Probiotics

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I was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what type of probiotics or

probiotic supplement they are using? My daughter has had bowel

troubles since birth, but mostly since 4 months old. Now she is 21

months and seems to be holding it, even when it is nearly diarrhea! I

have been giving my daughter Culturelle for about 10 days now along

with Natural Calm and Benefiber. But I am wondering if I should try

another probiotic supplement that has a combo of probiotics in it

rather than just the Lacto GG? I have been looking into probiotics and

wow, its overwhelming how many different types there are! All I knew

about them before now was what I had seen in the Activa commercials

My daughter doesn't like yogurt so we have to do some type of

supplement instead.

Thanks for any help!

Sandy

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We've tried numerous probiotics - the ones that I think are probably

the best are the ones with a variety of strains and at a high

concentration per dose, such as Kirkamn Super Pro Bio, Nature's Way

Primadophilus Optima, and Metagenics Ultra Bio (or something to that

effect - haven't used that one in a long time). Also, VSL#3, which we

have not tried, is one that lots of people with GI issues seem to

benefit greatly from.

These are all also generally the most expensive probiotics.

FWIW, I have begun dabbling in raw fermented vegetables. For about

$5.00, one can buy a pretty large head of organic cabbage and can make

at least one quart of fresh, fermented sauerkraut that is teeming with

LIVE, ACTIVE, all natural probiotic cultures *AND* a LOT of beneficial

nutrient from the cabbage itself. I'm not yet sure about getting DS

to eat it as we're just starting our second batch (the first batch was

too salty to eat!). But, even if I can get him to take cabbage juice

tonic mixed with regular juice, I expect it to be a great improvement.

(if I can get cabbage growing in my garden next year - I'll be making

this stuff for the price of a little sea salt!)

I have begun to believe that just supplementing with probiotic

capsules/tablets will NEVER result in proper colonization of the GI

tract. I've read somewhere (don't have time to look up again right

now, sorry!) that studies have shown that the stuff generally goes

right through and doesn't stick around in the gut. I believe (but

don't quote me on this) that Owens at the Trying Low Oxalates

list has commented in the past about the growing evidence of probiotic

supplements not actually colonizing as well.

Anyway, if your child can tolerate dairy, I'd highly recommend

thinking about making raw milk yogurt at home. If dairy doesn't work

out (it doesn't for us), I'd highly recommend thinking about fermented

veggies. One can also make dairy-free coconut milk yogurt at home -

which will be my next endeavor.

There's something to be said for taking in as much of these things

naturally as possible - in their proper, natural context (e.g., live

active cultures in the presence of the nutrients of the fermented

cabbage) - rather than taking in a form that has been isolated out of

it's natural context and processed.

Some HFS now sell fermented veggies (including fermented pickles,

kimchi, saurkraut, etc.) but they must be truly RAW and never exposed

to the canning process or other high heat and should not be

cooked/heated as this will kill the probiotics.

hth,

=)

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> I was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what type of probiotics or

> probiotic supplement they are using? My daughter has had bowel

> troubles since birth, but mostly since 4 months old. Now she is 21

> months and seems to be holding it, even when it is nearly diarrhea! I

> have been giving my daughter Culturelle for about 10 days now along

> with Natural Calm and Benefiber. But I am wondering if I should try

> another probiotic supplement that has a combo of probiotics in it

> rather than just the Lacto GG? I have been looking into probiotics and

> wow, its overwhelming how many different types there are! All I knew

> about them before now was what I had seen in the Activa commercials

> My daughter doesn't like yogurt so we have to do some type of

> supplement instead.

>

> Thanks for any help!

> Sandy

>

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How about just eating raw cabbage,like a salad or like a coleslaw but only use olive oil in it. they say that just eating raw cabbage is a good probiotic. marg I don't know how much benefit you get from steamed cabbage,do you?

Subject: Re: ProbioticsTo: miralax Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 4:37 PM

We've tried numerous probiotics - the ones that I think are probablythe best are the ones with a variety of strains and at a highconcentration per dose, such as Kirkamn Super Pro Bio, Nature's WayPrimadophilus Optima, and Metagenics Ultra Bio (or something to thateffect - haven't used that one in a long time). Also, VSL#3, which wehave not tried, is one that lots of people with GI issues seem tobenefit greatly from.These are all also generally the most expensive probiotics.FWIW, I have begun dabbling in raw fermented vegetables. For about$5.00, one can buy a pretty large head of organic cabbage and can makeat least one quart of fresh, fermented sauerkraut that is teeming withLIVE, ACTIVE, all natural probiotic cultures *AND* a LOT of beneficialnutrient from the cabbage itself. I'm not yet sure about getting DSto eat it as we're just starting our second batch (the first batch wastoo salty

to eat!). But, even if I can get him to take cabbage juicetonic mixed with regular juice, I expect it to be a great improvement.(if I can get cabbage growing in my garden next year - I'll be makingthis stuff for the price of a little sea salt!)I have begun to believe that just supplementing with probioticcapsules/tablets will NEVER result in proper colonization of the GItract. I've read somewhere (don't have time to look up again rightnow, sorry!) that studies have shown that the stuff generally goesright through and doesn't stick around in the gut. I believe (butdon't quote me on this) that Owens at the Trying Low Oxalateslist has commented in the past about the growing evidence of probioticsupplements not actually colonizing as well.Anyway, if your child can tolerate dairy, I'd highly recommendthinking about making raw milk yogurt at home. If dairy doesn't workout (it doesn't for

us), I'd highly recommend thinking about fermentedveggies. One can also make dairy-free coconut milk yogurt at home -which will be my next endeavor.There's something to be said for taking in as much of these thingsnaturally as possible - in their proper, natural context (e.g., liveactive cultures in the presence of the nutrients of the fermentedcabbage) - rather than taking in a form that has been isolated out ofit's natural context and processed.Some HFS now sell fermented veggies (including fermented pickles,kimchi, saurkraut, etc.) but they must be truly RAW and never exposedto the canning process or other high heat and should not becooked/heated as this will kill the probiotics.hth, =)>> I was wondering if

anyone would mind sharing what type of probiotics or > probiotic supplement they are using? My daughter has had bowel > troubles since birth, but mostly since 4 months old. Now she is 21 > months and seems to be holding it, even when it is nearly diarrhea! I > have been giving my daughter Culturelle for about 10 days now along > with Natural Calm and Benefiber. But I am wondering if I should try > another probiotic supplement that has a combo of probiotics in it > rather than just the Lacto GG? I have been looking into probiotics and > wow, its overwhelming how many different types there are! All I knew > about them before now was what I had seen in the Activa commercials > My daughter doesn't like yogurt so we have to do some type of > supplement instead.> > Thanks for any help!> Sandy>

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Thank you very much! I'm going to look into their probiotics. I appreciate the link too!

Re: Probiotics

Hi Sandy,we use www.kirkmanlabs. com They have a lot of information on their website.We use the pro-bio gold without inulin but we are thinking of switching to the chewable probiotic that they have.It sounds like you are on the right path for your daughter!-Angisdileo1989 wrote:

I was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what type of probiotics or probiotic supplement they are using? My daughter has had bowel troubles since birth, but mostly since 4 months old. Now she is 21 months and seems to be holding it, even when it is nearly diarrhea! I have been giving my daughter Culturelle for about 10 days now along with Natural Calm and Benefiber. But I am wondering if I should try another probiotic supplement that has a combo of probiotics in it rather than just the Lacto GG? I have been looking into probiotics and wow, its overwhelming how many different types there are! All I knew about them before now was what I had seen in the Activa commercials My daughter doesn't like yogurt so we have to do some type of supplement instead.Thanks for any help!Sandy

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Amazing, I had no idea about the veggies and probiotics! My daughter loves cooked veggies (my other daugther is another story...lets just say we call her the macaroni girl). I am not sure if she would eat them fermented, but I could give it a try. As for dairy, she loves milk but not yogurt.

Thanks alot for all the help and ideas!!

Sandy

Re: Probiotics

We've tried numerous probiotics - the ones that I think are probablythe best are the ones with a variety of strains and at a highconcentration per dose, such as Kirkamn Super Pro Bio, Nature's WayPrimadophilus Optima, and Metagenics Ultra Bio (or something to thateffect - haven't used that one in a long time). Also, VSL#3, which wehave not tried, is one that lots of people with GI issues seem tobenefit greatly from.These are all also generally the most expensive probiotics.FWIW, I have begun dabbling in raw fermented vegetables. For about$5.00, one can buy a pretty large head of organic cabbage and can makeat least one quart of fresh, fermented sauerkraut that is teeming withLIVE, ACTIVE, all natural probiotic cultures *AND* a LOT of beneficialnutrient from the cabbage itself. I'm not yet sure about getting DSto eat it as we're just starting our second batch (the first batch wastoo salty

to eat!). But, even if I can get him to take cabbage juicetonic mixed with regular juice, I expect it to be a great improvement.(if I can get cabbage growing in my garden next year - I'll be makingthis stuff for the price of a little sea salt!)I have begun to believe that just supplementing with probioticcapsules/tablets will NEVER result in proper colonization of the GItract. I've read somewhere (don't have time to look up again rightnow, sorry!) that studies have shown that the stuff generally goesright through and doesn't stick around in the gut. I believe (butdon't quote me on this) that Owens at the Trying Low Oxalateslist has commented in the past about the growing evidence of probioticsupplements not actually colonizing as well.Anyway, if your child can tolerate dairy, I'd highly recommendthinking about making raw milk yogurt at home. If dairy doesn't workout (it doesn't for

us), I'd highly recommend thinking about fermentedveggies. One can also make dairy-free coconut milk yogurt at home -which will be my next endeavor.There's something to be said for taking in as much of these thingsnaturally as possible - in their proper, natural context (e.g., liveactive cultures in the presence of the nutrients of the fermentedcabbage) - rather than taking in a form that has been isolated out ofit's natural context and processed.Some HFS now sell fermented veggies (including fermented pickles,kimchi, saurkraut, etc.) but they must be truly RAW and never exposedto the canning process or other high heat and should not becooked/heated as this will kill the probiotics.hth, =)>> I was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what type of probiotics or > probiotic supplement they are using? My daughter has had bowel > troubles since birth, but mostly since 4 months old. Now she is 21 > months and seems to be holding it, even when it is nearly diarrhea! I > have been giving my daughter Culturelle for about 10 days now along > with Natural Calm and Benefiber. But I am wondering if I should try > another probiotic supplement that has a combo of probiotics in it > rather than just the Lacto GG? I have been looking into probiotics and > wow, its overwhelming how many different types there are! All I knew > about them before now was what I had seen in the Activa commercials > My daughter doesn't like yogurt so we have to do some type of > supplement instead.> > Thanks for any help!>

Sandy>

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Thanks! I'll look into this too.

Sandy

probiotics

We use 1/4 teaspoon of Klaire Labs ProBiotic Complex which is 10 billion CFU's Multi species. We get it from a local health food store and it is a tasteless powder but does have to be refrigerated.

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The VSL#3 caused my son to have mild abdominal pain from bloating, but he is somewhat sensitive to bloating.

Deanna,Fort Worth, TexasMom to Cody age 10, Dx: EE, Food Allergies (elimination diet: rye, wheat, soy, and beef), Env. Allergies to mountain cedar and cats, allergic conjunctivitis, GBS (Guillian Barre Syndrome), now EBV-Mono (Epstein Barr Viurs and Mono).

Re: Probiotics

We've tried numerous probiotics - the ones that I think are probablythe best are the ones with a variety of strains and at a highconcentration per dose, such as Kirkamn Super Pro Bio, Nature's WayPrimadophilus Optima, and Metagenics Ultra Bio (or something to thateffect - haven't used that one in a long time). Also, VSL#3, which wehave not tried, is one that lots of people with GI issues seem tobenefit greatly from.These are all also generally the most expensive probiotics.FWIW, I have begun dabbling in raw fermented vegetables. For about$5.00, one can buy a pretty large head of organic cabbage and can makeat least one quart of fresh, fermented sauerkraut that is teeming withLIVE, ACTIVE, all natural probiotic cultures *AND* a LOT of beneficialnutrient from the cabbage itself. I'm not yet sure about getting DSto eat it as we're just starting our second batch (the first batch wastoo salty

to eat!). But, even if I can get him to take cabbage juicetonic mixed with regular juice, I expect it to be a great improvement.(if I can get cabbage growing in my garden next year - I'll be makingthis stuff for the price of a little sea salt!)I have begun to believe that just supplementing with probioticcapsules/tablets will NEVER result in proper colonization of the GItract. I've read somewhere (don't have time to look up again rightnow, sorry!) that studies have shown that the stuff generally goesright through and doesn't stick around in the gut. I believe (butdon't quote me on this) that Owens at the Trying Low Oxalateslist has commented in the past about the growing evidence of probioticsupplements not actually colonizing as well.Anyway, if your child can tolerate dairy, I'd highly recommendthinking about making raw milk yogurt at home. If dairy doesn't workout (it doesn't for

us), I'd highly recommend thinking about fermentedveggies. One can also make dairy-free coconut milk yogurt at home -which will be my next endeavor.There's something to be said for taking in as much of these thingsnaturally as possible - in their proper, natural context (e.g., liveactive cultures in the presence of the nutrients of the fermentedcabbage) - rather than taking in a form that has been isolated out ofit's natural context and processed.Some HFS now sell fermented veggies (including fermented pickles,kimchi, saurkraut, etc.) but they must be truly RAW and never exposedto the canning process or other high heat and should not becooked/heated as this will kill the probiotics.hth, =)>> I was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what type of probiotics or > probiotic supplement they are using? My daughter has had bowel > troubles since birth, but mostly since 4 months old. Now she is 21 > months and seems to be holding it, even when it is nearly diarrhea! I > have been giving my daughter Culturelle for about 10 days now along > with Natural Calm and Benefiber. But I am wondering if I should try > another probiotic supplement that has a combo of probiotics in it > rather than just the Lacto GG? I have been looking into probiotics and > wow, its overwhelming how many different types there are! All I knew > about them before now was what I had seen in the Activa commercials > My daughter doesn't like yogurt so we have to do some type of > supplement instead.> > Thanks for any help!>

Sandy>

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Miralax caused my dd severe bloating AFTER she was on it and still has a problem years later, I wonder if it is from that? Although I recently have taken Kirkmans chewable and I've been experiencing all kinds of gas and heartburn..............and never had a problem before? It makes me wonder if it's stirring things up.............Anyone?deanna gentry wrote: The VSL#3 caused my son to have mild abdominal pain from bloating, but he is

somewhat sensitive to bloating. Deanna,Fort Worth, TexasMom to Cody age 10, Dx: EE, Food Allergies (elimination diet: rye, wheat, soy, and beef), Env. Allergies to mountain cedar and cats, allergic conjunctivitis, GBS (Guillian Barre Syndrome), now EBV-Mono (Epstein Barr Viurs and Mono). Re: Probiotics We've tried numerous probiotics - the ones that I think are probablythe best are the ones with a variety of strains and at a highconcentration per dose, such as Kirkamn Super Pro Bio,

Nature's WayPrimadophilus Optima, and Metagenics Ultra Bio (or something to thateffect - haven't used that one in a long time). Also, VSL#3, which wehave not tried, is one that lots of people with GI issues seem tobenefit greatly from.These are all also generally the most expensive probiotics.FWIW, I have begun dabbling in raw fermented vegetables. For about$5.00, one can buy a pretty large head of organic cabbage and can makeat least one quart of fresh, fermented sauerkraut that is teeming withLIVE, ACTIVE, all natural probiotic cultures *AND* a LOT of beneficialnutrient from the cabbage itself. I'm not yet sure about getting DSto eat it as we're just starting our second batch (the first batch wastoo salty to eat!). But, even if I can get him to take cabbage juicetonic mixed with regular juice, I expect it to be a great improvement.(if I can get cabbage growing in my garden next year - I'll be makingthis

stuff for the price of a little sea salt!)I have begun to believe that just supplementing with probioticcapsules/tablets will NEVER result in proper colonization of the GItract. I've read somewhere (don't have time to look up again rightnow, sorry!) that studies have shown that the stuff generally goesright through and doesn't stick around in the gut. I believe (butdon't quote me on this) that Owens at the Trying Low Oxalateslist has commented in the past about the growing evidence of probioticsupplements not actually colonizing as well.Anyway, if your child can tolerate dairy, I'd highly recommendthinking about making raw milk yogurt at home. If dairy doesn't workout (it doesn't for us), I'd highly recommend thinking about fermentedveggies. One can also make dairy-free coconut milk yogurt at home -which will be my next endeavor.There's something to be said for taking in as much of these

thingsnaturally as possible - in their proper, natural context (e.g., liveactive cultures in the presence of the nutrients of the fermentedcabbage) - rather than taking in a form that has been isolated out ofit's natural context and processed.Some HFS now sell fermented veggies (including fermented pickles,kimchi, saurkraut, etc.) but they must be truly RAW and never exposedto the canning process or other high heat and should not becooked/heated as this will kill the probiotics.hth, =)>> I was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what type of probiotics or > probiotic supplement they are using? My daughter has had bowel > troubles since birth, but mostly since 4 months old. Now she is 21

> months and seems to be holding it, even when it is nearly diarrhea! I > have been giving my daughter Culturelle for about 10 days now along > with Natural Calm and Benefiber. But I am wondering if I should try > another probiotic supplement that has a combo of probiotics in it > rather than just the Lacto GG? I have been looking into probiotics and > wow, its overwhelming how many different types there are! All I knew > about them before now was what I had seen in the Activa commercials > My daughter doesn't like yogurt so we have to do some type of > supplement instead.> > Thanks for any help!> Sandy>

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Try the Align, Cody had NO PROBLEMS, and he is sensitive to almost all meds, I've come to realize. Deanna,Fort Worth, TexasMom to Cody age 10, Dx: EE, Food Allergies (elimination diet: rye, wheat, soy, and beef), Env. Allergies to mountain cedar and cats, allergic conjunctivitis, GBS (Guillian Barre Syndrome), now EBV-Mono (Epstein Barr Viurs and Mono).

Re: Probiotics

We've tried numerous probiotics - the ones that I think are probablythe best are the ones with a variety of strains and at a highconcentration per dose, such as Kirkamn Super Pro Bio, Nature's WayPrimadophilus Optima, and Metagenics Ultra Bio (or something to thateffect - haven't used that one in a long time). Also, VSL#3, which wehave not tried, is one that lots of people with GI issues seem tobenefit greatly from.These are all also generally the most expensive probiotics.FWIW, I have begun dabbling in raw fermented vegetables. For about$5.00, one can buy a pretty large head of organic cabbage and can makeat least one quart of fresh, fermented sauerkraut that is teeming withLIVE, ACTIVE, all natural probiotic cultures *AND* a LOT of beneficialnutrient from the cabbage itself. I'm not yet sure about getting DSto eat it as we're just starting our second batch (the first batch wastoo

salty to eat!). But, even if I can get him to take cabbage juicetonic mixed with regular juice, I expect it to be a great improvement.(if I can get cabbage growing in my garden next year - I'll be makingthis stuff for the price of a little sea salt!)I have begun to believe that just supplementing with probioticcapsules/tablets will NEVER result in proper colonization of the GItract. I've read somewhere (don't have time to look up again rightnow, sorry!) that studies have shown that the stuff generally goesright through and doesn't stick around in the gut. I believe (butdon't quote me on this) that Owens at the Trying Low Oxalateslist has commented in the past about the growing evidence of probioticsupplements not actually colonizing as well.Anyway, if your child can tolerate dairy, I'd highly recommendthinking about making raw milk yogurt at home. If dairy doesn't workout (it doesn't

for us), I'd highly recommend thinking about fermentedveggies. One can also make dairy-free coconut milk yogurt at home -which will be my next endeavor.There's something to be said for taking in as much of these thingsnaturally as possible - in their proper, natural context (e.g., liveactive cultures in the presence of the nutrients of the fermentedcabbage) - rather than taking in a form that has been isolated out ofit's natural context and processed.Some HFS now sell fermented veggies (including fermented pickles,kimchi, saurkraut, etc.) but they must be truly RAW and never exposedto the canning process or other high heat and should not becooked/heated as this will kill the probiotics.hth, =)>> I was wondering if anyone would mind sharing what type of probiotics or > probiotic supplement they are using? My daughter has had bowel > troubles since birth, but mostly since 4 months old. Now she is 21 > months and seems to be holding it, even when it is nearly diarrhea! I > have been giving my daughter Culturelle for about 10 days now along > with Natural Calm and Benefiber. But I am wondering if I should try > another probiotic supplement that has a combo of probiotics in it > rather than just the Lacto GG? I have been looking into probiotics and > wow, its overwhelming how many different types there are! All I knew > about them before now was what I had seen in the Activa commercials > My daughter doesn't like yogurt so we have to do some type of > supplement instead.> > Thanks for any help!>

Sandy>