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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:25:57 -0800 (PST)

To: Garnet

A continuation question renated to mixing NAC with DMSO.

When one does

this, should the capsule contents be disolved in pure DMSO

and then

diluted later or should it be disolved in a pre-diluted DMSO

mix? Just

wondering since the NAC is separating to flowing and bottom

powder in

the 10% DMSO mix I presently have it in.

*/WILLIAM GREENAMYER /* wrote:

Yes, many similar supplements are just precursors.

Some other antioxidants taut being similar to

glutathione when actually they only promote it's

formation at some low level.

NAC is N-acetyl cystieine (possibly some other

spellings like with MSM) and is available at places

like Vitamin World and many mail order pill places.

MSM and DMSO may in fact provide a pathway for the

NAC.

With Australian Shepherds, it could be that they lack

that certain chemical that promotes the manufacture of

glutathione. If that is the case, all dogs with that

chemical lacking potentionally could get cataracts.

I have a couple of mixes I am using on the dogs teeth.

One is a mix of Biotene mouthwash, Aloe Vera Juice

and EIS. The other is a mix of an oral rinse for dogs

mixed with DMSO, MSM, Aloe Vera juice and EIS. The

thing that works best on the gums when there is a

problem is Biotene Antiseptic Gel. The Biotene

products use reinforced oral enzymes (the same 4

enzymes presently in the mouth) to naturally kill

bacteria. Seems to do pretty good. Won't get rid of

pockets but started supplementing with Niacin which is

supposed to firm up the gums and get rid of pockets.

All kinds of stuff out there and there is so much to

read. Just can't fit it all in.

--- Garnet wrote:

>

>

> WILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:

> >>From what I have found, glutathione is actually a

> > product that is produced and not something that

> you

> > can actually get already made up.

>

> So when you are buying supplements that say

> Glutathione

> is it just a precursor that is converted in the

> body?

> I Goggled it and came up with many products. I took

> it

> for awhile when I was treating severe Candida

> Overgrowth.

>

> There are things

> > that may be similar but not the true and powerful

> > antioxidant.

>

> Similar as in other antioxidants or similar as in

> sold as Glutathione?

>

> All mammals with cataracts have very low

> > glutathione.

>

>

>

> >NAC is the highest producer of

> > glutathione. NAC is used in some eye drops for

> > cataracts.

>

> N-acetyl choline I presume.

>

> Other products are also used, including

> > MSM. Some promote the production of glutathione

> but

> > not as much as NAC.

>

> Drives the Glutathione pathway?

>

> Eye drops have been used for some

> > years in Europe and many years in Russia. These

> drops

> > have been known to totally reverse most cataracts.

>

> > Cataracts apparently runs in some or our Chihuahua

> > line and with the older dogs, inhibiting or

> reducing

> > the affects can mean a much better life for the

> dog.

>

> Juvenile cataracts is a problem in our Australian

> Shepherds.

> We screen puppies before 9 weeks and annually in

> breeding

> and show stock. These are genetic and different from

> latter

> in life cataracts. I wonder if the drops could help

> with

> those who do develop the juvenile type?

>

> > With some younger dogs, I am doing only one eye

> just

> > in case it causes a problem. The hope is that it

> will

> > aid in production not only in the one eye but

> also in

> > the other eye (similar to the way DMSO relieves

> pain

> > all over the body and not just where you put it).

>

> In my study of uveitis in horses there was not good

> circulation

> to the eye as far as systemic drugs, so I would

> think that

> what you put in one eye is not going to travel to

> the other

> eye. DMSO is a special case since it crosses

> membranes so

> effectively.

>

> Do you breed Chihuahuas? We used to have one, a long

> hair, that

> we showed but eventually gave to a little girl

> because my daughter

> became very allergic to her and most other dogs. The

> Aussies

> don't bother her since they have no dander and no

> coat oil that

> comes off on your skin. We loved our Chihuahua and

> all grieved

> when we had to place her, she was a great dog!

>

> > Glutathione is good for a lot of things, not just

> the

> > eye. the one fact remains is that all mammals

> with

> > cataracts have low levels of glutathione. You can

> > have low levels of glutathione and not have

> cataracts

> > but all people with cataracts have low

> glutathione.

> > That is one link in common with cataracts.

>

> Interesting!

>

> There are

> > some others (don't remember them right now) but

> that

> > is the one that stands out. I also put Bilberry

> in

> > the ground raw that I give to the dogs. I also

> use

> > these drops in one of my eyes and take the NAC in

> pill

> > form as well as taking Bilberry. Bilberry has

> been

> > known to reverse a couple types of cataracts (no

> > information on levels required and still looking

> for

> > more information).

>

> I used herbal Eyebright, and homeopathic for my

> horse.

> Was feeding him a large amount daily of the dried

> herb.

> And using other homeopathics and a bovine eye

> protein

> that was suppose to distract the body -- none of it

> worked. Uveitis is a little understood disorder even

> in humans and often goes undiagnosed. It can cause

> cataracts so is interesting. It just means an

> inflammation

> of the uvea, the eye. I had not come across Bilberry

> in my search for uveitis remedies, before he went

> completely

> blind.

>

> Most of my efforts have been with

> > respect to teeth and gums and I thing I have

> stopped

> > the progression of dental problems in our

> Chihuahuas.

> > A big part of that was switching to raw feeding

> which

> > helps keep the back teeth clean and firm up the

> front

> > incisors. A spray I have been mixing up has

> helped

> > with controlling tartar and there is a gel I use

> for

> > gum inflamation. No real antibiotics so I do not

> > affect the immune system or digestion.

>

> I feed raw bones and it does make a huge difference

> in

> keeping their teeth clean.

>

> What is in the tartar control spray and gel that you

> use?

> Prickly Ash bark is what my husband used when he had

> pockets and could not get to the dentist for

> treatment.

> Three month later when he did the pockets where less

> than half the size and he did not need the more

> invasive

> treatment. He used Ipsab, a Home Health Remedy, that

> had Prickly Ash bark and peppermint. There is also a

> tooth powder by the same name for brushing. Prickly

> Ash bark is a traditional tooth remedy in the Native

> American pharmacopeia.

>

> Janet

>

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Garnet wrote:

> >

> >

> >>Let me know how it goes. I am very interested

> >>in this eye treatment. Will you be using the

> >>glutathione mentioned in the original formula?

> >>

> >>Since DMSO is an antioxidant it might replace

> >>some of the glutathione. But I think I recall

> >>something about the eye using a lot of gluta-

> >>thione, could be getting this confused though.

> >>

> >>I had a horse with eye problems that I went

> >>through quite a learning curve with various

> >>eye remedies, herbal, homeopathic, pharmaceutical

> >>but none of them helped him. His was a generic

> >>inflammation of the eye that can be caused by

> >>many things. Some 14% of horses get it, and in

> >>some it progresses rapidly, partially in his

> >>case due to an adjuvant in the West Nile

> >>Vaccine, which as it turns out he did not need.

> >>Long sad story because I had to put him down

>

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