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--- Re: safe tinctures for the eye

Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:01:26 -0800 (PST)

To: Garnet

I will try making the base using 10% DMSO in CS.

Filter and use it as my stock to just add Vit-C liquid

to it if I can get the pure liquid. Otherwise, I will

make my own Vit-C out of pure granules.

--- Garnet wrote:

> I generally do not use more than 10% DMSO because it

> burns,

> just for a couple seconds. You might try mixing up

> small

> amount of DMSO and CS just to see what it feels

> like.

>

> The CS I start with is about 10 ppm. I make it with

> an

> SG6 and am relying on the settings to determine the

> ppm so I can not say precisely what the ppm is, but

> Silvergens are all set to make about 10 ppm in the

> position on the dial that I use.

>

> That should be more than enough to keep anything

> from

> growing.

>

> Janet

>

> WILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:

> > The original mix for NAC was just in water. It

> kept for a while in the

> > water and there still was powder on the bottom of

> the bottle. Since

> > then, I have found out that the stuff stinks

> itself. Did not smell it

> > before. Will try it in DMSO and CS to see if it

> works any better. I

> > don't use a lot to add to the drops so do you have

> a feeling as to what

> > would be a good concentration of DMSO/CS to use to

> make my concentrate

> > or tincture?

> >

> >

> >

> > */Garnet /* wrote:

> >

> > If you know a compounding pharmacist that

> would be a great person

> > to consult with on formulations. With regard

> to preservatives and

> > adjusting pH to physiologic, and the

> osmolarity too, which can make

> > it burn either way, too much or too little.

> Don't know what they would

> > charge or if you can find one that is

> holistic. In Austin there are

> > a bunch of more alternative or at least aware

> of nutrition type

> > pharmacists who compound and consult. I have

> seen one as a nutritional

> > consultant when I went to a local holistic

> doc, he referred me. But

> > the pharmacist was not really all that up to

> speed on herbs and other

> > remedies, not that informative about diet

> either, but then he only

> > charged $35 an hour, so I guess I did not

> expect that much from him.

> > He is now the owner of our small town pharmacy

> that he bought

> > last year and is a compounding pharmacist.

> >

> > DMSO should help dissolve substances that

> don't dissolve well in water.

> > For preservatives I would have thought nothing

> would grow in the CS. But

> > you say it starts to smell bad. Is it cloudy?

> Is there any percipitate

> > on the bottom of the container? Could the

> mixture be reacting and

> > forming other compounds? If there is DMSO in

> it is it releasing dimethyl

> > sulfide and producing an garlic or sulfur

> odor, rotten egg odor as in

> > hydrogen sulfide?

> >

> > Just some thoughts . . . I am not a chemist or

> pharmacist, unfortunately

> > my background is mainly physiology, and

> pharmaceutical agents, how they

> > work in the body.

> >

> > Good luck, it sounds interesting.

> >

> > Janet

> >

> > WILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:

> > > Yes, this is for cataracts. The Vitamin C

> does seem to disolve in

> > water

> > > (or in EIS) but I was looking for any way

> to pull anything else

> > out of

> > > the powder. The NAC is a different story.

> Used water to try and pull

> > > it out and after a while, even in the frig,

> the solution starts

> > to smell

> > > pretty bad. That is why I was looking for a

> way to make a

> > concentrate

> > > out of it that using an eye safe product

> that would not spoil.

> > Thought

> > > you might have an idea. As to ph in the

> eye, you can use a meter if

> > > needed and you want a balanced, center of

> the scale ph which can be

> > > adjusted with buffered solution or adding

> more Vitamin C. The

> > DMSO in

> > > the solution is not a problem. I have been

> using the Vit-C drops

> > for a

> > > while now. No telling if it is helping

> either me or the dogs but I

> > > haven't seen cataracts get any worse in any

> of the old dogs. Other

> > > option is to go to one of those compounding

> pharmacy people and have

> > > them make them mix.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > */Garnet /* wrote:

> > >

> > > Colloidal Silver would be safe and I know

> that .0.03 ppm

> > > is suppose to keep fresh water sterile.

> That comes up

> > > to a few teaspoons per gallon if memory

> serves.

> > >

> > > Vit C if you use ascorbic acid will acidify

> the solution

> > > and that makes it unfriendly to bacteria.

> Like when you

> > > can tomatoes, they are so acid all you have

> to do is a water

> > > bath canner unlike say beans that are not

> so have to be

> > > canned in a pressure canner.

> > >

> > > You can check the final pH of your solution

> as one indicator

> > > of need. Not sure where to cut it off, but

> also as you increase

> > > acidity it is going to burn your eyes.

> > >

> > > I use 10% DMSO in my eyes, diluted with CS,

> for styes and for

> > > flu prevention when out in crowds in flu

> season, Goes in my

> > > eyes, ears, nose and throat since viruses

> enter through the

> > > mucous membranes, some say ears.

> > >

> > > Are you going to do the stuff with

> glutathione that was discussed

> > > on the Silver List some time ago? For

> cataracts?

> > >

> > > Cars, yeah, I know that drill, I drive a

> 1989 Suburban, would

> > > not trade it for a new one!!

> > >

> > > Janet / Garnet

> > >

> > > WILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:

> > > > Hi Garnet,

> > > >

> > > > Got some more questions.

> > > >

> > > > I am interested in making tinctures that

> won't spoil and are safe

> > > (when

> > > > diluted) for use in the eye. Thus no

> alcohol and vinegars but

> > > possibly

> > > > DMSO.

> > > >

> > > > Want to make tinctures for Vitamin C and

> NAC (N-acety-L-cystieine).

> > > > Haven't had time to read the books yet.

> Been fixing cars to keep

> > > them

> > > > running.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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