Question

[Guest guest]

Could you kindly explain the " dreaded water retention

problem. " I'm not sure what you mean.

Thank very much.

[Guest guest]

Yes, according to my experience the beginning of Synthroid can be a bit

stressing. Usually the side effects go away after a short period of

time. To me it didn't happen, I was like a nervous wreck, always

nervous, edgy and short of breath. I switched to a combo of T3 and T4

(synthroid gives you only the T4) and, in spite of my latest email, I

felt immediately relieved from the bad symptoms. A lot of people here

are on Armour and are perfectly happy with it. My suggestion is, if you

don't feel up to par in another couple of weeks, to speak to your endo

and try another medication. I felt lousy for one year being on

Synthroid because nobody told me there were other options I could have

tried...of course I didn't belong to this mailing list back then...

What are your lab values?

Hang on

Carla

Sabato, 21 feb 2004, alle 00:03 Europe/Rome, rpuffenbarger@... ha

scritto:

> Hi All,

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> I was wondering if anyone had any strange symptoms when they began on

> replacement therapy?  I've been on Synthroid for two weeks now. The

> first week, I walked around thinking I was havin an anxiety attack. 

> When that feeling passed, I began noticing some ascites to the tune of

> 10 lbs.  Does this go away or am I going to have a new side effect

> each week?

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> Raiye

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> *Note: Information is freely exchanged on this board based on patient

> experiences, and should not be considered a medical recommendation.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Carla, for the response. I'm going to hang in there with the Synthroid

for right now, I think, since at least the anxiety has left me if not the

ascites.

My TSH is 69, antithyroidglobin is 14, thyroid peroxidase is 53 and free T4 is

..52. I have to admit, I only know what the TSH and free T4 mean, if anyone

knows what those other numbers are, I'd love to be informed! I've got another 4

weeks before I see the doc and have more bloodwork and an opportunity to ask.

Anyway, thanks for all the informative stuff you all send out!

Raiye

[Guest guest]

100 mcg

In a message dated 2/22/2004 1:22:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kemalandsheila@... writes:

> I never had any side effects from any of the thyroid drugs.

> What dosage of Synthroid are you on? take care, sheila

[Guest guest]

Hi, Raiye -- and welcome, if you're new! Patients who are severely

hypothyroid -- as it appears you are with that high TSH -- should generally not

be given such a high dosage of replacement hormone to start with, but most

doctors don't know this. Many of us take a while to get used to having the

thyroid in our bodies again... what is happening is that your body is probably

putting out a huge amount of thyroid receptors that are greedily latching on to

any free hormone floating around in your body... which is causing

hyperthyroid-like symptoms you are having now. Your TSH will probably fall

dramatically and you may even become truly hyperthyroid soon, so be sure to

be tested again in a few weeks. This happened to me when I first started -- my

TSH was 72 and dropped down to .1 in a matter of a few weeks and I thought I

was going to have a heart attack. So if you continue to feel this way, you may

even want to cut back your dosage and build up to the 100 mcg that your doc

has prescribed you. Dr. Langer talks about this on Shomon's site

(link below), he even works with pharmacists to compound a liquid thyroid

replacement solution that can be given in very small dosages and increased

more easily. Keep us posted!

--

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/drlanger.htm

Solutions for People Who Can't Tolerate Thyroid Medications

According to Dr. Langer, another subset of people with profound thyroiditis

and hypothyroidism find that taking any amount of thyroid hormone creates

problems. These people will have palpitations, and extreme hyperthyroid-like

symptoms after taking even the smallest standard dosage of thyroid hormone

replacement medicine.

Not taking medicine is not a solution, because hypothyroidism ultimately

requires treatment, but many of these patients are in a catch-22 -- treat the

hypothyroidism and prevent long-term illness -- but suffer debilitating

symptoms and side effects due to their over-sensitivity to thyroid medications.

Dr. Langer's answer? He works with a reputable compounding pharmacist to

produce an aqueous solution of the thyroid medicine. Then, he has patients

start with a daily dose as small as one drop, which is 1/10th of a quarter of a

grain. He then has them go up in dosage one drop at a time. According to Dr.

Langer, " with most of these patients, it takes a much longer period of time, but

they can get to the right quantity of thyroid using the aqueous thyroid and can

eventually be transferred over to the tablets. "

> 100 mcg

>

> In a message dated 2/22/2004 1:22:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kemalandsheila@y... writes:

>

> > I never had any side effects from any of the thyroid drugs.

> > What dosage of Synthroid are you on? take care, sheila

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for your message. I had suspected this was the case, that my body was in

some sort of shock state from getting so much T4 at once when it wasn't used to

it. I'm not one to take any doctor's advice without questioning them thoroughly

and since I knew a little about Hashi's from my Gram, I did question this. Of

course, endo didn't think it was going to be an issue.

Incidentally, I received a call from the endo's office today. This is the dude

that didn't return my call for three days when I called about the anxiety. They

really gave me the third degree...as if I had done something wrong. BULLSHIT!

Anyway, I'll be seeing my primary doctor after this and just work really closely

with her to get the levels correct. We knew I had Hashi's before I even went to

the endo, she just wanted me to go cause the TSH was so high, I think it worried

her.

Thanks again for the info. Have a good one!

Raiye

[Guest guest]

I dont know if the "require" them but i know mine works better with one!

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Question

Do the HFA inhalers require a spacer?Thanks,Alana

[Guest guest]

I always use spacer, otherwise I can't get it in.

I carry one with me in my purse and the other one is with my meds.

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[Guest guest]

I have to use one, since I have such a low capacity of breathing in,

it helps get the meds in me. Have always had to use one.

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[Guest guest]

Alana I think my Pro Air works as good with or without the spacer. I use a spacer for the Flovent b/c I showed signs of thrush (without the actual white stuff) so they felt it would be beneficial for that. I dont usually carry it with me so when I have had to use my HFA inhaler Ive used it without the spacer. What I did notice, is that it takes a bit longer to actually feel the effect of the Pro Air than I felt with the old CFC style inhalers. For me it actually seems to be a positive change though b/c my peak flows respond better. I use alot less of the Pro Air than the old albuterol... when Hannah was bothering me I could go 6-8 hours on one dose (2 puffs) of the Pro-Air vs in February on the CFC based inhaler when I was having trouble I was using my inhaler every 2-3 hours without fail and without much change.

I hope this helps you..but I do think that with the HFA based inhalers being so new there is a learning curve on these too. I read somewhere that the technique is a bit different to get a better maximum flow of meds into the lungs. I wait a little longer in between puffs and having read that it takes just a bit longer to feel the effects I wait a little longer before deciding its not working effectively. I used to use my albuterol inhaler and do a peak flow reading in 15 minutes and then in a half hour. With the Pro Air I wait a half hour before doing my peak flow again and it has usually shown a definite response.Looking for spoilers and reviews on the new TV season? Get AOL's ultimate guide to fall TV.

[Guest guest]

I have to agree on this. I am on Provair and it works better in the

chamber I'm fightin thrush now YUCK, I think it's going to take

everyone time to learn to TRUST the new type of inhalers, no one

likes a change when something is working, but I can validate this.

The NEW inhalers work just as well. Let me use this for an example:

Thursday my peakflow hit an all time high of 575 right, AWESOME

reading, Well ole Miss Hanna comes through and at midnight last night

i dropped into the 100's I HONEST TO GOD through the Lord was calling

me home, that's when I started using all my inhalers, provair,

qvar80,Zoponex EVERY 2 hours all day long, I went from the mid 100

to now a 475. It's been a horrible struggle but I think my

concoction worked, not sure if it was correct but I'm here and I'm

alive and obviously breathing better. OH and I used Xanax to help

keep my HR down. I slept alot today which may have helped. I gotta

get off here and go to bed!

The new inhalers aren't as bad as we think, it just takes some

getting use to!

Terry

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> Alana I think my Pro Air works as good with or without the spacer.?

I use a spacer for the Flovent b/c I showed signs of thrush (without

the actual white stuff) so they felt it would be beneficial for

that.? I dont usually carry it with me so when I have had to use my

HFA inhaler Ive used it without the spacer.? What I did notice, is

that it takes a bit longer to actually feel the effect of the Pro Air

than I felt with the old CFC style inhalers.? For me it actually

seems to be a positive change though b/c my peak flows respond

better.? I use alot less of the Pro Air than the old albuterol...

when Hannah was bothering me I could go 6-8 hours on one dose (2

puffs) of the Pro-Air vs in February on the CFC based inhaler when I

was having trouble I was using my inhaler every 2-3 hours without

fail and without much change.

>

> I hope this helps you..but I do think that with the HFA based

inhalers being so new there is a learning curve on these too.? I read

somewhere that the technique is a bit different to get a better

maximum flow of meds into the lungs.? I wait a little longer in

between puffs and having read that it takes just a bit longer to feel

the effects I wait a little longer before deciding its not working

effectively.? I used to use my albuterol inhaler and do a peak flow

reading in 15 minutes and then in a half hour.? With the Pro Air I

wait a half hour before doing my peak flow again and it has usually

shown a definite response.

>

[Guest guest]

On one of the e-mails I received last week someone mentioned the fact that they were using Symbicort. Also it was mentioned that this person was taking ZOCOR for cholesterol. I understood by the e-mail that this person was in a yahoo group for ZOCOR.

I tried going on Yahoo and looking for such a group but I guess I either missed it or I was on the wrong page.

If someone could let me know how I could join a group on Cholesterol Lowering Medications such as ZOCOR I would greatly appreciate it.

I do get a lot of useful information on the asthma group and would like to educate myself more on some of the other things that I have been prescribed ----- specially ZOCOR.

Thanks you very much for you help.

Donna J.