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I don't know if there is a general guideline, but several of the

practitioners I've worked with have recommended a 2 to 1 ratio (2 mag

to 1 calcium) which is the reverse of what used to be recommended.

From there, it is based on symptoms. In general the american diet

is quite high in calcium anyway, so I don't know if their

recommendations were specific to my lyme issues. I take between 800

to 1000 mgs of magnesium and only about 350 of calcium. When I am

under stress I need the higher amount or I have bad leg cramps and

will get constipated. I've been told that Lyme uses up a lot of

magnesium--but don't know what the mechanism of that is.

Mara

> What are the doses that are common in Lymes Mara? Just curious

> what range they are in, as I do realize it is individual.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Garnet

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> Mara Miles wrote:

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> >

> > Although I muscle test myself, I don't completely trust my

> ability in

> > this regard. If you don't have a good kinesiologist, here is a

> > general guideline. Mag. Citrate is absorbed much better than mag

> > oxide. That's what I usually take. Mag Glycinate usually is easier

> > on the bowels than other forms of Mag. For fibro I have read that

> > Mag Malate is often used. I have chronic lyme too and, it is my

> > understanding, that folks with lyme need much more magnesium. I have

> > found that to be true for myself. I dose to bowel tolerance and find

> > that both helps with the muscle cramping and regulates the bowels.

> > Mag oil is well absorbed and, if you don't mind the sticky feeling

> > and do it often enough, you may not need to take anything else.

> >

> > Mara

> >

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I just found out our water company started adding 100 ppm calcium carbonate to

our water (what the chemist told me over the phone, anyways). I don't know how

bio-available it is, but seems it would throw off the calcium/magnesium balance.

Ironically, dh just got a kidney stone for the first time this week. Now he's

suspicious of the water.

> > >

> > >

> > > Although I muscle test myself, I don't completely trust my

> > ability in

> > > this regard. If you don't have a good kinesiologist, here is a

> > > general guideline. Mag. Citrate is absorbed much better than mag

> > > oxide. That's what I usually take. Mag Glycinate usually is easier

> > > on the bowels than other forms of Mag. For fibro I have read that

> > > Mag Malate is often used. I have chronic lyme too and, it is my

> > > understanding, that folks with lyme need much more magnesium. I have

> > > found that to be true for myself. I dose to bowel tolerance and find

> > > that both helps with the muscle cramping and regulates the bowels.

> > > Mag oil is well absorbed and, if you don't mind the sticky feeling

> > > and do it often enough, you may not need to take anything else.

> > >

> > > Mara

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Can you tell us what area you live in, would like to ask the question of our

area water works company, if appropriate.

Thank you.

Cathie

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Subject: Re: Magnesium

I just found out our water company started adding 100 ppm calcium carbonate

to our water (what the chemist told me over the phone, anyways). I don't

know how bio-available it is, but seems it would throw off the

calcium/magnesium balance. Ironically, dh just got a kidney stone for the

first time this week. Now he's suspicious of the water.

> > >

> > >

> > > Although I muscle test myself, I don't completely trust my

> > ability in

> > > this regard. If you don't have a good kinesiologist, here is a

> > > general guideline. Mag. Citrate is absorbed much better than mag

> > > oxide. That's what I usually take. Mag Glycinate usually is easier

> > > on the bowels than other forms of Mag. For fibro I have read that

> > > Mag Malate is often used. I have chronic lyme too and, it is my

> > > understanding, that folks with lyme need much more magnesium. I have

> > > found that to be true for myself. I dose to bowel tolerance and find

> > > that both helps with the muscle cramping and regulates the bowels.

> > > Mag oil is well absorbed and, if you don't mind the sticky feeling

> > > and do it often enough, you may not need to take anything else.

> > >

> > > Mara

> > >

> >

> >

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That seems very odd that they would add calcium since most people who

have hard water spend

a lot of money on water softeners to take out the minerals which are

mostly Ca and Mg. Around here,

the Hill Country, Austin, TX area, water hardness is 40 ppm which is low

up to 100 ppm considered

high. Very soft water would have a hardness of ~3 ppm.

1 ppm = 1 mg per liter

100 ppm is very hard water and almost undrinkable by most people's

standards of taste.

I am not an expert in this issue so maybe I am missing something about

the additive being

calcium carbonate?

Still it sounds very odd to me, especially since minerals are not

thought to be absorbed efficiently

from water due to the form they are in, elemental rather than chelated

as in a supplement or in food.

Although there are some studies that show fewer heart attacks in areas

of hard water.

Garnet

haecklers wrote:

>

> I just found out our water company started adding 100 ppm calcium

> carbonate to our water (what the chemist told me over the phone,

> anyways). I don't know how bio-available it is, but seems it would

> throw off the calcium/magnesium balance. Ironically, dh just got a

> kidney stone for the first time this week. Now he's suspicious of the

> water.

>

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Although I muscle test myself, I don't completely trust my

> > > ability in

> > > > this regard. If you don't have a good kinesiologist, here is a

> > > > general guideline. Mag. Citrate is absorbed much better than mag

> > > > oxide. That's what I usually take. Mag Glycinate usually is easier

> > > > on the bowels than other forms of Mag. For fibro I have read that

> > > > Mag Malate is often used. I have chronic lyme too and, it is my

> > > > understanding, that folks with lyme need much more magnesium. I have

> > > > found that to be true for myself. I dose to bowel tolerance and find

> > > > that both helps with the muscle cramping and regulates the bowels.

> > > > Mag oil is well absorbed and, if you don't mind the sticky feeling

> > > > and do it often enough, you may not need to take anything else.

> > > >

> > > > Mara

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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