visual withholding method

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Here's a suggestion: take some jelly beans or something of the sort, tell him that everyday your body makes this much poop (throw in three) then say, the next day three more are made, etc. Then say if you only let out this many ( take out 1) and so on, then they can see how over time they aren't letting out as much as the body is making..................the end result BIG POOPS....................let them know that it's to their benefit to let out as much as possible because the body is always making more................at the end of 7 days they are are still full if they don't go regularly...................say it's important you go when the urge is there...............otherwise it goes into a pile up................we need to concentrate on keeping it empty not full......................I know it's hard but it somewhat helps them understand using

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HTH

Jeanie

From: deanna gentry <dkg116yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Withholding thoughts!!To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:24 PM

Cody has had the motility/nerve cell testing, his colon has been stretched out so far that until he is extremely full, then he cannot feel anything. The test was referred to as the "balloon test". We (my husband and I) believe it started when he was being potty trained, he didn't want to Stop playing and go to the bathroom, we were always catching him holding it. Then that would cause constipation, then it hurt, then he would hold it more so then he would be constipated, etc...this continued for years, now he is stretched out. It may or may not be reversible, due to his age. Right now were are using the benefiber 3 times daily and the mineral oil 1 spoon daily (at bedtime only). He is going a lot about every other day (if he makes it 2 full days and still has not gone that night I give him 2 spoons). I am going to continue using this for six months (if there are no compications from the meds), then slowly take him

off. Deanna,Fort Worth, TexasMom to Cody age 10, Dx: EE (2/08), Guilliam Barre Syndrome(3/08) , Epstein Barr Virus-Mono(6/ 08), Environmental Allergies (mountain cedar & cats)(3/08), Eczema (since birth).

From: Jennie <mykidshisgift@ yahoo.com>To: miralax@yahoogroups .comSent: Sunday, November 2, 2008 8:43:49 AMSubject: Withholding thoughts!!

I wanted to bring this subject up due to I really feel that withholding diagnoses in many is wrong. Im sure there are those that do this, but I feel it is just about impossible to hold though if the muscle and nerves are working correctly. The body just wouldnt allow holding to long in nature. Example is during sleep, a child couldnt conciensly hold in sleep, infact we are so relaxed that during sleep state there couldnt be concience holding. Most of my sons stool movements are during sleep or first immediate waking! Stool pressure on the intestinal walls stimulates the muscle contractions! This is if the nerve cells are working! If the nerve cells are missing/damaged than this would appear as holding to some, but not the case. I just wonder with many being diagnosed with this withholding theory how many have had the motility/nerve cell testing? And then still diagnosed with withholding?

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