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--- Re: safe tinctures for the eye

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:34:00 -0800 (PST)

To: Garnet

>From what I have found, glutathione is actually a

product that is produced and not something that you

can actually get already made up. There are things

that may be similar but not the true and powerful

antioxidant. All mammals with cataracts have very low

glutathione. NAC is the highest producer of

glutathione. NAC is used in some eye drops for

cataracts. Other products are also used, including

MSM. Some promote the production of glutathione but

not as much as NAC. Eye drops have been used for some

years in Europe and many years in Russia. These drops

have been known to totally reverse most cataracts.

Cataracts apparently runs in some or our Chihuahua

line and with the older dogs, inhibiting or reducing

the affects can mean a much better life for the dog.

With some younger dogs, I am doing only one eye just

in case it causes a problem. The hope is that it will

aid in production not only in the one eye but also in

the other eye (similar to the way DMSO relieves pain

all over the body and not just where you put it).

Glutathione is good for a lot of things, not just the

eye. the one fact remains is that all mammals with

cataracts have low levels of glutathione. You can

have low levels of glutathione and not have cataracts

but all people with cataracts have low glutathione.

That is one link in common with cataracts. There are

some others (don't remember them right now) but that

is the one that stands out. I also put Bilberry in

the ground raw that I give to the dogs. I also use

these drops in one of my eyes and take the NAC in pill

form as well as taking Bilberry. Bilberry has been

known to reverse a couple types of cataracts (no

information on levels required and still looking for

more information). Most of my efforts have been with

respect to teeth and gums and I thing I have stopped

the progression of dental problems in our Chihuahuas.

A big part of that was switching to raw feeding which

helps keep the back teeth clean and firm up the front

incisors. A spray I have been mixing up has helped

with controlling tartar and there is a gel I use for

gum inflamation. No real antibiotics so I do not

affect the immune system or digestion.

--- Garnet wrote:

> Let me know how it goes. I am very interested

> in this eye treatment. Will you be using the

> glutathione mentioned in the original formula?

>

> Since DMSO is an antioxidant it might replace

> some of the glutathione. But I think I recall

> something about the eye using a lot of gluta-

> thione, could be getting this confused though.

>

> I had a horse with eye problems that I went

> through quite a learning curve with various

> eye remedies, herbal, homeopathic, pharmaceutical

> but none of them helped him. His was a generic

> inflammation of the eye that can be caused by

> many things. Some 14% of horses get it, and in

> some it progresses rapidly, partially in his

> case due to an adjuvant in the West Nile

> Vaccine, which as it turns out he did not need.

> Long sad story because I had to put him down

> when he went completely blind and he might have

> had many more years without that adjuvant over

> stimulating his immune system. In Equine Recurrent

> Uveitis (another way of saying we don't know what

> it is but it keeps happening, in cycles) the

> thought is that something starts the inflammation

> and the T Cells go crazy attacking the eye,

> resulting

> in cataracts, scar tissue, retinal degeneration --

> people get uveitis too from some of the same

> causes, migrating onchocerca filariads is one,

> and those are the larvae of midges, or no-seeums

> as we so fondly call them. Some horses are more

> sensitive, chestnuts I think are a color that is

> more likely to have allergies, and be sensitive.

>

> I have a great respect for eyes now, and learning

> more about taking care of them is a great thing

> that most people never think of. Thanks for sharing

> so much of what you are doing with me.

>

> Janet

>

> WILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:

> > I will try making the base using 10% DMSO in CS.

> > Filter and use it as my stock to just add Vit-C

> liquid

> > to it if I can get the pure liquid. Otherwise, I

> will

> > make my own Vit-C out of pure granules.

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Garnet wrote:

> >

> >

> >>I generally do not use more than 10% DMSO because

> it

> >>burns,

> >>just for a couple seconds. You might try mixing up

> >>small

> >>amount of DMSO and CS just to see what it feels

> >>like.

> >>

> >>The CS I start with is about 10 ppm. I make it

> with

> >>an

> >>SG6 and am relying on the settings to determine

> the

> >>ppm so I can not say precisely what the ppm is,

> but

> >>Silvergens are all set to make about 10 ppm in the

> >>position on the dial that I use.

> >>

> >>That should be more than enough to keep anything

> >>from

> >>growing.

> >>

> >>Janet

> >>

> >>WILLIAM GREENAMYER wrote:

> >>

> >>>The original mix for NAC was just in water. It

> >>

> >>kept for a while in the

> >>

> >>>water and there still was powder on the bottom of

> >>

> >>the bottle. Since

> >>

> >>>then, I have found out that the stuff stinks

> >>

> >>itself. Did not smell it

> >>

> >>>before. Will try it in DMSO and CS to see if it

> >>

> >>works any better. I

> >>

> >>>don't use a lot to add to the drops so do you

> have

> >>

> >>a feeling as to what

> >>

> >>>would be a good concentration of DMSO/CS to use

> to

> >>

> >>make my concentrate

> >>

> >>>or tincture?

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>*/Garnet /* wrote:

> >>>

> >>> If you know a compounding pharmacist that

> >>

> >>would be a great person

> >>

> >>> to consult with on formulations. With regard

> >>

> >>to preservatives and

> >>

> >>> adjusting pH to physiologic, and the

> >>

> >>osmolarity too, which can make

> >>

> >>> it burn either way, too much or too little.

> >>

> >>Don't know what they would

> >>

> >>> charge or if you can find one that is

> >>

> >>holistic. In Austin there are

> >>

> >>> a bunch of more alternative or at least aware

> >>

> >>of nutrition type

> >>

> >>> pharmacists who compound and consult. I have

> >>

> >>seen one as a nutritional

> >>

> >>> consultant when I went to a local holistic

> >>

> >>doc, he referred me. But

> >>

> >>> the pharmacist was not really all that up to

> >>

> >>speed on herbs and other

> >>

> >>> remedies, not that informative about diet

> >>

> >>either, but then he only

> >>

> >>> charged $35 an hour, so I guess I did not

> >>

> >>expect that much from him.

> >>

> >>> He is now the owner of our small town

> pharmacy

> >>

> >>that he bought

> >>

> >>> last year and is a compounding pharmacist.

> >>>

> >>> DMSO should help dissolve substances that

> >>

> >>don't dissolve well in water.

> >>

> >>> For preservatives I would have thought

> nothing

> >>

> >>would grow in the CS. But

> >>

> >>> you say it starts to smell bad. Is it cloudy?

> >>

> >>Is there any percipitate

> >>

> >>> on the bottom of the container? Could the

> >>

> >>mixture be reacting and

> >>

> >>> forming other compounds? If there is DMSO in

> >>

> >>it is it releasing dimethyl

> >>

> >>> sulfide and producing an garlic or sulfur

> >>

> >>odor, rotten egg odor as in

> >>

> >>> hydrogen sulfide?

> >>>

> >>> Just some thoughts . . . I am not a chemist

> or

> >>

> >>pharmacist, unfortunately

> >>

> >>> my background is mainly physiology, and

> >>

> >>pharmaceutical agents, how they

> >>

> >>> work in the body.

>

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