RE: Detoxification and Chronic Degenerative Disease

[Guest guest]

I would like to point out that PWME must approach any detox very carefully.

It’s not that we don’t need it, but a hair too strong or fast can release

too many toxins at once into the system and overwhelm our impaired excretory

processes. In fact, it can easily cause relapse, so a light touch and

awareness is needed. An expert practitioner who understands this is

essential, to monitor carefully and ensure a slow and steady process. The

kind of diet this practitioner recommends is far too hard for many PWME to

deal with at a gut level, and the gut must undergo considerable healing to

tolerate it, if ever. There is considerable controversy about her dietary

recommendations, see Sally Fallon’s work for another view. In fact there are

about a zillion “healing diets” out there, all with their proponents.

I’d also like to challenge her view that a “healing inflammation’ is

needed…for virtually all chronic degenerative diseases, inflammation is the

key destroyer of tissues and normal physiological processes, it flies in the

face of good sense to increase inflammation thus increasing its destructive

impact. For healthy people, it is true that inflammation is a healing

mechanism, but in these diseases it runs amok instead. It is the

over-activity of the immune system that really causes degeneration, not

underactivity – it needs taming, not stimulating. IMHO with respect, Aylwin

xox

[Guest guest]

Hi , well, it’s not only about colon crud, but the chemical toxins that

are locked inside of fat and organs, many detoxes are designed to “pull”

these out of their relatively safe hiding places and recirculate them for

excretion. This I think, is a major cause of ME relapse because it repoisons

the body by increasing circulating levels of these toxins. This can happen

in sudden major weight loss as well. So any attempts to eliminate them must

be done VERY slowly and carefully.

And also attempts to get rid of mercury by having surgery to remove the

offending teeth can also go horribly wrong. For one thing, many PWME are

simply too ill and fragile to undergo the surgical process itself. And in

the long run they often find that the materials in the replacement false

teeth can be just as poisonous <sigh>. It is also extremely expensive to get

a dentist who is experienced in doing this relatively safely (ie not release

whacks of mercury down the throat in the process).

So there are many aspects to so-called detox and they are all fraught with

danger. Aylwin xox

[Guest guest]

Aluminium, and other metals have been found in brains and other

organs on autopsies. There is plenty of information which links these

metals with chronic modern day illnesses and diseases.

Concerning detox, there is no quick fix. From my own research, the

safest is to raise glutathione over a period of months, to encourage

own's body mechanism to detox. Taking NAC and ALA are not advises,

because of reactions, and also, because, it raises glutathione for a

short period of time. These are using in hospital settings for

poisoning or people who are very ill, or the elderly before performing

surgery, or injecting contrasting dye, or any other toxic compounds.

A few people I know personally, have taken months and years to

detox, gently, slowly, along with supps and vits. They are/have doing

this and finding improvement in their general help. The improvement

is very slow, but sustainable.

Kooky

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> I totally agree here!! There is way more damage done often times in

> doing these " cleanses " on the market or from diets like the lemon

> cleanse that seems to be going around...one of the best ways of

> putting it all in perspective was from a doc on a talk show who said

> that if there was all this " build up " inside us to " cleanse " out, why

> hasnt ANY of it been seen in surgeries or in colonoscopies??? Very

> good point! I think its something you need to be carefull with even

> in a healthy person, which we are not, and you need a good

> practitioner to monitor the whole process.