RE: reaction to albuterol/asthma in 2 yo

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Hi Alia- I see lots of kids and am currently working with a youngster who has been severely traumatized by lots of medical intervention and responds well to Aconite. Consider this if it fits.

Lots of probiotics and castor oil to abdomen and chest.

How was her routine as an infant? Consider adrenal support via organotherapy, Ribes Nigrum Gemmo, also Viburnum and/or Immunogen may be helpful (with doses adjusted for body weight).

N.D.

N.field, RI

401*597*0477

To: Sent: Monday, December 8, 2008 2:16:43 PMSubject: reaction to albuterol/asthma in 2 yo

Hi Everyone,This is about my 2.5 year old daughter who i am way less adept at treating than anyone else. But i'm pretty concerned. She spent this past whole weekend in the hospital with pneumonia which was complicated by asthma. Without oxygen, her sats were in the low to mid 80's, so she had to be on oxygen for 48 hours. Since friday she's been having regular albuterol nebulizer treatments, a steriod, and an antibiotic. She has never had any conventional medication until now. The experience in the hospital was awful - she reacts so strongly to the albuterol that she can't control herself, is shaking, and is beside herself emotionally. She had to have 2 blooddraws and an IV, which was very traumatic. My normally very agreeable child would not allow any interventions without a major fight. At one point, she just couldn't take anymore and she wouldn't let anyone near her, she was

hysterical. I have watched her dramatically change in the past few days to a completely different child. She is now withdrawn, but also hysterical a lot. She throws tantrums that are not her normal tantrums, she sounds like an animal. She doesnt even let me near her much of the time and pulls away. She doesnt even look the same in her eyes. I called her pediatrician who said to put her in time out or ignore her, which i hung up on. I am wondering if this is just a reaction to the traumatic experience of being in the hospital, or a reaction to all the medication which her body is not used to, or a combination of both. The reaction to albuterol is dramatic, so i have come to despise putting it in her body. But i guess she needs it for another week or so, QID, as we're not in the clear yet. She has a history of recurrent ear infections since birth and also asthma that presents as nighttime coughing.

She was breastfed for nine months, and did not have any of the majors (soy, wheat, corn, etc) until 2 years, and still has not had dairy. (Her dad and I both have a sensitivity to dairy). After the nine months, I made her the formula in Dr. Thom's book with carrot juice as its base. I have not yet had her tested for food allergies. She's not immunized. Her ND has her on Ivy calm for the asthma, she's been having craniosacral for recurrent OM, and she takes fish oil regularly. Her pediatricians do not recognize food as an insult in general, aside the type I reactions, which she doesnt have. They also don't think 2 year olds should have many allergies to foods since they are so young. They want to put her on singulair or another daily med to prevent the asthma because we could be in for a very long haul. This makes me very nervous. Does anyone have any experience with young children

being in the hospital and their reactions, and also 2 year olds on this type of medication? Also, any experience with the daily prevention of asthma for someone this young? She's too young for a daily inhaler, so they are recommending a chewable pill for her. This conventional medicine makes me very nervous. My apologies for the length of this. I would greatly appreciate any input.Thank you,Alia Elias, N.D., LAc.Newburyport, MA

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Hi

Alia

Sorry

for the long delay in response, but I am just reading this thread now.

Hopefully the trauma and stress reaction has been relieved with homeopathy by

now and she is feeling calmer.

I

have treated many very young children with asthma. Have you tried UNDA?

They work remarkably well, and you should easily be able to dramatically reduce

her inhalers and wean her off them permanently. Look at 5, 14, 32, 35, and

220 to start. Most parents notice improvement within a few days.

Also, if it fits, a high dose of hp tuberculinum can turn asthma around very

quickly.

The

recurrent OM points to some type of chronic inflammation – likely a food

sensitivity. Wheat, gluten, egg are all good possibilities.

How

is she doing now?

Loreen

Dawson, ND

Sechelt,

BC

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Leah

Hollon

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:05 PM

To:

Subject: Re: reaction to albuterol/asthma in 2 yo

Alia,

I am curious

about her reaction to the albuterol. The reason being is that albuterol

has sulfate in it which many asthma patients are sensitive or allergic to.

A had a patient of 3 yo that was put on albuterol by his MD and

kept having strange side effects and craving grapes. The grapes and

albuterol both had sulfite/sulfate. I shared with mom my thoughts and she

then shared them with her pediatrician. The pediatrician later stated

that if the little boy had taken another dose, then he most likely would have

died due to the sulfate. I share this with you in case she is having a

reaction to the sulfate. The doctors may want to try another asthma drug.

I am not a drug pusher but I don't know the degree of her sxs so they may

be looking for an alternative. I believe her reactions could be from the

drugs and the trauma.

Do the basics

with her: probiotics, castor oil, routine, eliminating food allergens. As

we know asthma is related to GI and adrenal so support her with easily

digestible foods and the routine will support her body/adrenals. She is

trying to do fight or flight so the cortisol is probably high. The

hospital is one of the worst places to have a routine of sleep because they are

constantly waking her up and turning on the light. My sense is her

barriers are weak and now weakened more. She is trying to protect herself

due to the tantrums and outbursts. She is trying to protect herself- she

is scared. So any flower essence or music or color will be helpful for

her. It sounds like she needs a remedy. Look at carbo veg because

it has the lung and GI aspect and is about reviving the soul and spirit.

I have seen it work beautifully in asthma when the will and spirit have

split. It is the great reviver. I wish you both the very best.

Leah Hollon,

MPH, ND

Elixia Wellness

Group

NCNM Resident

Portland, OR

97202

To:

Sent: Monday, December 8, 2008 11:16:43 AM

Subject: reaction to albuterol/asthma in 2 yo

Hi Everyone,

This is about my 2.5 year old daughter who i am way less adept at

treating than anyone else. But i'm pretty concerned. She spent

this past whole weekend in the hospital with pneumonia which was

complicated by asthma. Without oxygen, her sats were in the low to

mid 80's, so she had to be on oxygen for 48 hours. Since friday

she's been having regular albuterol nebulizer treatments, a steriod, and

an antibiotic. She has never had any conventional medication until

now. The experience in the hospital was awful - she reacts so

strongly to the albuterol that she can't control herself, is shaking, and

is beside herself emotionally. She had to have 2 blooddraws and an

IV, which was very traumatic. My normally very agreeable child

would not allow any interventions without a major fight. At one

point, she just couldn't take anymore and she wouldn't let anyone near her,

she was hysterical. I have watched her dramatically change in the

past few days to a completely different child. She is now

withdrawn, but also hysterical a lot. She throws tantrums that are

not her normal tantrums, she sounds like an animal. She doesnt even

let me near her much of the time and pulls away. She doesnt even look the

same in her eyes. I called her pediatrician who said to put her in time

out or ignore her, which i hung up on. I am wondering if this is

just a reaction to the traumatic experience of being in the hospital, or

a reaction to all the medication which her body is not used to, or a

combination of both. The reaction to albuterol is dramatic,

so i have come to despise putting it in her body. But i guess she

needs it for another week or so, QID, as we're not in the clear yet.

She has a history of recurrent ear infections since birth and also asthma

that presents as nighttime coughing. She was breastfed for nine

months, and did not have any of the majors (soy, wheat, corn, etc) until

2 years, and still has not had dairy. (Her dad and I both have a

sensitivity to dairy). After the nine months, I made her the

formula in Dr. Thom's book with carrot juice as its base. I have

not yet had her tested for food allergies. She's not immunized.

Her ND has her on Ivy calm for the asthma, she's been having craniosacral

for recurrent OM, and she takes fish oil regularly.

Her pediatricians do not recognize food as an insult in general, aside

the type I reactions, which she doesnt have. They also don't think

2 year olds should have many allergies to foods since they are so

young. They want to put her on singulair or another daily med

to prevent the asthma because we could be in for a very long haul.

This makes me very nervous.

Does anyone have any experience with young children being in the hospital

and their reactions, and also 2 year olds on this type of

medication? Also, any experience with the daily prevention of

asthma for someone this young? She's too young for a daily inhaler,

so they are recommending a chewable pill for her. This conventional

medicine makes me very nervous.

My apologies for the length of this. I would greatly appreciate any

input.

Thank you,

Alia Elias, N.D., LAc.

Newburyport, MA