use sun screen, am in the sun more than 10-15 minutes daily and have low levels of vitamin D. Two endos recommended taking 1000 mg of vitamin D every other day. Cod liver oil is the best source of vitamin D if you can stomach taking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Great article . Guess it means that we don't really know what's going on in there, except on a person to person basis. That is, if you can a doctor to run any tests to find out. Six of one and half a dozen of the other, huh. That's the way I'm interpreting this article. I simply read somewhere, within the last few wks or so, that these two cancel each other our, IF they're taken together, and I must not have bookmarked it cause I can't find it! Re: B vitamins and " D " > I've been studying Vit D for many months now. I've also been studying > the importance of Vit A. and have come to the conclusion that taking > high doses of one can create an imbalance of the other with subsequent > health consequences. > > Here is an article that kind of brings it all together and summarized > what I've been finding to be true, both in my research and also in my > personal experience, having had toxicity symptoms with relatively low > doses of Vit D, far lower than everyone seems to be advocating. I've > run into other people experiencing this same problem. > > It dispels some myths about both of the vitamins. > > http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/vitamina-osteo.html#appendix2 > > > > >> >> Hi and Carol, >> >> Could you point out the so-called blocking that Vitamin A and D >> have? Assuming you are inferring A blocks D's absorption. >> >> There is no evidence of an association between beta-carotene intake, >> especially from fruits and vegetables, and increased risk of >> osteoporosis. Current evidence points to a possible association with >> vitamin A as retinol only and that is if retinol is taken in doses >> three times the daily recommendation. That would be 3,000 mcg >> (10,000 IU) or more per day as retinol equivalent. >> >> Sorry, I just don't buy it or maybe I don't get what you mean. At >> least one scientific study would be appreciated. >> >> Bj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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