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--- Re: safe tinctures for the eye

Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 05:19:39 -0800 (PST)

To: Garnet

The original mix for NAC was just in water. It kept for a

while in the

water and there still was powder on the bottom of the

bottle. Since

then, I have found out that the stuff stinks itself. Did

not smell it

before. Will try it in DMSO and CS to see if it works any

better. I

don't use a lot to add to the drops so do you have a feeling

as to what

would be a good concentration of DMSO/CS to use to make my

concentrate

or tincture?

*/Garnet /* wrote:

If you know a compounding pharmacist that would be a

great person

to consult with on formulations. With regard to

preservatives and

adjusting pH to physiologic, and the osmolarity too,

which can make

it burn either way, too much or too little. Don't know

what they would

charge or if you can find one that is holistic. In

Austin there are

a bunch of more alternative or at least aware of

nutrition type

pharmacists who compound and consult. I have seen one

as a nutritional

consultant when I went to a local holistic doc, he

referred me. But

the pharmacist was not really all that up to speed on

herbs and other

remedies, not that informative about diet either, but

then he only

charged $35 an hour, so I guess I did not expect that

much from him.

He is now the owner of our small town pharmacy that he

bought

last year and is a compounding pharmacist.

DMSO should help dissolve substances that don't

dissolve well in water.

For preservatives I would have thought nothing would

grow in the CS. But

you say it starts to smell bad. Is it cloudy? Is there

any percipitate

on the bottom of the container? Could the mixture be

reacting and

forming other compounds? If there is DMSO in it is it

releasing dimethyl

sulfide and producing an garlic or sulfur odor, rotten

egg odor as in

hydrogen sulfide?

Just some thoughts . . . I am not a chemist or

pharmacist, unfortunately

my background is mainly physiology, and pharmaceutical

agents, how they

work in the body.

Good luck, it sounds interesting.

Janet

WILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:

> Yes, this is for cataracts. The Vitamin C does seem

to disolve in

water

> (or in EIS) but I was looking for any way to pull

anything else

out of

> the powder. The NAC is a different story. Used water

to try and pull

> it out and after a while, even in the frig, the

solution starts

to smell

> pretty bad. That is why I was looking for a way to

make a

concentrate

> out of it that using an eye safe product that would

not spoil.

Thought

> you might have an idea. As to ph in the eye, you can

use a meter if

> needed and you want a balanced, center of the scale

ph which can be

> adjusted with buffered solution or adding more

Vitamin C. The

DMSO in

> the solution is not a problem. I have been using the

Vit-C drops

for a

> while now. No telling if it is helping either me or

the dogs but I

> haven't seen cataracts get any worse in any of the

old dogs. Other

> option is to go to one of those compounding pharmacy

people and have

> them make them mix.

>

>

>

> */Garnet /* wrote:

>

> Colloidal Silver would be safe and I know that .0.03 ppm

> is suppose to keep fresh water sterile. That comes up

> to a few teaspoons per gallon if memory serves.

>

> Vit C if you use ascorbic acid will acidify the solution

> and that makes it unfriendly to bacteria. Like when you

> can tomatoes, they are so acid all you have to do is

a water

> bath canner unlike say beans that are not so have to be

> canned in a pressure canner.

>

> You can check the final pH of your solution as one

indicator

> of need. Not sure where to cut it off, but also as

you increase

> acidity it is going to burn your eyes.

>

> I use 10% DMSO in my eyes, diluted with CS, for

styes and for

> flu prevention when out in crowds in flu season,

Goes in my

> eyes, ears, nose and throat since viruses enter

through the

> mucous membranes, some say ears.

>

> Are you going to do the stuff with glutathione that

was discussed

> on the Silver List some time ago? For cataracts?

>

> Cars, yeah, I know that drill, I drive a 1989

Suburban, would

> not trade it for a new one!!

>

> Janet / Garnet

>

> WILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:

> > Hi Garnet,

> >

> > Got some more questions.

> >

> > I am interested in making tinctures that won't

spoil and are safe

> (when

> > diluted) for use in the eye. Thus no alcohol and

vinegars but

> possibly

> > DMSO.

> >

> > Want to make tinctures for Vitamin C and NAC

(N-acety-L-cystieine).

> > Haven't had time to read the books yet. Been

fixing cars to keep

> them

> > running.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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